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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115979</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pamphlet I wish I had for my friends:  &quot;The Mormon Tradition of Humanist Feminism&quot;  : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pamphlet I wish I had for my friends:  &#8220;The Mormon Tradition of Humanist Feminism&#8221;  : )</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AARON B   &lt;br /&gt;SEX in heaven...yes, emphasize to the ladies that&lt;br /&gt;If you are really good, and get to the celestial kingdom, you get to be a plural wife!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AARON B   <br />SEX in heaven&#8230;yes, emphasize to the ladies that<br />If you are really good, and get to the celestial kingdom, you get to be a plural wife!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron, regarding your point #3:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you really think that the Church has been de-emphasizing its theological differences in order to get along with evangelicals?  What have we done, really, besides increase the font for Jesus&#039;s name on our name tags?  I&#039;m being facetious (who, &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;?), but I guess I haven&#039;t really noticed in what way we have been toning down the deep doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess there are the public interviews with the Prophet, but I&#039;m not sure those amount to doctrinal retractions or anything.... and as for not knowing where we&#039;re going theologically, what&#039;s new about that?  Our church has been a crazy ride since day one!  10 years ago - 1994 - could anyone have foreseen the paths the Church would have taken, say, in Africa, or mass-production of temples, or the public persona of Pres. Hinckley, etc.?  That uncertainty is what makes the church so great.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m still thinking of another pamphlet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, regarding your point #3:</p>
<p>Do you really think that the Church has been de-emphasizing its theological differences in order to get along with evangelicals?  What have we done, really, besides increase the font for Jesus&#8217;s name on our name tags?  I&#8217;m being facetious (who, <i>me</i>?), but I guess I haven&#8217;t really noticed in what way we have been toning down the deep doctrine.</p>
<p>I guess there are the public interviews with the Prophet, but I&#8217;m not sure those amount to doctrinal retractions or anything&#8230;. and as for not knowing where we&#8217;re going theologically, what&#8217;s new about that?  Our church has been a crazy ride since day one!  10 years ago &#8211; 1994 &#8211; could anyone have foreseen the paths the Church would have taken, say, in Africa, or mass-production of temples, or the public persona of Pres. Hinckley, etc.?  That uncertainty is what makes the church so great.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still thinking of another pamphlet.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for pamphlet ideas...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1)  You can have SEX in heaven!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for pamphlet ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>(1)  You can have SEX in heaven!!!</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DON&#039;T YOU WANT TO BE A GOD TOO?&lt;br /&gt;We have hidden this message to the point that some of our less than diligent seminary students are surprised to learn we believe we have the potential to become Gods ourselves.  I know we get bashed for that belief but to me that&#039;s what is strongest about our doctrine.  WHAT&#039;S LIFE ABOUT?  IT&#039;S ABOUT BECOMING A GOD.    You would want there to be a rigid test for any candidates to God School!  Well this is the test!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I went to a Baptist Easter pageant this weekend.  Great show but what a weak message.   Be good so you can live with him again?   Why didn&#039;t He just let me live with him in the clouds in the first place?  What&#039;s the point of all this evil and sadness, if he had any real power he&#039;d stop it.&lt;br /&gt;I say we LET OUR FREAK FLAG FLY!&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;re not protestants, we&#039;re Gods in Embryo!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DON&#8217;T YOU WANT TO BE A GOD TOO?<br />We have hidden this message to the point that some of our less than diligent seminary students are surprised to learn we believe we have the potential to become Gods ourselves.  I know we get bashed for that belief but to me that&#8217;s what is strongest about our doctrine.  WHAT&#8217;S LIFE ABOUT?  IT&#8217;S ABOUT BECOMING A GOD.    You would want there to be a rigid test for any candidates to God School!  Well this is the test!</p>
<p>I went to a Baptist Easter pageant this weekend.  Great show but what a weak message.   Be good so you can live with him again?   Why didn&#8217;t He just let me live with him in the clouds in the first place?  What&#8217;s the point of all this evil and sadness, if he had any real power he&#8217;d stop it.<br />I say we LET OUR FREAK FLAG FLY!<br />We&#8217;re not protestants, we&#8217;re Gods in Embryo!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun topic!  I&#039;ll provide my missionary pamphlet compositions later.  For now, just a few thoughts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) There&#039;s no doubt that a major approach of missionary work is to stress our common Christianity with other sects.  I suspect that given  where the bulk of our converts are, statistically speaking, it makes sense to focus there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(2) Having said that, I have often felt as you do.  I find the more unique, quixotic LDS doctrines to be most interesting, useful, and certainly under-advertised part of the Mormon package.  Robinson&#039;s _How Wide the Divide_, much as I liked it, exemplifies in some ways the tendency to bend over backwards a little too much to convince the non-Mormon Christians that we&#039;re really just like them (almost).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(3)  There&#039;s the larger issue, though, of whether much of the renewed focus on &quot;Born-Again Christian-friendly&quot; Mormonism is actually a product of the slow but sure jettisoning of various funky LDS beliefs.  It is so in vogue nowadays to &quot;not know&quot; anything about God once being a man, etc., that it isn&#039;t clear to me where we&#039;re going theologically, or where we&#039;ll be in, say, 10 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun topic!  I&#8217;ll provide my missionary pamphlet compositions later.  For now, just a few thoughts:</p>
<p>(1) There&#8217;s no doubt that a major approach of missionary work is to stress our common Christianity with other sects.  I suspect that given  where the bulk of our converts are, statistically speaking, it makes sense to focus there.</p>
<p>(2) Having said that, I have often felt as you do.  I find the more unique, quixotic LDS doctrines to be most interesting, useful, and certainly under-advertised part of the Mormon package.  Robinson&#8217;s _How Wide the Divide_, much as I liked it, exemplifies in some ways the tendency to bend over backwards a little too much to convince the non-Mormon Christians that we&#8217;re really just like them (almost).  </p>
<p>(3)  There&#8217;s the larger issue, though, of whether much of the renewed focus on &#8220;Born-Again Christian-friendly&#8221; Mormonism is actually a product of the slow but sure jettisoning of various funky LDS beliefs.  It is so in vogue nowadays to &#8220;not know&#8221; anything about God once being a man, etc., that it isn&#8217;t clear to me where we&#8217;re going theologically, or where we&#8217;ll be in, say, 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve asks:&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Do you really think that the Church has been de-emphasizing its theological differences in order to get along with evangelicals?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think there is some evolution going on.  Is it an intentional movement to please evangelicals?  Well, that&#039;s probably putting it way too strong.  I think if you look at the resurgence of &quot;grace&quot; talk in LDS thought and discourse, the popularity of Stephen Robinson&#039;s various books, and everybody&#039;s (including Hinkley&#039;s) downplaying of our &quot;God was once a man&quot; talk, there&#039;s definitely movement taking place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does it all mean?  Are we &quot;toning down the deep doctrine&quot; (as you put it)?  Or are we reconsidering whether some of our &quot;deep doctrines&quot; are really &quot;doctrines&quot; at all?  To the extent the evolution I&#039;m seeing is real, does it represent a &quot;change in theology,&quot; or merely a &quot;change in emphasis&quot;?  Is LDS rapprochement with others in the Christian world a conscious strategy to make friends and score converts, or is it just an effect of our inevitable theological maturity (and regret that 19th Century Mormonism was so freewheeling)?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know.  Some of these questions are interesting to me.  Others are much ado about nothing, in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P.S.  No, I don&#039;t see Hinkley&#039;s television comments as &quot;doctrinal retractions,&quot; per se.  I think it is interesting, however, to ask what they might mean...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve asks:<br />&#8220;Do you really think that the Church has been de-emphasizing its theological differences in order to get along with evangelicals?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think there is some evolution going on.  Is it an intentional movement to please evangelicals?  Well, that&#8217;s probably putting it way too strong.  I think if you look at the resurgence of &#8220;grace&#8221; talk in LDS thought and discourse, the popularity of Stephen Robinson&#8217;s various books, and everybody&#8217;s (including Hinkley&#8217;s) downplaying of our &#8220;God was once a man&#8221; talk, there&#8217;s definitely movement taking place.</p>
<p>What does it all mean?  Are we &#8220;toning down the deep doctrine&#8221; (as you put it)?  Or are we reconsidering whether some of our &#8220;deep doctrines&#8221; are really &#8220;doctrines&#8221; at all?  To the extent the evolution I&#8217;m seeing is real, does it represent a &#8220;change in theology,&#8221; or merely a &#8220;change in emphasis&#8221;?  Is LDS rapprochement with others in the Christian world a conscious strategy to make friends and score converts, or is it just an effect of our inevitable theological maturity (and regret that 19th Century Mormonism was so freewheeling)?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Some of these questions are interesting to me.  Others are much ado about nothing, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
<p>P.S.  No, I don&#8217;t see Hinkley&#8217;s television comments as &#8220;doctrinal retractions,&#8221; per se.  I think it is interesting, however, to ask what they might mean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Prophet&#039;s T.V. declarations are particularly interesting.  Isn&#039;t the &lt;i&gt;60 Minutes&lt;/i&gt; interview a modern equivalent of say, the Wentworth Letter?  I mean, a T.V. interview from Joseph Smith would rank right behind the D&amp;C as authoritative...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prophet&#8217;s T.V. declarations are particularly interesting.  Isn&#8217;t the <i>60 Minutes</i> interview a modern equivalent of say, the Wentworth Letter?  I mean, a T.V. interview from Joseph Smith would rank right behind the D&#038;C as authoritative&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/missionary-pamphlets/#comment-115987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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