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	<title>Comments on: Mormon Networking</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yesterday Dave argued that the church should stay out of commerce.&quot;  Moi?  Either one of us missed something or else there&#039;s another Dave commenting here.  Could you point me back to the statement on commerce you&#039;re referring to?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I probably would argue that the Church should stay out of commerce, but I&#039;d like to see the statement before I adopt it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yesterday Dave argued that the church should stay out of commerce.&#8221;  Moi?  Either one of us missed something or else there&#8217;s another Dave commenting here.  Could you point me back to the statement on commerce you&#8217;re referring to?</p>
<p>I probably would argue that the Church should stay out of commerce, but I&#8217;d like to see the statement before I adopt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AB: Have you clicked on the link I have for you on BCC&#039;s main page?  It&#039;s a little unofficial mormon business organization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess I can&#039;t leave this topic alone, though, by saying that church members shouldn&#039;t do business with each other -- because fundamentally, I think we should.  In fact, church members &lt;i&gt;ought&lt;/i&gt; to be ideal business partners: honest, pleasant, etc.  We SHOULD enjoy working with each other, and ideally, it sounds like a great way to sustain each other and build up the church.  So where did we go wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, are the things I&#039;ve outlined really why mormons can&#039;t escape doing business with each other?  Or are there more insidious cultural reasons?  Perhaps others more steeped in UT/LDS culture can testify...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB: Have you clicked on the link I have for you on BCC&#8217;s main page?  It&#8217;s a little unofficial mormon business organization.</p>
<p>I guess I can&#8217;t leave this topic alone, though, by saying that church members shouldn&#8217;t do business with each other &#8212; because fundamentally, I think we should.  In fact, church members <i>ought</i> to be ideal business partners: honest, pleasant, etc.  We SHOULD enjoy working with each other, and ideally, it sounds like a great way to sustain each other and build up the church.  So where did we go wrong?</p>
<p>Also, are the things I&#8217;ve outlined really why mormons can&#8217;t escape doing business with each other?  Or are there more insidious cultural reasons?  Perhaps others more steeped in UT/LDS culture can testify&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lyle</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ann, it can indeed be illegal to have a hiring practice/who you do business with list that includes religion as a criterion. But that doesn&#039;t mean that the law making it illegal would pass constitutional muster. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew Parke:  Thanks!  My first BCC brownie point :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, it can indeed be illegal to have a hiring practice/who you do business with list that includes religion as a criterion. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that the law making it illegal would pass constitutional muster. </p>
<p>Matthew Parke:  Thanks!  My first BCC brownie point :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ann, you could never offend me.  Your Buckeye charms are too smooth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But as to your comment -- I agree that mixing business and friends is dumb/bad.  But don&#039;t you think that it&#039;s a shame?  I mean, I&#039;d like to work with mormons and talk our secret talk all day long, but I know that&#039;s a bad idea -- and that makes me feel like there&#039;s something wrong with our community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re just chalking it up to general human frailties, but I&#039;m thinking there&#039;s some other cultural defect out there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, you could never offend me.  Your Buckeye charms are too smooth.</p>
<p>But as to your comment &#8212; I agree that mixing business and friends is dumb/bad.  But don&#8217;t you think that it&#8217;s a shame?  I mean, I&#8217;d like to work with mormons and talk our secret talk all day long, but I know that&#8217;s a bad idea &#8212; and that makes me feel like there&#8217;s something wrong with our community.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just chalking it up to general human frailties, but I&#8217;m thinking there&#8217;s some other cultural defect out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave--apologies, I meant that you argued that the church should stay out of politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8211;apologies, I meant that you argued that the church should stay out of politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Kori</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally, people seem to think that doing business with other ward members is bad.  But, is networking bad as well?  Are there socially accepted rules out there about what is and what is not appropriate?  Should there be rules?  I moved into a new ward to attend law school.  There are several practicing attorneys in my ward.  I have not approached any of them for career advice for two reasons: first, I think it may be inappropriate; second, I think they may think it is inappropriate and get annoyed.  IÂ’ve found a decent clerk position on my own, but I wonder if I missed a good opportunity to network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, people seem to think that doing business with other ward members is bad.  But, is networking bad as well?  Are there socially accepted rules out there about what is and what is not appropriate?  Should there be rules?  I moved into a new ward to attend law school.  There are several practicing attorneys in my ward.  I have not approached any of them for career advice for two reasons: first, I think it may be inappropriate; second, I think they may think it is inappropriate and get annoyed.  IÂ’ve found a decent clerk position on my own, but I wonder if I missed a good opportunity to network.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh -- Ann, Nate, everybody -- sorry for the mistakes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh &#8212; Ann, Nate, everybody &#8212; sorry for the mistakes!</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ann--It&#039;s coming . . . as soon as I get off work late this evening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ann&#8211;It&#8217;s coming . . . as soon as I get off work late this evening.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you know the person is Mormon?  Do they go to your ward/stake?  Were they referred by a Mormon?  What if it&#039;s the choice between a less-active or ex-Mormon and a nevermo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion shouldn&#039;t enter into the decision.  If the person is a friend, I would be less likely to hire him/her.  If the person is a casual acquaintance, then religion is a non-issue.   Probably illegal to make it so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know the person is Mormon?  Do they go to your ward/stake?  Were they referred by a Mormon?  What if it&#8217;s the choice between a less-active or ex-Mormon and a nevermo.</p>
<p>Religion shouldn&#8217;t enter into the decision.  If the person is a friend, I would be less likely to hire him/her.  If the person is a casual acquaintance, then religion is a non-issue.   Probably illegal to make it so.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/03/26/mormon-networking/#comment-116076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Steve here.  It&#039;s hard enough already to get along with everybody at Church.  Getting into business with them, and then risking that things will turn sour, only increases the odds that ward camaraderie will be that much harder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember growing up that my mother would hire Church members for a variety of projects (painting the house, real estate agent, etc.).  Years later, she came to the conclusion that business relationships with ward members are problematic, often because they would expect special treatment, favors, etc., by virtue of their common religious affiliation.  That&#039;s just one person&#039;s experience, of course.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve -- I appreciate all the free publicity I can get, but why does your first comment refer everyone to the &quot;link for Aaron Brown&quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve here.  It&#8217;s hard enough already to get along with everybody at Church.  Getting into business with them, and then risking that things will turn sour, only increases the odds that ward camaraderie will be that much harder.</p>
<p>I remember growing up that my mother would hire Church members for a variety of projects (painting the house, real estate agent, etc.).  Years later, she came to the conclusion that business relationships with ward members are problematic, often because they would expect special treatment, favors, etc., by virtue of their common religious affiliation.  That&#8217;s just one person&#8217;s experience, of course.</p>
<p>Steve &#8212; I appreciate all the free publicity I can get, but why does your first comment refer everyone to the &#8220;link for Aaron Brown&#8221;?</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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