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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Young men and women rarely have serious health concerns, generally receive parental or other financial assistance, have been programmed to go on a mission since they could talk, and tend to exhibit the idealism of youth.  All these characteristics make it easier for the young to do missions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s also a target date, a commitment point: age 19 or 21.  Seniors never really face a commitment point which would serve to focus peer pressure and guilt projection onto seniors who don&#039;t go.  You just don&#039;t hear this in church: &quot;Oh, you&#039;re turning 65 . . . so when are you going on a mission?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lest I come across as too harsh, I will disclose that my parents served a &quot;local mission&quot; of the service as opposed to proselyting variety, and appeared to get a great deal of satisfaction and enjoyment from their service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young men and women rarely have serious health concerns, generally receive parental or other financial assistance, have been programmed to go on a mission since they could talk, and tend to exhibit the idealism of youth.  All these characteristics make it easier for the young to do missions.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a target date, a commitment point: age 19 or 21.  Seniors never really face a commitment point which would serve to focus peer pressure and guilt projection onto seniors who don&#8217;t go.  You just don&#8217;t hear this in church: &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re turning 65 . . . so when are you going on a mission?&#8221;</p>
<p>Lest I come across as too harsh, I will disclose that my parents served a &#8220;local mission&#8221; of the service as opposed to proselyting variety, and appeared to get a great deal of satisfaction and enjoyment from their service.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve E.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should ask my parents (mom, dad, if you&#039;re reading this..;.)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They just finished a local mission, and loved it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should ask my parents (mom, dad, if you&#8217;re reading this..;.)!</p>
<p>They just finished a local mission, and loved it.</p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think that if they pushed it a little harder more people would go.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How could they possibly push it any more? It&#039;s mentioned almost every conference, and we have that horrible (at least I think it&#039;s horrible) poster that shows grandparents with their grandkids and says, &quot;If you love them, leave them.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If people want to and can afford to go, then I definitely think they should go. It can be a spiritual time for couples and an opportunity to serve that perhaps they didn&#039;t have while they were raising kids and building a life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I&#039;m troubled by the pressure that seems to be put on the elderly in the Church to go. Some people just don&#039;t want to. They want to play with grandkids and enjoy their retirement, and I see nothing wrong with that. Many of these people (especially the women) have spent their whole lives focused on anything and everything except themselves thanks in part to the Church. They raise their kids, they perform Church callings, they attend the temple monthly, they participate in canning and other service assignments, etc. I know many women who fit this category and never, ever take a moment for themselves. Heaven forbid when they retire they actually do what *they* want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also think there&#039;s a tremendous amount of pressure to *love* your mission no matter what. My wife&#039;s grandparents went on a mission and I could just tell it wore them out and they didn&#039;t love it. They chose to go for the shortest possible time and it still wore them out. But of course when people ask, they have to tell everyone how much they love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think that if they pushed it a little harder more people would go.&#8221;</p>
<p>How could they possibly push it any more? It&#8217;s mentioned almost every conference, and we have that horrible (at least I think it&#8217;s horrible) poster that shows grandparents with their grandkids and says, &#8220;If you love them, leave them.&#8221;</p>
<p>If people want to and can afford to go, then I definitely think they should go. It can be a spiritual time for couples and an opportunity to serve that perhaps they didn&#8217;t have while they were raising kids and building a life.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m troubled by the pressure that seems to be put on the elderly in the Church to go. Some people just don&#8217;t want to. They want to play with grandkids and enjoy their retirement, and I see nothing wrong with that. Many of these people (especially the women) have spent their whole lives focused on anything and everything except themselves thanks in part to the Church. They raise their kids, they perform Church callings, they attend the temple monthly, they participate in canning and other service assignments, etc. I know many women who fit this category and never, ever take a moment for themselves. Heaven forbid when they retire they actually do what *they* want.</p>
<p>I also think there&#8217;s a tremendous amount of pressure to *love* your mission no matter what. My wife&#8217;s grandparents went on a mission and I could just tell it wore them out and they didn&#8217;t love it. They chose to go for the shortest possible time and it still wore them out. But of course when people ask, they have to tell everyone how much they love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaimi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[. . . (6) After watching that $800,000 IRA they put into tech stocks turn into an $8000 IRA, they just couldn&#039;t afford it anymore.  He&#039;s working the swing shift as a cashier at Home Depot now, just to make ends meet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . (6) After watching that $800,000 IRA they put into tech stocks turn into an $8000 IRA, they just couldn&#8217;t afford it anymore.  He&#8217;s working the swing shift as a cashier at Home Depot now, just to make ends meet.</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danithew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;.. I think I have that much influence into their decision-making processes. But we&#039;ll see. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Er, I meant to use the word &quot;insight&quot; there instead of influence.  Duh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>.. I think I have that much influence into their decision-making processes. But we&#8217;ll see. </i></p>
<p>Er, I meant to use the word &#8220;insight&#8221; there instead of influence.  Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118474</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As has been suggested several times, love for grandkids probably plays a huge factor.  My Mom used to talk about how as soon as she got her kids out of the house she and my Dad were going to serve a mission.  Now they have two lil&#039; grandsons and suddenly I don&#039;t hear either of my parents talking about going on a mission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m guessing when the grandsons are a little older and more subject to influence/example, my parents &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; consider doing the mission in order to have some grandparently influence on these future elders.  After being raised by them, I think I have that much influence into their decision-making processes.  But we&#039;ll see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One other odd rationale ... my Mom probably does genealogy for 8+ hours a day.  In her mind, that&#039;s serving a mission that&#039;s just as important as going off to some distant or not-so-distant place to work with the living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been suggested several times, love for grandkids probably plays a huge factor.  My Mom used to talk about how as soon as she got her kids out of the house she and my Dad were going to serve a mission.  Now they have two lil&#8217; grandsons and suddenly I don&#8217;t hear either of my parents talking about going on a mission.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing when the grandsons are a little older and more subject to influence/example, my parents <i>might</i> consider doing the mission in order to have some grandparently influence on these future elders.  After being raised by them, I think I have that much influence into their decision-making processes.  But we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>One other odd rationale &#8230; my Mom probably does genealogy for 8+ hours a day.  In her mind, that&#8217;s serving a mission that&#8217;s just as important as going off to some distant or not-so-distant place to work with the living.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug S--Well, every mission has its horror stories.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doug E--Thanks for sharing your experience.  I have to say I&#039;m jealous about driving the fork lift around, one of those juvenile fantasies I just haven&#039;t managed to make happen yet.  I&#039;ve been boating on the Fraser River near Maple Ridge--beautiful place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug S&#8211;Well, every mission has its horror stories.</p>
<p>Doug E&#8211;Thanks for sharing your experience.  I have to say I&#8217;m jealous about driving the fork lift around, one of those juvenile fantasies I just haven&#8217;t managed to make happen yet.  I&#8217;ve been boating on the Fraser River near Maple Ridge&#8211;beautiful place.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Going back to the point of potential senior missionaries just wanting time for themselves....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My parents have served 3 missions, one foreign temple, one visitors center, and one local.  I stayed with them on both of their away missions....I lived in Sweden with them for two months during a college summer, and then visited them several times in Kirtland.  I can tell you that my parents had the time of their life in both places.  Further, they were never particularly social while I was growing up.  Ward friendships were centered around callings, and they were pretty busy as we were growing up.  Now they have incredibly active social lives with all their returned missionary buddies from all their missions, and I&#039;m pretty sure that in the next year or two we&#039;ll be wishing them bon voyage again.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe we think that seniors just want to be left alone to rest, while really, they want to feel needed like they have their entire lives.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, seniors do have a certain amount of control over where they go--and can pick the amount of time.   One of their calls--to the temple--was orchestrated by a former temple president because my dad spoke a language they needed.  The local mission came about because of connections from the temple mission, and the third was just a luck of the draw--although they did choose to just go for a year on that one.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and seniors get t.v. on their missions....much to my mom&#039;s dismay!  :o)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to the point of potential senior missionaries just wanting time for themselves&#8230;.</p>
<p>My parents have served 3 missions, one foreign temple, one visitors center, and one local.  I stayed with them on both of their away missions&#8230;.I lived in Sweden with them for two months during a college summer, and then visited them several times in Kirtland.  I can tell you that my parents had the time of their life in both places.  Further, they were never particularly social while I was growing up.  Ward friendships were centered around callings, and they were pretty busy as we were growing up.  Now they have incredibly active social lives with all their returned missionary buddies from all their missions, and I&#8217;m pretty sure that in the next year or two we&#8217;ll be wishing them bon voyage again.  </p>
<p>Maybe we think that seniors just want to be left alone to rest, while really, they want to feel needed like they have their entire lives.  </p>
<p>Finally, seniors do have a certain amount of control over where they go&#8211;and can pick the amount of time.   One of their calls&#8211;to the temple&#8211;was orchestrated by a former temple president because my dad spoke a language they needed.  The local mission came about because of connections from the temple mission, and the third was just a luck of the draw&#8211;although they did choose to just go for a year on that one.  </p>
<p>Oh, and seniors get t.v. on their missions&#8230;.much to my mom&#8217;s dismay!  :o)</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/08/on-senior-missions/#comment-118477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I only know my own parents&#039; story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They lived in Belmont, MA, all during the 90s, and dealt with the harsh reality of building a temple there. As it was readied for dedication, my parents (each, separately) decided the time was right to move to Utah. After all that, they didn&#039;t even attend the dedication of the Boston Temple (which is IN Belmont).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think they didn&#039;t want to be temple workers, and that&#039;s the whole truth of their situation. They are incredibly active in their ward in SLC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only know my own parents&#8217; story.</p>
<p>They lived in Belmont, MA, all during the 90s, and dealt with the harsh reality of building a temple there. As it was readied for dedication, my parents (each, separately) decided the time was right to move to Utah. After all that, they didn&#8217;t even attend the dedication of the Boston Temple (which is IN Belmont).</p>
<p>I think they didn&#8217;t want to be temple workers, and that&#8217;s the whole truth of their situation. They are incredibly active in their ward in SLC.</p>
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		<title>By: Grasshopper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grasshopper]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Kaimi&#039;s (6) is a big reason. I&#039;ll add (7) There are some seniors willing to go, but unable due to health concerns and (8) some seniors are just plain crotchety and have a hard enough time interacting with their own family, let alone people they&#039;ve never met.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kaimi&#8217;s (6) is a big reason. I&#8217;ll add (7) There are some seniors willing to go, but unable due to health concerns and (8) some seniors are just plain crotchety and have a hard enough time interacting with their own family, let alone people they&#8217;ve never met.</p>
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