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		<title>By: Lowell Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowell Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this Sunstone Lite?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Sunstone Lite?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may appear that my post merely raises the same issues that John H&#039;s recent post raised, but I don&#039;t think so.  John H&#039;s post goes to the question of whether we interpret our spiritual experiences correctly.  In contrast, I&#039;m speaking to the issue of whether we can trust anyone to accurately represent &quot;the facts&quot; of their experiences to others, or to themselves ... never mind how they ultimately choose to interpret those experiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may appear that my post merely raises the same issues that John H&#8217;s recent post raised, but I don&#8217;t think so.  John H&#8217;s post goes to the question of whether we interpret our spiritual experiences correctly.  In contrast, I&#8217;m speaking to the issue of whether we can trust anyone to accurately represent &#8220;the facts&#8221; of their experiences to others, or to themselves &#8230; never mind how they ultimately choose to interpret those experiences.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Oman</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate Oman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. also may simply have been mistaken.  She may have been projecting her feelings onto others in her memory.  People sometimes simply remember things incorrectly...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. also may simply have been mistaken.  She may have been projecting her feelings onto others in her memory.  People sometimes simply remember things incorrectly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lowell -- please expound on what you mean by &quot;stuff like this.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowell &#8212; please expound on what you mean by &#8220;stuff like this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: Zig Q.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zig Q.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lowell, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like my mama always said, &quot;If you don&#039;t have anything nice to say...&quot; or &quot;If you don&#039;t have anything to contribute, then...&quot; or &quot;If you don&#039;t have a solution, keep your complaints to yourself&quot; etc. etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not to be peevish myself, but - why are you obviously reading all this, not to mention posting (which, in and of itself is fine and appreciated) if you aren&#039;t interested in what&#039;s being said?&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Sunstone-lite&quot; is cute, but in implying the pretentious elitism (my interpretation) of those discussing, aren&#039;t you automatically guilty of condescension/elitism yourself? Pride is such a tricky little thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowell, </p>
<p>Like my mama always said, &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have anything nice to say&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have anything to contribute, then&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have a solution, keep your complaints to yourself&#8221; etc. etc.</p>
<p>Not to be peevish myself, but &#8211; why are you obviously reading all this, not to mention posting (which, in and of itself is fine and appreciated) if you aren&#8217;t interested in what&#8217;s being said?<br />&#8220;Sunstone-lite&#8221; is cute, but in implying the pretentious elitism (my interpretation) of those discussing, aren&#8217;t you automatically guilty of condescension/elitism yourself? Pride is such a tricky little thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh!!! Yeah Bob!!!&lt;br /&gt;I want to see that movie.  It could seriously be the most irreverent fun I&#039;ve had since cheerio racing under the pews was banned at age five.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!!! Yeah Bob!!!<br />I want to see that movie.  It could seriously be the most irreverent fun I&#8217;ve had since cheerio racing under the pews was banned at age five.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Dave, am I a charlatan or a pious fraud?  :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nate, I&#039;m only &quot;slightly&quot; cynical?  Please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Dave, am I a charlatan or a pious fraud?  :)</p>
<p>Nate, I&#8217;m only &#8220;slightly&#8221; cynical?  Please.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowell Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for my peevish comment.  I just don&#039;t get the fascination with stuff like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my peevish comment.  I just don&#8217;t get the fascination with stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not sophisticated and European enough to call it Sunstone Lite.  Actually, we&#039;re just diet sunstone.  All of the pretension, none of the intelligence.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(This is our second literary analogy this week.  Just a few days ago, Kaimi likened us to the New York Post and Steve to Rupert Murdoch.  I personally won&#039;t rest until we&#039;re being compared to the Economist...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not sophisticated and European enough to call it Sunstone Lite.  Actually, we&#8217;re just diet sunstone.  All of the pretension, none of the intelligence.  </p>
<p>(This is our second literary analogy this week.  Just a few days ago, Kaimi likened us to the New York Post and Steve to Rupert Murdoch.  I personally won&#8217;t rest until we&#8217;re being compared to the Economist&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2004/09/24/embellishing-spiritual-experiences/#comment-66385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, memory is a tricky thing.  I just love those PBS specials about the mind and how it works and how our memories are shaped.  What&#039;s the show called with Alan Alda?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems we humans are totally unreliable creatures.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you post is very fair to Jenny, giving her the benefit of the doubt, but I also think that you should probably acknowledge the potential flaws in your own memories. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is of course natural to give more weight to your own memory of the situation than to Jenny&#039;s.  It is your memory after all.  Personally, I&#039;d be more inclined to believe you over her.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that doesn&#039;t necessarily make your memory of the situation the right one.  Calling Jenny&#039;s memory &quot;Totally and utterly false.&quot; gives more weight to your recollections than may be warranted, given the flawed nature of the human capacity to recall things correctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, memory is a tricky thing.  I just love those PBS specials about the mind and how it works and how our memories are shaped.  What&#8217;s the show called with Alan Alda?  </p>
<p>It seems we humans are totally unreliable creatures.  </p>
<p>I think you post is very fair to Jenny, giving her the benefit of the doubt, but I also think that you should probably acknowledge the potential flaws in your own memories. </p>
<p>It is of course natural to give more weight to your own memory of the situation than to Jenny&#8217;s.  It is your memory after all.  Personally, I&#8217;d be more inclined to believe you over her.  </p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make your memory of the situation the right one.  Calling Jenny&#8217;s memory &#8220;Totally and utterly false.&#8221; gives more weight to your recollections than may be warranted, given the flawed nature of the human capacity to recall things correctly.</p>
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