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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;She suggested that the women spend more time pursuing an MRS. degree at BYU.&quot;

&quot;...not the Hillary Clinton type.&#039;...  &#039;You know, women who don&#039;t care about their families.&#039;&quot;

I&#039;m an investigator so I don&#039;t know many LDS, but oh my garsh, are there really people who think this way in this day and age?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She suggested that the women spend more time pursuing an MRS. degree at BYU.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;not the Hillary Clinton type.&#8217;&#8230;  &#8216;You know, women who don&#8217;t care about their families.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an investigator so I don&#8217;t know many LDS, but oh my garsh, are there really people who think this way in this day and age?</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99544</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful post Karen.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post Karen.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99545</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a 26 Year Old Single Male, I want to thank you for this post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 26 Year Old Single Male, I want to thank you for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, hallelujah, Karen!

Tony, alas, there are still people who think this way, in and out of the Mormon church.  Fortunately, there is nothing in Mormon doctrine or scripture that requires or encourages these folk beliefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, hallelujah, Karen!</p>
<p>Tony, alas, there are still people who think this way, in and out of the Mormon church.  Fortunately, there is nothing in Mormon doctrine or scripture that requires or encourages these folk beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Caswell</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Caswell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Karen, what&#039;s so powerful about your post is that it can be applied to almost anyone in many circumstances. My wife and I have been married nearly three years, and your &quot;Stop Making Assumptions About Me&quot; line is very applicable to certain family members and/or members of the Church. Yes, surprise, surprise, we want to have kids. And yes, there&#039;s a way to do it without the honeymoon baby (though, for those who choose that way, great, it&#039;s just not for us).

I think it boils down to the fact that - for whatever reason - for some, it seems to feel easier to worry about someone else&#039;s life instead of their own. Great post, Karen, thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Karen, what&#8217;s so powerful about your post is that it can be applied to almost anyone in many circumstances. My wife and I have been married nearly three years, and your &#8220;Stop Making Assumptions About Me&#8221; line is very applicable to certain family members and/or members of the Church. Yes, surprise, surprise, we want to have kids. And yes, there&#8217;s a way to do it without the honeymoon baby (though, for those who choose that way, great, it&#8217;s just not for us).</p>
<p>I think it boils down to the fact that &#8211; for whatever reason &#8211; for some, it seems to feel easier to worry about someone else&#8217;s life instead of their own. Great post, Karen, thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Caswell</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Caswell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay! Kristine IS alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! Kristine IS alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony, yes there are still some people who think this way, but honestly, I don&#039;t think there are that many.  However, I really have noticed an increasing trend in comments of this sort.  (It&#039;s been years since I&#039;ve run across this, so the recent deluge was noticeable.)

I honestly think that in some ways we define ourselves in opposition to others.  As LDS people, we do focus on the blessings of family.  As a result, we seem to be stronger when we are fighting against others who do not value families.  As I tried to point out, I think this has led to the unfortunate habit of creating straw men (or in this case straw women) that are easy to attack, albeit not an accurate reflection of reality.  It&#039;s easy to uphold motherhood against women who care more about glamour than children...it&#039;s not as easy to address real issues:  financial difficulties, post-partum depression, cheating spouses, lack of time, and baby poop.  (Just go visit FMH for excellent humor and discussion.)  However, when we create and attack stereotypes, we&#039;re necessarily pulling in people who don&#039;t deserve an attack.  As always, pleas for faithfulness should be done with loving kindness and extreme thoughtfulness for audience.  We can expect no less of ourselves as Christians.

Incidentally, I&#039;d like at some point to have a discussion regarding non-LDS women professionals who have the same concerns about child rearing as we do.  We&#039;re not alone in our struggle for strong families, and I think that recognizing strength outside the church, rather than labeling perceived selfishness, would be wise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, yes there are still some people who think this way, but honestly, I don&#8217;t think there are that many.  However, I really have noticed an increasing trend in comments of this sort.  (It&#8217;s been years since I&#8217;ve run across this, so the recent deluge was noticeable.)</p>
<p>I honestly think that in some ways we define ourselves in opposition to others.  As LDS people, we do focus on the blessings of family.  As a result, we seem to be stronger when we are fighting against others who do not value families.  As I tried to point out, I think this has led to the unfortunate habit of creating straw men (or in this case straw women) that are easy to attack, albeit not an accurate reflection of reality.  It&#8217;s easy to uphold motherhood against women who care more about glamour than children&#8230;it&#8217;s not as easy to address real issues:  financial difficulties, post-partum depression, cheating spouses, lack of time, and baby poop.  (Just go visit FMH for excellent humor and discussion.)  However, when we create and attack stereotypes, we&#8217;re necessarily pulling in people who don&#8217;t deserve an attack.  As always, pleas for faithfulness should be done with loving kindness and extreme thoughtfulness for audience.  We can expect no less of ourselves as Christians.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;d like at some point to have a discussion regarding non-LDS women professionals who have the same concerns about child rearing as we do.  We&#8217;re not alone in our struggle for strong families, and I think that recognizing strength outside the church, rather than labeling perceived selfishness, would be wise.</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danithew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Random idea ... but it seems that this demographic of LDS single professional women ought to have a blog or a magazine.  I&#039;m certainly not the person to do it ... but I&#039;ll bet it would take off if it was done right.  Feminist Mormon Housewives has been a big hit in and outside the &#039;Nacle ... it would be interesting to have another womens blog from a slightly different angle/perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random idea &#8230; but it seems that this demographic of LDS single professional women ought to have a blog or a magazine.  I&#8217;m certainly not the person to do it &#8230; but I&#8217;ll bet it would take off if it was done right.  Feminist Mormon Housewives has been a big hit in and outside the &#8216;Nacle &#8230; it would be interesting to have another womens blog from a slightly different angle/perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danithew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m certainly not the person to do it ...&quot;

DUH.  I&#039;m not sure why I wrote that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m certainly not the person to do it &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DUH.  I&#8217;m not sure why I wrote that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/06/04/stop-making-assumptions-about-me/#comment-99552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said, Karen.  Thanks for the wonderful post.  I especially appreciated your comments on how women should grow up and take responsibility for supporting themselves, buying homes, establishing careers, and generally learning to take care of themselves instead of waiting around for men to save them.

You should be proud of all your accomplishments. I think the root of most of the suspicion toward singles in the Church is pure jealousy.  The grass is always greener on the other side, and marriage can be incredibly hard sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, Karen.  Thanks for the wonderful post.  I especially appreciated your comments on how women should grow up and take responsibility for supporting themselves, buying homes, establishing careers, and generally learning to take care of themselves instead of waiting around for men to save them.</p>
<p>You should be proud of all your accomplishments. I think the root of most of the suspicion toward singles in the Church is pure jealousy.  The grass is always greener on the other side, and marriage can be incredibly hard sometimes.</p>
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