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	<title>Comments on: Doctrinal Debate</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta be tough for the single man.  What&#039;s his excuse??

Of course, being a polygamous wife would be pretty tough, too.   I think there are different meanings to &quot;who&#039;s worst off&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta be tough for the single man.  What&#8217;s his excuse??</p>
<p>Of course, being a polygamous wife would be pretty tough, too.   I think there are different meanings to &#8220;who&#8217;s worst off&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: john fowles</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31232</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[of course, being a single woman in heaven could be terrible too -- are there singles&#039; wards in heaven?  If so, how can hell exist in heaven??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course, being a single woman in heaven could be terrible too &#8212; are there singles&#8217; wards in heaven?  If so, how can hell exist in heaven??</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a provocative question, and centers on what is meant by heaven.    If heaven = the Celestial Kingdom, then we are taught that everyone will be happy, and that will be married in the CK.  So there will be no single men or single women. And presumably couples will be able to procreate.

If heaven is not defined as the CK, but instead defined in such a way as to mirror life on earth, then we do have some research to go on, in society at least.

Of the following four categories: married men, single men, married women, single women, the findings are that the most happy group is married men and the most unhappy group is single men.  The second happiest group is single women; the third happiest group is married women women.

Of course this is all self-reports, on a variety of measures of happiness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a provocative question, and centers on what is meant by heaven.    If heaven = the Celestial Kingdom, then we are taught that everyone will be happy, and that will be married in the CK.  So there will be no single men or single women. And presumably couples will be able to procreate.</p>
<p>If heaven is not defined as the CK, but instead defined in such a way as to mirror life on earth, then we do have some research to go on, in society at least.</p>
<p>Of the following four categories: married men, single men, married women, single women, the findings are that the most happy group is married men and the most unhappy group is single men.  The second happiest group is single women; the third happiest group is married women women.</p>
<p>Of course this is all self-reports, on a variety of measures of happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a random John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who the heck is voting for married but childless couples?  You&#039;re going to hold infertility against people?  Or is there an implication that if you don&#039;t have children it is by choice?  Do adoptions count here?  How about people that get married at 50?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the heck is voting for married but childless couples?  You&#8217;re going to hold infertility against people?  Or is there an implication that if you don&#8217;t have children it is by choice?  Do adoptions count here?  How about people that get married at 50?</p>
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		<title>By: Talon</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Talon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Who the heck is voting for married but childless couples?&quot;

I think its just that the couples with children hold the childless couples in contempt, while the childless couples just roll up the tinted windows on their BMW and don&#039;t pay much attention to what the couples with children think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who the heck is voting for married but childless couples?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think its just that the couples with children hold the childless couples in contempt, while the childless couples just roll up the tinted windows on their BMW and don&#8217;t pay much attention to what the couples with children think.</p>
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		<title>By: Talon</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Talon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, that was insensitive of me...I meant to say Mercedez Benz.

LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that was insensitive of me&#8230;I meant to say Mercedez Benz.</p>
<p>LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talon, we don&#039;t drive those cheap European cars, unless you&#039;re talking about Aston-Martins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talon, we don&#8217;t drive those cheap European cars, unless you&#8217;re talking about Aston-Martins.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Stapley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m one of those &quot;things are really going to be diferent there;&quot; so much so that I think it is dangerous to project our concepts of happiness and fullfillment onto the eternities.

That said, there is the whole &quot;same sociality&quot; thing, which if it is completely literal, the single man loses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those &#8220;things are really going to be diferent there;&#8221; so much so that I think it is dangerous to project our concepts of happiness and fullfillment onto the eternities.</p>
<p>That said, there is the whole &#8220;same sociality&#8221; thing, which if it is completely literal, the single man loses.</p>
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		<title>By: John Harrison</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/11/doctrinal-debate/#comment-31240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Harrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam Greenwood has asserted elsewhere that we will all look alike in the CK.  This will make it extra terrible for both single men and single women since they&#039;ll all look the same.  You won&#039;t even know if your date is a man or woman until you ask them, and then you&#039;d better hope they&#039;re telling the truth.  Those of us that are already married can at least live with a perfect memory of what our spouses looked like in mortality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Greenwood has asserted elsewhere that we will all look alike in the CK.  This will make it extra terrible for both single men and single women since they&#8217;ll all look the same.  You won&#8217;t even know if your date is a man or woman until you ask them, and then you&#8217;d better hope they&#8217;re telling the truth.  Those of us that are already married can at least live with a perfect memory of what our spouses looked like in mortality.</p>
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