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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61302</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance Sunstone or Dehlin are going to post recordings or transcripts of their Bloggernacle remarks?  Seems like a great item to post at the new Sunstone blog, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance Sunstone or Dehlin are going to post recordings or transcripts of their Bloggernacle remarks?  Seems like a great item to post at the new Sunstone blog, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61303</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, Sunstone will be selling copies of John&#039;s presentation for $8.00.

I quite enjoyed John&#039;s performance.  I&#039;m sure there are a number of claims that people (bloggers) could quarrel with, but all in all, I thought it was an enjoyable presentation.

Jonathan, you missed a really fabulous musical session by the Pixtons.  Really good stuff.

Aaron B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, Sunstone will be selling copies of John&#8217;s presentation for $8.00.</p>
<p>I quite enjoyed John&#8217;s performance.  I&#8217;m sure there are a number of claims that people (bloggers) could quarrel with, but all in all, I thought it was an enjoyable presentation.</p>
<p>Jonathan, you missed a really fabulous musical session by the Pixtons.  Really good stuff.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: RoastedTomatoes</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61304</link>
		<dc:creator>RoastedTomatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Dave&#039;s motion.  John Dehlin, you &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; ask us what we expect of the Sunstone internet initiative.  Stand and deliver, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Dave&#8217;s motion.  John Dehlin, you <i>did</i> ask us what we expect of the Sunstone internet initiative.  Stand and deliver, man!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dehlin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61305</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dehlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming very soon!!!!  (within the hour, hopefully)</description>
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		<title>By: John Dehlin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61306</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dehlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here it is!  (the raw audio file, and the PPT).

I look forward to your thoughts/feedback.

http://mormonstories.org/?p=25</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it is!  (the raw audio file, and the PPT).</p>
<p>I look forward to your thoughts/feedback.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=25" rel="nofollow">http://mormonstories.org/?p=25</a></p>
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		<title>By: trish</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61307</link>
		<dc:creator>trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, you didn&#039;t mention Phil McLemore&#039;s presentation on Mormon Mantras.  His stories were personal, humorous, and heart-breaking.  A lot of time was spent on &quot;bad&quot; mantras (that &quot;reflect superstition or bad religion; excuse, tolerate, or cover ungodly behavior; and/or oppress or take advantage of others&quot;).  I only wish there had been more time for him to discuss &quot;good&quot; mantras (those that &quot;help one awaken to higher self and to entrain with the Divine; create &#039;space&#039; for conscious, inspired decision making; and/or promote unity within self, with God, and with others&quot;).

As with Margaret Starbird&#039;s presentation on Mary Magdalene, there was no time given for Q&amp;A.  Quite a shame, and quite a difference from last year&#039;s symposium.

It seems, this year, that we were half the number present from last year (I wish I knew the exact numbers; something like 60 participants last year, and 30 or 40 this year), and that at least 30% of the participants this year seemed to be visitors and guests from other regions...

Which was why I was so excited by John Dehlin&#039;s presentation on the Mormon Cybergalaxy.  I started laughing, inwardly, near the end of John&#039;s presentation when I realized that what Steve Jones (who introduced John) was saying about John&#039;s &quot;passion&quot; was that John gets really excited about this topic.  Yes, passionate was the right word...  It was infectious.

I&#039;m curious, Jonathan, what reactions did you see during John&#039;s presentation?  And how, if that&#039;s what you meant, did that correspond to the slide of the Feminist Mormon Housewives site?  You&#039;re quite right; these blogs will now get some increased traffic.

I kept wondering, however, all throughout John&#039;s presentation, when do people have the time to blog or read and/or participate in other&#039;s blogs?  And just because we can, should we?  Is it socially and ecologically wise?

And Aaron was right: you missed a great hour of music with Tom Pixton and his musical children (live and recorded).  His daughter, Skye, played the guitar and sang with her husband, and Tom played a recording of his son&#039;s rendition of Adam-ondi-Ahman which was fabulous (and can be downloaded at www.claytonpixton.com) and has stayed with me all weekend.  But the song that has been in my head all day today was the Mack Wilberg rendition of Praise to the Man.  I love how some music resonates so deeply within me (especially live music) that it makes my skin and scalp seem electrified.  Even if it&#039;s silly music.  Even if too much Mormon music is performed ostentatiously these days...

And I really enjoyed the final hour of &quot;The Best Ideas in Mormonism&quot;, which felt like a mini-Testimony meeting...

Wow!  What a long post!  And you, Jonathan?  Now that John has posted the audio file, what about your Sunstone NW lunch-break interviews that you recorded?  Will you ever share it?  It really made me wish I had an iPod of my own...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, you didn&#8217;t mention Phil McLemore&#8217;s presentation on Mormon Mantras.  His stories were personal, humorous, and heart-breaking.  A lot of time was spent on &#8220;bad&#8221; mantras (that &#8220;reflect superstition or bad religion; excuse, tolerate, or cover ungodly behavior; and/or oppress or take advantage of others&#8221;).  I only wish there had been more time for him to discuss &#8220;good&#8221; mantras (those that &#8220;help one awaken to higher self and to entrain with the Divine; create &#8217;space&#8217; for conscious, inspired decision making; and/or promote unity within self, with God, and with others&#8221;).</p>
<p>As with Margaret Starbird&#8217;s presentation on Mary Magdalene, there was no time given for Q&#038;A.  Quite a shame, and quite a difference from last year&#8217;s symposium.</p>
<p>It seems, this year, that we were half the number present from last year (I wish I knew the exact numbers; something like 60 participants last year, and 30 or 40 this year), and that at least 30% of the participants this year seemed to be visitors and guests from other regions&#8230;</p>
<p>Which was why I was so excited by John Dehlin&#8217;s presentation on the Mormon Cybergalaxy.  I started laughing, inwardly, near the end of John&#8217;s presentation when I realized that what Steve Jones (who introduced John) was saying about John&#8217;s &#8220;passion&#8221; was that John gets really excited about this topic.  Yes, passionate was the right word&#8230;  It was infectious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, Jonathan, what reactions did you see during John&#8217;s presentation?  And how, if that&#8217;s what you meant, did that correspond to the slide of the Feminist Mormon Housewives site?  You&#8217;re quite right; these blogs will now get some increased traffic.</p>
<p>I kept wondering, however, all throughout John&#8217;s presentation, when do people have the time to blog or read and/or participate in other&#8217;s blogs?  And just because we can, should we?  Is it socially and ecologically wise?</p>
<p>And Aaron was right: you missed a great hour of music with Tom Pixton and his musical children (live and recorded).  His daughter, Skye, played the guitar and sang with her husband, and Tom played a recording of his son&#8217;s rendition of Adam-ondi-Ahman which was fabulous (and can be downloaded at <a href="http://www.claytonpixton.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.claytonpixton.com</a>) and has stayed with me all weekend.  But the song that has been in my head all day today was the Mack Wilberg rendition of Praise to the Man.  I love how some music resonates so deeply within me (especially live music) that it makes my skin and scalp seem electrified.  Even if it&#8217;s silly music.  Even if too much Mormon music is performed ostentatiously these days&#8230;</p>
<p>And I really enjoyed the final hour of &#8220;The Best Ideas in Mormonism&#8221;, which felt like a mini-Testimony meeting&#8230;</p>
<p>Wow!  What a long post!  And you, Jonathan?  Now that John has posted the audio file, what about your Sunstone NW lunch-break interviews that you recorded?  Will you ever share it?  It really made me wish I had an iPod of my own&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61308</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Trish, for your great comment!  Sadly, the audio quality of my lunchtime interviews was quite poor (I used a mic that was intended not to be used with so much going on in the background).  I think some of it will be salvaged in this weeks Zeitcast (see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloggernalcle.or&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bloggernacle Times&lt;/a&gt;).  But if I had to guess, I think Steve, who is doing the editing, may have something up his sleeve.

I was actually hoping to bait Aaron into posting the rest of the review for me.  Thank you for your mini reviews.  I agree, McLemore&#039;s presentation was quite enjoyable and focused on what we are all about in the end - becoming more Christ-like.

I really regret not having had a Q&amp;A with the presenters, and you are correct that it seemed like there were more people last year.

As to your question of the &quot;sustainability&quot; of blogging, I personally think that it is a wonderful way to spend time...  It seemed like there was quite a bit of interest and a lot of note taking during John&#039;s presentation (especially with the FMH slide).  The question that people kept asking me was, &quot;where do you find the time.&quot;  Well, where do we find the time to do anything.  Everybody has time to spend, whether it be TV, exercise, reading or whatever.  It is how we allocate our time that is the big question.  I don&#039;t watch TV, mostly because I find it banal, so I read and write in the evenings.  I also check the blogs in between moments at work to stay sane.  It doesn&#039;t take time to stay engaged as much as it takes volition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Trish, for your great comment!  Sadly, the audio quality of my lunchtime interviews was quite poor (I used a mic that was intended not to be used with so much going on in the background).  I think some of it will be salvaged in this weeks Zeitcast (see the <a href="http://www.bloggernalcle.or" rel="nofollow">Bloggernacle Times</a>).  But if I had to guess, I think Steve, who is doing the editing, may have something up his sleeve.</p>
<p>I was actually hoping to bait Aaron into posting the rest of the review for me.  Thank you for your mini reviews.  I agree, McLemore&#8217;s presentation was quite enjoyable and focused on what we are all about in the end &#8211; becoming more Christ-like.</p>
<p>I really regret not having had a Q&#038;A with the presenters, and you are correct that it seemed like there were more people last year.</p>
<p>As to your question of the &#8220;sustainability&#8221; of blogging, I personally think that it is a wonderful way to spend time&#8230;  It seemed like there was quite a bit of interest and a lot of note taking during John&#8217;s presentation (especially with the FMH slide).  The question that people kept asking me was, &#8220;where do you find the time.&#8221;  Well, where do we find the time to do anything.  Everybody has time to spend, whether it be TV, exercise, reading or whatever.  It is how we allocate our time that is the big question.  I don&#8217;t watch TV, mostly because I find it banal, so I read and write in the evenings.  I also check the blogs in between moments at work to stay sane.  It doesn&#8217;t take time to stay engaged as much as it takes volition.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dehlin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61309</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dehlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I learn more about FAIR Wiki?</description>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61310</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like I heard about it on LDS-Phil.  And I know that Clark Goble has mentioned it.  It seems to me that some heavies were commiting to participate (e.g., Ostler).  I did a quick search and couldn&#039;t find anything, but the guys over there are typicaly quite responsive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like I heard about it on LDS-Phil.  And I know that Clark Goble has mentioned it.  It seems to me that some heavies were commiting to participate (e.g., Ostler).  I did a quick search and couldn&#8217;t find anything, but the guys over there are typicaly quite responsive.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/10/16/sunstone-nw-notes/#comment-61311</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brown</dc:creator>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I missed some of the Symposium, what with John and I talking outside the front door and in the kitchen.  (Didn&#039;t you all hear my annoying, booming voice?)  Thus, I&#039;m not sure I have much to add, Jonathan.

I too want to hear your interviews, Stapley.  I hope some of it is salvageable.

Aaron B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I missed some of the Symposium, what with John and I talking outside the front door and in the kitchen.  (Didn&#8217;t you all hear my annoying, booming voice?)  Thus, I&#8217;m not sure I have much to add, Jonathan.</p>
<p>I too want to hear your interviews, Stapley.  I hope some of it is salvageable.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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