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	<title>Comments on: If you say &#8220;damn&#8221; or &#8220;hell&#8221; one more time, I think I&#8217;ll kill myself!</title>
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		<title>By: Randy B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a shoo-in for a Darwin Award.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a shoo-in for a Darwin Award.</p>
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		<title>By: gunner</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gunner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I might as well put my head in the lions mouth but here goes.

The guy who jumped was wrong. It&#039;s that simple to me. The line in the article that shows it to me is this one.

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he became offended by one of them using profanity. Poulson, who recently returned from an LDS mission, threatened to get out of the truck if he continued.
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I have read elsewhere comments that he died for his beliefs. Wrong. He died trying to get other people to follow and live by his beliefs. His &quot;threat&quot; to jump was a form of coercion. His bluff was called. He died for his beliefs yes, but he died trying to force others to follow them also. That&#039;s wrong.

What you said was correct

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If you find yourself in an unwholesome environment, just up and leave
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The thing is your Sunday school teacher never said &quot;Get up and leave if they don&#039;t do what you command&quot;

Maybe he had not decompressed from the mission, but he attempted to make them jump to his rules. He failed, and died.

He had a whole life in front of him and yet he jumped because he failed to force them to do as he wanted. Dumb dumb dumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might as well put my head in the lions mouth but here goes.</p>
<p>The guy who jumped was wrong. It&#8217;s that simple to me. The line in the article that shows it to me is this one.</p>
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he became offended by one of them using profanity. Poulson, who recently returned from an LDS mission, threatened to get out of the truck if he continued.<br />
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<p>I have read elsewhere comments that he died for his beliefs. Wrong. He died trying to get other people to follow and live by his beliefs. His &#8220;threat&#8221; to jump was a form of coercion. His bluff was called. He died for his beliefs yes, but he died trying to force others to follow them also. That&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>What you said was correct</p>
<p>==========<br />
If you find yourself in an unwholesome environment, just up and leave<br />
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<p>The thing is your Sunday school teacher never said &#8220;Get up and leave if they don&#8217;t do what you command&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe he had not decompressed from the mission, but he attempted to make them jump to his rules. He failed, and died.</p>
<p>He had a whole life in front of him and yet he jumped because he failed to force them to do as he wanted. Dumb dumb dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No to Jon Krakauer-style commentary--yes to prayers and sympathy for the family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No to Jon Krakauer-style commentary&#8211;yes to prayers and sympathy for the family.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gunner,
I think Aaron agrees with you. As do I.

But it&#039;s really hard to call someone dumb that was just killed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gunner,<br />
I think Aaron agrees with you. As do I.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s really hard to call someone dumb that was just killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bookslinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was he killed or did he commit suicide?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was he killed or did he commit suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elisabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope no returned missionaries come to work in my office. Luckily, our windows don&#039;t open (I&#039;ve tried).

I&#039;m so sorry for the family of this boy. Such a tragedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope no returned missionaries come to work in my office. Luckily, our windows don&#8217;t open (I&#8217;ve tried).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry for the family of this boy. Such a tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: gunner</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gunner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daumb might have been cruel, but what is the Darwin award but the grand prize for the dumb ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daumb might have been cruel, but what is the Darwin award but the grand prize for the dumb ones.</p>
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		<title>By: jay s</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jay s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to be a cynic, but the description of what happened came from those in the truck.  Could it be possible that they are witholding information or putting their spin on the story?

I read in the story there was an argument, could this argument have escalated by oversensitive RM condemming his companions, resulting in a little push?

Could the companions &quot; i told him to jump&quot; have been a little threatening perhaps, and MR Poulson jumped to &quot;save&quot; himself.

Could the RM have been half joking about his desire to jump and then have fallen?

Could he have made the ultimatum with out any intent to do so, and then, being dared to do so, thought it might be a funny/exciting thing to do?

Extreme perhaps, but it seems unlikely that the KSL article has all the details.

Maybe a pause for the deceased before we rush to judge too harshly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be a cynic, but the description of what happened came from those in the truck.  Could it be possible that they are witholding information or putting their spin on the story?</p>
<p>I read in the story there was an argument, could this argument have escalated by oversensitive RM condemming his companions, resulting in a little push?</p>
<p>Could the companions &#8221; i told him to jump&#8221; have been a little threatening perhaps, and MR Poulson jumped to &#8220;save&#8221; himself.</p>
<p>Could the RM have been half joking about his desire to jump and then have fallen?</p>
<p>Could he have made the ultimatum with out any intent to do so, and then, being dared to do so, thought it might be a funny/exciting thing to do?</p>
<p>Extreme perhaps, but it seems unlikely that the KSL article has all the details.</p>
<p>Maybe a pause for the deceased before we rush to judge too harshly.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW, how tragic for everyone....no matter the cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, how tragic for everyone&#8230;.no matter the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2005/11/15/if-you-say-damn-or-hell-one-more-time-i-think-ill-kill-myself/#comment-67633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Siever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, this is an occasion where it makes sense to say he was LDS (let alone a returned missionary).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, this is an occasion where it makes sense to say he was LDS (let alone a returned missionary).</p>
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