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	<title>Comments on: An Open Letter to Councillor Terry Kelly</title>
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		<title>By: Mormon Stories Open. Honest. Respectful. &#187; Accepting Nominations for Internet Events Within Mormonism for 2005-2006</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mormon Stories Open. Honest. Respectful. &#187; Accepting Nominations for Internet Events Within Mormonism for 2005-2006]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Dan Peterson Visits the Bloggernacle [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mormon Stories Open. Honest. Respectful. &#187; Are Mormon Apologetics a Gateway to Ex- or Anti-Mormonism? Or&#8230;.Why I Support Sunstone</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mormon Stories Open. Honest. Respectful. &#187; Are Mormon Apologetics a Gateway to Ex- or Anti-Mormonism? Or&#8230;.Why I Support Sunstone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Recent postings by Lou Midgley and Dan Peterson in the bloggernacle are benign examples of what I mean. If you want the full banana&#8230;.check out the FAIR Message Boards. Blech. Yuck. I almost feel dirty linking to that post. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recent postings by Lou Midgley and Dan Peterson in the bloggernacle are benign examples of what I mean. If you want the full banana&#8230;.check out the FAIR Message Boards. Blech. Yuck. I almost feel dirty linking to that post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: By Common Consent &#187; BjÃ¶rn Again</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[By Common Consent &#187; BjÃ¶rn Again]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Some people I know talk about how the prospect of becoming a father has softened them, chastened them and made them anew. Many of you have no doubt witnessed this change in me already. Joking aside, I do see a new life coming for me, and I&#8217;m not sure what it means. But I&#8217;m looking forward to it. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some people I know talk about how the prospect of becoming a father has softened them, chastened them and made them anew. Many of you have no doubt witnessed this change in me already. Joking aside, I do see a new life coming for me, and I&#8217;m not sure what it means. But I&#8217;m looking forward to it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KLC, you could be right.  I hope you&#039;re not.  I certainly don&#039;t see myself as playing the same game as Dan.  In any event, you&#039;re right that we pontificate plenty but can do a lot more to be bona fide.  It&#039;s clear that you&#039;re a DP fan -- fortunately there are the FAIR boards for you to find him at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLC, you could be right.  I hope you&#8217;re not.  I certainly don&#8217;t see myself as playing the same game as Dan.  In any event, you&#8217;re right that we pontificate plenty but can do a lot more to be bona fide.  It&#8217;s clear that you&#8217;re a DP fan &#8212; fortunately there are the FAIR boards for you to find him at.</p>
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		<title>By: KLC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the whole thing Steve.  The reason I didn&#039;t include the apologies is the end result.  DP was essentially shunned and ended up leaving because he is intelligent, willing to vigorously engage shoddy thinking and wickedly funny, all qualities that the bloggernacle covets and tries to emulate yet only rarely achieves.

This seems to happen every time he shows up. I think it&#039;s because philsophically he is committed to a more conservative POV than many in the bloggernacle, and because he is better than most of you at your own game.  Neither seems to be acceptable in a place that endlessley pontificates about acceptance and tolerance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the whole thing Steve.  The reason I didn&#8217;t include the apologies is the end result.  DP was essentially shunned and ended up leaving because he is intelligent, willing to vigorously engage shoddy thinking and wickedly funny, all qualities that the bloggernacle covets and tries to emulate yet only rarely achieves.</p>
<p>This seems to happen every time he shows up. I think it&#8217;s because philsophically he is committed to a more conservative POV than many in the bloggernacle, and because he is better than most of you at your own game.  Neither seems to be acceptable in a place that endlessley pontificates about acceptance and tolerance.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KLC, did you stop reading at comment 87?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLC, did you stop reading at comment 87?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KLC,

I agree that this has not been BCC&#039;s finest hour all round. Still, comments are notoriously scrappy and prone to melting down for stupid reasons, often complete misunderstandings. We&#039;ll try harder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLC,</p>
<p>I agree that this has not been BCC&#8217;s finest hour all round. Still, comments are notoriously scrappy and prone to melting down for stupid reasons, often complete misunderstandings. We&#8217;ll try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: KLC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What kind of alternate universe is this thread?

Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with Helmut; RT condescendingly tries to put Dan in his place with a misplaced appeal to statistical rigor; Dan Peterson vigorously and intellegently disagrees with RT; RT condescendingly chastises DP by mischaracterizing what DP said; Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with RT; Frank McIntyre comes to DP&#039;s defense and Steve Evans tries to assert his dominance in his playground by telling him to shut up; Elisabeth and Rebecca now join in and try to paint it all as childish with a broad and facile brush; Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with such a puerile mischaracterization.

DP is essentially called the villain by several BCC uberlords for daring to engage the original witless statements in intelligent and reasoned discussion, meanwhile their own comments are anything but.

Dan Peterson is a breath of fresh air every time he shows up in the bloggernacle.  He is witty, intelligent, educated, urbane and willing to call people on their shoddy thinking.  He ought to be welcomed with open arms in places where these qualities are supposedly admired.  Instead he is chased off.  Well done BCC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of alternate universe is this thread?</p>
<p>Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with Helmut; RT condescendingly tries to put Dan in his place with a misplaced appeal to statistical rigor; Dan Peterson vigorously and intellegently disagrees with RT; RT condescendingly chastises DP by mischaracterizing what DP said; Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with RT; Frank McIntyre comes to DP&#8217;s defense and Steve Evans tries to assert his dominance in his playground by telling him to shut up; Elisabeth and Rebecca now join in and try to paint it all as childish with a broad and facile brush; Dan Peterson vigorously and intelligently disagrees with such a puerile mischaracterization.</p>
<p>DP is essentially called the villain by several BCC uberlords for daring to engage the original witless statements in intelligent and reasoned discussion, meanwhile their own comments are anything but.</p>
<p>Dan Peterson is a breath of fresh air every time he shows up in the bloggernacle.  He is witty, intelligent, educated, urbane and willing to call people on their shoddy thinking.  He ought to be welcomed with open arms in places where these qualities are supposedly admired.  Instead he is chased off.  Well done BCC.</p>
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		<title>By: john f.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john f.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HL, you simply don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about re Mormons and non-Mormons in Utah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HL, you simply don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about re Mormons and non-Mormons in Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/05/28/an-open-letter-to-councillor-terry-kelly/#comment-49846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Dan and Aaron.  I also think that gay, polygamous marriages, abortion, and Sudanese genocide should be illegal (mostly).  I try to avoid confusing my views on morality with my views on law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dan and Aaron.  I also think that gay, polygamous marriages, abortion, and Sudanese genocide should be illegal (mostly).  I try to avoid confusing my views on morality with my views on law.</p>
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