Devilish ironies

Any early present for Anti-Christ day: 6/6/06.

Did you know that Jesus was Lucifer? (That’ll get Ed Decker going.) Well, perhaps only in philological geekdom.

In 2 Peter 1:19, the “day star,” (Gk. phosphoros) is said to arise in our hearts when we receive the “more sure word of prophecy.” The reference is to Jesus. This “day star” (literally Venus), is called helel in Hebrew (see Isaiah 14:12 where it refers to the king of Babylon). The Latinized translation? “Lucifer.”

Because Jesus referred to the fall of “Satan” using the image of Venus’s brightness on the horizon (Luke 10:18), the epithet “Lucifer” has stuck for the demon we call the Devil.

It is interesting to note that the names we often take to be synonymous (for example, “devil,” “Satan,” “Beelzebub,” “Lucifer,” etc.) have separate and interesting philological origins.

Comments

  1. more sure word of prophecy

    Here’s an example of the kind of Mormon funkiness that would be shorn of its context if we moved away from the KJV. NetBible: “the prophetic word as an altogether reliable thing.”

  2. “…have separate and interesting philological origins.”

    And where might one find exactly what these distinctions are in a lazy fashion (i.e., please do go on)?

  3. Kevin Barney says:

    I remember reading in a Latin poem, I want to say in the Odes of Horace, the line *lucifer et nocifer*, “bringer of day and bearer of night,” speaking of Venus as the evening and morning star.

  4. Bob,

    You have to remember that these are not personal names, but epithets and titles, some of which did not originally denote a devil or the Devil. So, for example, “satan” in Hebrew can be the title of anyone who opposes someone else, be they David, an angel, or even God. Since there is no “devil” per se in the OT, it only later denoted “the Devil.”

  5. Ronan, how dare you! You know perfectly well that there was a devil in the Old Testament. The gospel never changes!!!

    They also had the Word of Wisdom back then. I’m sure of it!!!! And Jello.

  6. RT,
    I know, I’m wicked. Interestingly, the “satan” in Job jives well with Mormon theology which requires an agent provocateur to “test and try” mankind. But biblical scholars wouldn’t call this guy the Devil. For one thing, he and Yahweh are far too chummy.

  7. Ed Snow says:

    And, Ronan (#6), LDS theology would not allow God to place a bet, especially with Satan, who can just stroll into the celestial holy of holies apparently without even an appointment in the Book of Job.

  8. Mark Butler says:

    Is there any convincing argument the Isaiah 14 figure who is:

    1. Fallen from heaven
    2. Wants to exalt his throne above the stars of God
    3. Wants to be like the Most High
    4. Made the world as a wilderness
    5. Destroyed the cities / shook kingdoms
    6. Is *not* a king of nations
    7. Is cast out as an abominable branch
    8. Shall inherit hell / “the pit”

    is not at least a dual prophecy about the devil and the King of Babylon?

    For great are the words of Isaiah. For surely he spake as touching all things concerning my people which are of the house of Israel; therefore it must needs be that he must speak also to the Gentiles. And all things that he spake have been and shall be, even according to the words which he spake.
    (3 Nephi 23:1-3)

  9. What’s philological mean? I’m too lazy to look it up. 8^D

    I’m just kicking myself for sleeping through 1:23 am April 5th, 2006.

  10. Mark,
    Yep. Sounds like one of those nasty Mesopotamian kings.

    Sarebear,
    Philology: having to do with language and writing, linguistics.

  11. greenfrog says:

    Revelations 22:16:

    … I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

  12. greenfrog,
    indeed!

  13. When I was 15, my Mia Maid teacher read this list of titles (similar to the ones you’ve noted) and then she asked if anyone knew who it was she was describing. No one raised their hand. I thought, how stupid, it’s obviously Jesus. So I said it’s Jesus! She paused, looked at me very seriously and said, “No Amri, it’s Satan.”
    I was mortified. Because I was a know-it-all and because I couldn’t imagine that Jesus and Satan were so closely linked. I sulked about it all day.

    http://raptureready.com/rap2.html
    to help you gauge if you’re ready for the rapture this 6.6.06.

  14. Amri,

    Check this out. Maybe it will make you feel better. Or maybe it won’t, but it’s funny regardless.

  15. “I know the answer is Jesus, but it sure sounds like a squirrel to me.”

    My fav.
    Thanks Frank.

  16. I just went to the grocery store and bought some bulk pumpkin seeds. Their bulk item number? 666.

    Cuh-rap. I think I’m in trouble.

  17. Possessed pumpkin seeds! Those would grow into the Jack Skellington heads, and grimacing jack-(&jane)o-lanterns!!

    You know how as a kid older ones would try to make you think a watermelon would grow in your tummy if you swallowed a seed accidentally?

    Well, these are the pumpkin seeds that’d do JUST that (pumpkins, not watermelons!)

    Thanks Ronan. And thanks people for putting up w/my sillyness!

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