Comments on: Reading the Marriage and Family Relations manual, Chapter 1

By: HP/JDC

HP/JDC — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:23:19 +0000

For that matter, "an help meet" might be best read as "a power equal to". For more on that, read here and then thank Ben.

By: CS Eric

CS Eric — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:55:05 +0000

Neither my wife or I make pies. She makes a killer oatmeal chocolate chip cookie, though. Does that count for anything?

By: BTD Greg

BTD Greg — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:25:27 +0000

What I learned from this excerpt: at some point before I become a grandfather, I’m going to have to stop baking pies.

[insert some random Ghostbusters quote here for reasons that are not entirely clear to me]

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:10:26 +0000

FHL, I am not sure that President Packer had something so graphic in mind. My suspicion is that he was simply referring to the way we view gender roles in general, i.e., if a woman tries to be the priesthood leader/protector/provider.

By: FHL

FHL — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:03:14 +0000

So, changing the shape of the key to look like the other one would be … gender reassignment?

By: Mike Parker

Mike Parker — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:36:33 +0000

Eve, an helpmeet, was created.

I’m always a little dismayed at the misuse of the phrase “help meet.” It is too often used in the Church as a single word in the form of a noun, with implications of inferiority — like Eve was some kind of assistant.

The KJV of Genesis 2:18 actually reads “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.” The phrasing is archaic; the translators were after the idea of “a helper suitable for him.”

In Hebrew the passage literally reads “a helper according to the opposite of him.” The term does not suggest a subordinate role; rather, it seems to express the idea of an “indispensable companion” — the woman would supply what the man was lacking and logically it would follow that the man would supply what she was lacking.

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:13:25 +0000

Margaret, don’t go changing my roller skates into a skateboard, or else you will never unlock my treasure.

By: Margaret Young

Margaret Young — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:59:20 +0000

Thank you Kevin Barney for putting Melanie’s song back into my mind! I wish my computer had a component which would play the song–which, incidentally, I was warned was rather pornographic back in the day. (Leaders were cautioned to never play it or “Angel of the Morning” at Church dances.) So thanks to the parable, we do understand more about roller skates. But in 2006, how do we deal with skateboards? Obviously phallic symbols, they don’t even require a key. Is the skateboard in fact a symbol of the instant gratification-based sexual revolution? And what of those signs that say, “Skateboarding is not a crime!”? Dang kids. We need a parable about skateboards.

By: Tatiana

Tatiana — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 01:53:48 +0000

I can’t wait until we get to “The Miracle of Forgiveness”.

By: HP/JDC

HP/JDC — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:33:08 +0000

No really. The ancient Hebrews figured good women got married.