Comments on: The 1964 World’s Fair http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/ A Mormon Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Milt http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33109 Milt Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:53:47 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33109 Thanks for this post. I served in the NYC Mission in the mid-70's. In fact, the Plainview Stake was in my greenie area. As someone mentioned earlier, it was a common response for investigators to mention having attended the Mormon Pavillion but I never saw a picture of it until now. I'd also like to bear my testimony that the Yankees are the only true baseball team ;) Thanks for this post. I served in the NYC Mission in the mid-70’s. In fact, the Plainview Stake was in my greenie area. As someone mentioned earlier, it was a common response for investigators to mention having attended the Mormon Pavillion but I never saw a picture of it until now.

I’d also like to bear my testimony that the Yankees are the only true baseball team ;)

]]> By: mw* http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33108 mw* Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:56 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33108 Meems, I guess it seems odd to me that the Churches would not try torepresent at the expo, especially when compared to something like the 1964 expo. Maybe the cost of doing an Expo has gone too high. I read that this 2005 expo cost Billions (Though it earned 11 Billion Yen profit, unlike the 64 expo, which made negative millions) At any rate, I envy your chance to be in Japan and see such a grand exhibit, some of us can only dream... :) Meems, I guess it seems odd to me that the Churches would not try torepresent at the expo, especially when compared to something like the 1964 expo. Maybe the cost of doing an Expo has gone too high. I read that this 2005 expo cost Billions (Though it earned 11 Billion Yen profit, unlike the 64 expo, which made negative millions)

At any rate, I envy your chance to be in Japan and see such a grand exhibit, some of us can only dream… :)

]]> By: meems http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33107 meems Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:35:48 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33107 <blockquote>mw* - Also, The 2005 World Expo, the most resent, was themed “Nature’s Wisdom” At this point, I can find no evidence of any church having a pavilion there….</blockquote> This is the world's fair I went to (oops - world expo...). You're right, no church had a representation there, but the American Pavilion was okay and we were represented (all high-tech and showman style stuff on Ben Franklin). Canada's was a little better I am forced to admit... But still, artists had exhibits, shows, installations, and companies had huge pavilions, etc. There's no reason why a church or our church couldn't have representation. It pulled in tons of people. My family and I went about 5 different times total and it was always packed.

mw* – Also, The 2005 World Expo, the most resent, was themed “Nature’s Wisdom” At this point, I can find no evidence of any church having a pavilion there….

This is the world’s fair I went to (oops – world expo…). You’re right, no church had a representation there, but the American Pavilion was okay and we were represented (all high-tech and showman style stuff on Ben Franklin). Canada’s was a little better I am forced to admit… But still, artists had exhibits, shows, installations, and companies had huge pavilions, etc. There’s no reason why a church or our church couldn’t have representation. It pulled in tons of people. My family and I went about 5 different times total and it was always packed.

]]> By: Guy Murray http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33106 Guy Murray Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:05:17 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33106 <blockquote>Guy (#18) how you like them apples now? Heh heh heh.</blockquote> Steve, would those be "Big Apples"? ;-) I'll have to see how the rest plays out . . I may end up rooting for the Mets afterall.

Guy (#18) how you like them apples now? Heh heh heh.

Steve, would those be “Big Apples”? ;-)

I’ll have to see how the rest plays out . . I may end up rooting for the Mets afterall.

]]> By: D. Fletcher http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33105 D. Fletcher Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:03:54 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33105 My mother led a chorus of Singing Mothers at the LDS pavilion. I vaguely remember that time (I was 6 in '64). My mother led a chorus of Singing Mothers at the LDS pavilion. I vaguely remember that time (I was 6 in ‘64).

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33104 Steve Evans Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:24:16 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33104 Guy (#18) how you like them apples now? Heh heh heh. Guy (#18) how you like them apples now? Heh heh heh.

]]> By: mw* http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33103 mw* Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:24:33 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33103 Mark B. here is the EOM article: http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/missionary/exhibitions_eom.htm I think the EOM may have meant the Spokane world's Fair, but you are definitely correct regarding the incorrect cause/effect relationship regarding the Seattle World's Fair. Of course, there is that time travel machine they keep in Vault 52, but let's not discuss that. I am interested in why there appears to be no religious pavilions at the World's Fairs (or Expos as they are now called anymore) Is this just another example of the nations exercising their "freedom from religion" seperation clauses? In other World's Fair news, The San Francisco World's Fairin the 30s had a major Mormon exhibit, and it looks like the last world's Fair with major religious pavilions was in 1982 at Knoxville, which had 1 pavilion for religion sponsored by 13 different churches(Including the Catholic Church) called "The Power" which was very popular, but is allegedly ignored by historians. Why would the Catholics have to share with 12 other churches? Mark B.
here is the EOM article:
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/missionary/exhibitions_eom.htm

I think the EOM may have meant the Spokane world’s Fair, but you are definitely correct regarding the incorrect cause/effect relationship regarding the Seattle World’s Fair. Of course, there is that time travel machine they keep in Vault 52, but let’s not discuss that.

I am interested in why there appears to be no religious pavilions at the World’s Fairs (or Expos as they are now called anymore) Is this just another example of the nations exercising their “freedom from religion” seperation clauses?

In other World’s Fair news, The San Francisco World’s Fairin the 30s had a major Mormon exhibit, and it looks like the last world’s Fair with major religious pavilions was in 1982 at Knoxville, which had 1 pavilion for religion sponsored by 13 different churches(Including the Catholic Church) called “The Power” which was very popular, but is allegedly ignored by historians.

Why would the Catholics have to share with 12 other churches?

]]> By: Mark B. http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33102 Mark B. Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:01:42 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33102 If the Encyclopedia of Mormonism says that "after the success of the New York World's Fair, the Church had exhibits in . . . Seattle, Washington," then the Encyclopedia of Mormonism is wrong. I don't know who the editors/fact checkers/authors for that article are, but they (if they said what mw* says) should hang their heads in shame. (Just like the editors of Dialogue (and, if reports are accurate, the editors of the Pres. McKay biography) over a jaw-dropper in the part about Pres. McKay and Communism--but that's another story for a different post.) Why? Because the Seattle World's Fair, which bequeathed us the monorail and the Space Needle, was in 1962. Even the inspired leadership of the church would have had difficulty in arranging for an exhibit in Seattle in 1962 after the 1964 New York World's Fair. If the Encyclopedia of Mormonism says that “after the success of the New York World’s Fair, the Church had exhibits in . . . Seattle, Washington,” then the Encyclopedia of Mormonism is wrong. I don’t know who the editors/fact checkers/authors for that article are, but they (if they said what mw* says) should hang their heads in shame. (Just like the editors of Dialogue (and, if reports are accurate, the editors of the Pres. McKay biography) over a jaw-dropper in the part about Pres. McKay and Communism–but that’s another story for a different post.)

Why? Because the Seattle World’s Fair, which bequeathed us the monorail and the Space Needle, was in 1962. Even the inspired leadership of the church would have had difficulty in arranging for an exhibit in Seattle in 1962 after the 1964 New York World’s Fair.

]]> By: mw* http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33101 mw* Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:13 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33101 The Encyclopedia of Mormonism doesn't mention the Fair in New Orleans, but states that after the success of the New York World's Fair, the Church had exhibits in "Montreal, Canada; Osaka, Japan; San Antonio, Texas; and Seattle, Washington." We also know that they had a major exhibit at the Spokane Washington World's Fair. It should be noted that the 1982 World's Fair in Knoxville was the last worlds Fair. Starting in 1984, they've been World Expos. Also, The 2005 World Expo, the most resent, was themed "Nature's Wisdom" At this point, I can find no evidence of any church having a pavilion there.... The Encyclopedia of Mormonism doesn’t mention the Fair in New Orleans, but states that after the success of the New York World’s Fair, the Church had exhibits in “Montreal, Canada; Osaka, Japan; San Antonio, Texas; and Seattle, Washington.” We also know that they had a major exhibit at the Spokane Washington World’s Fair.

It should be noted that the 1982 World’s Fair in Knoxville was the last worlds Fair. Starting in 1984, they’ve been World Expos. Also, The 2005 World Expo, the most resent, was themed “Nature’s Wisdom” At this point, I can find no evidence of any church having a pavilion there….

]]> By: mw* http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/06/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33100 mw* Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:44:02 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/the-1964-worlds-fair/#comment-33100 The Young Ambasadors performed at the 1984 World's Fair in New Orleans(which was the last one in the U.S.). I'm not sure if there was a Pavilion or not, but there was definitely an LDS presence. The 1984 Fair is hard to find information on, as the only memory of it seems to be that Michael Jackson did bad things to a minor in the back of a limo. The Young Ambasadors performed at the 1984 World’s Fair in New Orleans(which was the last one in the U.S.). I’m not sure if there was a Pavilion or not, but there was definitely an LDS presence. The 1984 Fair is hard to find information on, as the only memory of it seems to be that Michael Jackson did bad things to a minor in the back of a limo.

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