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		<title>By: Thomas Parkin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62962</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This string brings to mind Cormac Mccarthyâ€™s new book, The Road.&quot;

I love Cormac McCarthy. The Road is utterly devastating. Much to say about it - but mostly ... how ever much I loved this book, was stunned by this book, I can never ever read it again.

I actually finsihed it while in the air en route to General Conference. I&#039;m sure my fellow passengers thought I was on my way to a funeral. I sobbed uncontrollably at the final few pages.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This string brings to mind Cormac Mccarthyâ€™s new book, The Road.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love Cormac McCarthy. The Road is utterly devastating. Much to say about it &#8211; but mostly &#8230; how ever much I loved this book, was stunned by this book, I can never ever read it again.</p>
<p>I actually finsihed it while in the air en route to General Conference. I&#8217;m sure my fellow passengers thought I was on my way to a funeral. I sobbed uncontrollably at the final few pages.</p>
<p>~</p>
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		<title>By: John Mansfield</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mansfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The U.S. spends nearly half of the world&#039;s military money these days, but the good news is that, even with Iraq and Afghanistan, we&#039;re spending a smaller portion of GDP now (4%), then we were twenty years ago (6%).  In Eisenhower and Kennedy&#039;s time it was 9%.  China is only spending 4% currently.

Other good news is that it looks like North Korea and Pakistan are faking it.  Even if they weren&#039;t, a dozen plutonium bombs are not that big a deal.  This isn&#039;t Cold War II.

Mike, credit goes to the Russians for the rocket propelled grenade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. spends nearly half of the world&#8217;s military money these days, but the good news is that, even with Iraq and Afghanistan, we&#8217;re spending a smaller portion of GDP now (4%), then we were twenty years ago (6%).  In Eisenhower and Kennedy&#8217;s time it was 9%.  China is only spending 4% currently.</p>
<p>Other good news is that it looks like North Korea and Pakistan are faking it.  Even if they weren&#8217;t, a dozen plutonium bombs are not that big a deal.  This isn&#8217;t Cold War II.</p>
<p>Mike, credit goes to the Russians for the rocket propelled grenade.</p>
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		<title>By: georgeD</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62959</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if only the Russians and Chinese had nuclear weapons?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if only the Russians and Chinese had nuclear weapons?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Atoms for Peace&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, yes. Eisenhower&#039;s nuclear weapon marketing campaign--get the unwashed masses to feel warm and fuzzy about messing with the atom, create incentives for the have nots to stay that way through promises of technological transfer and quietly develop the world&#039;s most destructive arsenal ever. And all in the name of Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy. Woot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Atoms for Peace</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, yes. Eisenhower&#8217;s nuclear weapon marketing campaign&#8211;get the unwashed masses to feel warm and fuzzy about messing with the atom, create incentives for the have nots to stay that way through promises of technological transfer and quietly develop the world&#8217;s most destructive arsenal ever. And all in the name of Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy. Woot!</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atoms for Peace.  =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atoms for Peace.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: kris</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62957</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan -- Thank you for this post.  I love the idea of weapons like canon balls, facing their own refiner&#039;s fire and being forged into something that was new and productive.  Something that would eventually serve a creative, instead of destructive purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan &#8212; Thank you for this post.  I love the idea of weapons like canon balls, facing their own refiner&#8217;s fire and being forged into something that was new and productive.  Something that would eventually serve a creative, instead of destructive purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeInWeHo</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62956</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: 6  The MAD doctrine takes on a whole new meaning when it comes to Kim Jong-Il, that&#039;s for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 6  The MAD doctrine takes on a whole new meaning when it comes to Kim Jong-Il, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Stapley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, Ronan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Ronan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;the US has proven itself fairly resilient against the temptation to use nuclear force.&lt;/em&gt;

Of course, J, as Jeremy points out, the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons was the US. That&#039;s not meant so much as a jab at America per se -- as Churchill would certainly have done the same thing had he had the means -- but it does remind us that we are not exempt from raining down blood and horror.

Anyway, I love your image of the real purifying fire of God. Stirring stuff.

And yes, N. Korea&#039;s nukes may be the biggest threat to the world that no-one cares about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>the US has proven itself fairly resilient against the temptation to use nuclear force.</em></p>
<p>Of course, J, as Jeremy points out, the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons was the US. That&#8217;s not meant so much as a jab at America per se &#8212; as Churchill would certainly have done the same thing had he had the means &#8212; but it does remind us that we are not exempt from raining down blood and horror.</p>
<p>Anyway, I love your image of the real purifying fire of God. Stirring stuff.</p>
<p>And yes, N. Korea&#8217;s nukes may be the biggest threat to the world that no-one cares about.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/10/09/immersed-in-fire/#comment-62953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Stapley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree about the Military R&amp;D Mike, but the US has proven itself fairly resilient against the temptation to use nuclear force.  In a very twisted way, MAD worked.  I&#039;m pessimistic that it would with N. Korea.

Thanks, all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree about the Military R&#038;D Mike, but the US has proven itself fairly resilient against the temptation to use nuclear force.  In a very twisted way, MAD worked.  I&#8217;m pessimistic that it would with N. Korea.</p>
<p>Thanks, all.</p>
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