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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bookslinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Lorenzo Snow (#2).

Shortly after joining the church, I realized that all the things I had a testimony of (God/Jesus/BoM/Joseph) were also applicable to the RLDS church. Shortly afterwards, Elder David B. Haight visited our stake conference, and I received a testimony that he was a true apostle.  And that finally connected all the dots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Lorenzo Snow (#2).</p>
<p>Shortly after joining the church, I realized that all the things I had a testimony of (God/Jesus/BoM/Joseph) were also applicable to the RLDS church. Shortly afterwards, Elder David B. Haight visited our stake conference, and I received a testimony that he was a true apostle.  And that finally connected all the dots.</p>
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		<title>By: MDS</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MDS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronan,

I am surprised to learn about the local prohibition against &quot;GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott.&quot;  I recall a member in the Ruhrgebiet giving a talk about living a godly life and mentioning his desire that we all incorporate that phrase into our vocabulary as a way to have Him in our thoughts more often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronan,</p>
<p>I am surprised to learn about the local prohibition against &#8220;GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott.&#8221;  I recall a member in the Ruhrgebiet giving a talk about living a godly life and mentioning his desire that we all incorporate that phrase into our vocabulary as a way to have Him in our thoughts more often.</p>
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		<title>By: danithew</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19402</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday we had a testimony given by a recent convert.  He&#039;s a tall African-American gentleman who speaks from the heart.  He&#039;s been a member for maybe a year.  I always enjoy hearing his prayers and thoughts on the rare chances he gets up to share them, because he hasn&#039;t been completely acculturated yet.  It really is fun to hear a testimony in a person&#039;s own words - a sort of spiritual language they are putting together for themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday we had a testimony given by a recent convert.  He&#8217;s a tall African-American gentleman who speaks from the heart.  He&#8217;s been a member for maybe a year.  I always enjoy hearing his prayers and thoughts on the rare chances he gets up to share them, because he hasn&#8217;t been completely acculturated yet.  It really is fun to hear a testimony in a person&#8217;s own words &#8211; a sort of spiritual language they are putting together for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin, I&#039;m going to argue with you about the &quot;not as affecting&quot; conclusion.  The very best testimony I heard yesterday was from a departing senior missionary, who with her husband has served here for 18 months.  (They arrived one month in advance of Katrina.)  Everything about her testimony was straight by the book, but it was one of the most uplifting things I&#039;ve heard in weeks.

Methinks that Holy Ghost guy might have something to do with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I&#8217;m going to argue with you about the &#8220;not as affecting&#8221; conclusion.  The very best testimony I heard yesterday was from a departing senior missionary, who with her husband has served here for 18 months.  (They arrived one month in advance of Katrina.)  Everything about her testimony was straight by the book, but it was one of the most uplifting things I&#8217;ve heard in weeks.</p>
<p>Methinks that Holy Ghost guy might have something to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: UnicornMom</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19400</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronan - I served in the Germany, Munich (than Germany, Munich/Austrian) mission and spent most of my time in the Black Forest.  They say it there all the time without any problem.  Maybe we should salt the Austrians with some good old SchwÃ¤bisch colloquialisms.  I&#039;m in the mood to gender some old-fashioned BestÃ¼rzung.

Maybe I&#039;ll just bear my entire testimony in German.  Nostalgia.  At the very least, it&#039;d wake a few people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronan &#8211; I served in the Germany, Munich (than Germany, Munich/Austrian) mission and spent most of my time in the Black Forest.  They say it there all the time without any problem.  Maybe we should salt the Austrians with some good old SchwÃ¤bisch colloquialisms.  I&#8217;m in the mood to gender some old-fashioned BestÃ¼rzung.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll just bear my entire testimony in German.  Nostalgia.  At the very least, it&#8217;d wake a few people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Graham</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a sociological perspective, testimonis are merely the flip side of teh same coin as apostate narratives, paricularly the atrocity tale.

Some of you might be familiar with Juliann&#039;s off and on comments regarding apostate narratives and the purpose of an atrocity tale. Well, LDS testimonies are essentially the same thing on the other end of the spectrum. They are used to gain acceptance into a particular group, which is probably why we hear it so much from recent converts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a sociological perspective, testimonis are merely the flip side of teh same coin as apostate narratives, paricularly the atrocity tale.</p>
<p>Some of you might be familiar with Juliann&#8217;s off and on comments regarding apostate narratives and the purpose of an atrocity tale. Well, LDS testimonies are essentially the same thing on the other end of the spectrum. They are used to gain acceptance into a particular group, which is probably why we hear it so much from recent converts.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lamonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin wrote - &quot;These speakers donâ€™t quite have the LDS patter down, and itâ€™s a bit of an adventure as to what exactly they are going to say ... but to me that is part of their charm.&quot;

Kevin - I whole-heartedly agree with you.  Isn&#039;t that a welcome indication that we are truly becoming a world-wide church and that members, new and old, are not afraid to inflict their own cultural idiosyncrasies into their (our) faith.  A welcome site and sound in all of our testimony meetings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin wrote &#8211; &#8220;These speakers donâ€™t quite have the LDS patter down, and itâ€™s a bit of an adventure as to what exactly they are going to say &#8230; but to me that is part of their charm.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kevin &#8211; I whole-heartedly agree with you.  Isn&#8217;t that a welcome indication that we are truly becoming a world-wide church and that members, new and old, are not afraid to inflict their own cultural idiosyncrasies into their (our) faith.  A welcome site and sound in all of our testimony meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In fact, I&#039;m adding it to my Mormon guerrilla organisations:

&quot;Saints for Two&quot; (lock the Sunday School classrooms and hide the keys)

&quot;International Mormons Against American Domination&quot; = IMAAD (remove basketball hoops from international cultural halls and replace with locally-appropriate sports equipment; Canadians get a hockey rink, Europeans get soccer goals)

and now,

&quot;Heiligen fÃ¼r GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I&#8217;m adding it to my Mormon guerrilla organisations:</p>
<p>&#8220;Saints for Two&#8221; (lock the Sunday School classrooms and hide the keys)</p>
<p>&#8220;International Mormons Against American Domination&#8221; = IMAAD (remove basketball hoops from international cultural halls and replace with locally-appropriate sports equipment; Canadians get a hockey rink, Europeans get soccer goals)</p>
<p>and now,</p>
<p>&#8220;Heiligen fÃ¼r GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UM,

Don&#039;t say &quot;GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott&quot; in a German-speaking ward. This (charming, IMO) greeting is verboten among Mormons because of the repetition of the word &quot;Gott.&quot; When I was auf Mission people would say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott to us and we would say Guten Tag or GrÃ¼ÃŸ Sie back. It killed me that I couldn&#039;t say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott in Austria. That, along with not being allowed to use Du, were severe annoyances. Now that I live here again I say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott at every opportunity (making up for 2 years&#039; of lame Guten Tags). But I can hardly conjugate Du.

It must be very hard to be an Austrian Mormon and have GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott be unkosher. It would be like banning &quot;hi.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UM,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t say &#8220;GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott&#8221; in a German-speaking ward. This (charming, IMO) greeting is verboten among Mormons because of the repetition of the word &#8220;Gott.&#8221; When I was auf Mission people would say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott to us and we would say Guten Tag or GrÃ¼ÃŸ Sie back. It killed me that I couldn&#8217;t say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott in Austria. That, along with not being allowed to use Du, were severe annoyances. Now that I live here again I say GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott at every opportunity (making up for 2 years&#8217; of lame Guten Tags). But I can hardly conjugate Du.</p>
<p>It must be very hard to be an Austrian Mormon and have GrÃ¼ÃŸ Gott be unkosher. It would be like banning &#8220;hi.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/01/07/testimony-meeting/#comment-19396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, I&#039;m not getting your point.

Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I&#8217;m not getting your point.</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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