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	<title>Comments on: BCC Research Collaboration 1: Sacramental Emblems</title>
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		<title>By: mami</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/02/18/bcc-research-collaboration-1-sacramental-emblems/#comment-83705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what did they do in the US during Prohibiton?

I&#039;ve used ash cakes several times while camping.

&quot;In very early Christianity there is some evidence that the Eucharist was celebrated at graves and ultimately as a part of the liturgy proper, where it has remained to the present day.&quot;

Interesting. Could you please reference this?
 Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what did they do in the US during Prohibiton?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used ash cakes several times while camping.</p>
<p>&#8220;In very early Christianity there is some evidence that the Eucharist was celebrated at graves and ultimately as a part of the liturgy proper, where it has remained to the present day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting. Could you please reference this?<br />
 Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Stapley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just thinking about this, and it seem that the transition from wine to water occurred quite late in the nineteenth century.  I may be reasonable to assume that during the mid nineteenth century there were more people using coconut milk than water for their sacrament.  Perhaps coconut milk played more of a role than the revelation in the move toward water on a practical level?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking about this, and it seem that the transition from wine to water occurred quite late in the nineteenth century.  I may be reasonable to assume that during the mid nineteenth century there were more people using coconut milk than water for their sacrament.  Perhaps coconut milk played more of a role than the revelation in the move toward water on a practical level?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many churches have special glutin-free bread available for people with allergies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many churches have special glutin-free bread available for people with allergies.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and for the girl with celiac disease in our ward, she has to have a special cracker which the Priests bless along with the bread every Sunday for her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and for the girl with celiac disease in our ward, she has to have a special cracker which the Priests bless along with the bread every Sunday for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/02/18/bcc-research-collaboration-1-sacramental-emblems/#comment-83719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 19, When I was a new convert, I was in charge of the sacrament as my first calling, and was asked to only buy plain bread for allergy reasons. I still got the plain wheat bread though, as I can&#039;t stand white bread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 19, When I was a new convert, I was in charge of the sacrament as my first calling, and was asked to only buy plain bread for allergy reasons. I still got the plain wheat bread though, as I can&#8217;t stand white bread.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The use of unleavened bread presumably relates to the possibility that the Last Supper was a Passover Seder (which would have made the original bread unleavened).  It&#039;s an open question whether it really was a Seder; my sense is contemporary scholars are maybe 60/40 against it being an actual Seder, but rather just a pre-Passover meal.  (This is all complicated by the contradiction between the Synoptics and John on the chronology of those events.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of unleavened bread presumably relates to the possibility that the Last Supper was a Passover Seder (which would have made the original bread unleavened).  It&#8217;s an open question whether it really was a Seder; my sense is contemporary scholars are maybe 60/40 against it being an actual Seder, but rather just a pre-Passover meal.  (This is all complicated by the contradiction between the Synoptics and John on the chronology of those events.)</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Stapley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nay, smb, it is my understanding that the crustless wonderbread was white and pure as the lamb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nay, smb, it is my understanding that the crustless wonderbread was white and pure as the lamb.</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cj douglass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I attend church next to a bakery. Uncoincidentally the sacrament bread is always fresh and hearty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attend church next to a bakery. Uncoincidentally the sacrament bread is always fresh and hearty!</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are wonderfully useful responses. 17, my memory tells me that for a time there was a preference in some wards (I believe in the Mormon Corridor) to avoid the textures of real bread in favor of just the central portions of Wonder Bread. Some sense that home-baked or textured bread was somehow aesthetically distracting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are wonderfully useful responses. 17, my memory tells me that for a time there was a preference in some wards (I believe in the Mormon Corridor) to avoid the textures of real bread in favor of just the central portions of Wonder Bread. Some sense that home-baked or textured bread was somehow aesthetically distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Haas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Haas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI, in the time frame you provided, the Catholic Church has specified unleavened bread made with wheat and no other substance mixed in such that it&#039;s no longer wheat bread.  It also should be recently baked to reduce the possibility of corruption.  There was a time when Eastern and Western churches used leavened bread, but in general unleavened bread has been the norm.

Wine must be wine, preferably red.

(unofficial, but accurate, source: http://www.dioceseofgfb.org/Diocesan_%20Policies/ref_eucharistic_bread.htm )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, in the time frame you provided, the Catholic Church has specified unleavened bread made with wheat and no other substance mixed in such that it&#8217;s no longer wheat bread.  It also should be recently baked to reduce the possibility of corruption.  There was a time when Eastern and Western churches used leavened bread, but in general unleavened bread has been the norm.</p>
<p>Wine must be wine, preferably red.</p>
<p>(unofficial, but accurate, source: <a href="http://www.dioceseofgfb.org/Diocesan_%20Policies/ref_eucharistic_bread.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dioceseofgfb.org/Diocesan_%20Policies/ref_eucharistic_bread.htm</a> )</p>
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