Comments on: Interview: Terryl Givens and Richard Bushman, Part I http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/ A Mormon Blog Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:16:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: By Common Consent » Interview: Terryl Givens and Richard Bushman, Part II http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34047 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:39:56 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34047 [...] I of the interview is available here. BCC: What sort of conflicts (social, personal, religious, or professional) do you encounter as [...]

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34045 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:18:22 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34045 Joe, I don’t think you’re understanding what he’s referring to by the term “disapora.” He’s not referring to Missouri. And your sentence about the “bipolar Utah atmosphere” not being normal or acceptable is not only offensive to many, but unprovable. Please keep wild rhetoric in check.

]]> By: Joe Doaks http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34046 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:00:10 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34046 The frank comments of Bushman and Givens are much appreciated, but Bushman’s use of the term “diaspora” is not well-chosen. The Jewish diaspora is in exile from their Holy Promised Land, while Mormon Utah is a temporary refuge or way-station on the path back to Jackson County, Missouri. More important, most LDS intellectuals (including Bushman & Givens) live outside Utah, something which Carl Mosser & Paul Owen had a hard time understanding in their important 1998 article in Trinity Journal. Indeed, life in Provo may tend to lead to insularity and a notion that the bipolar Utah atmosphere is normal and acceptable. Nothing could be further from the truth.

]]> By: Melissa De Leon Mason http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34044 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:37:02 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34044 These seminars are such a great thing. Bushman and Givens are really supporting young scholars and giving them a chance to grow. I hope the series will continue long into the future.

“the strongest faith and the most rigorous scholarship are mutually sustaining.”

Amen.

]]> By: Ronan http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34043 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:21:21 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34043 Terryl,
Have you written a children’s book called, “Dragon Scales and Willow Leaves”?!

]]> By: tracy m http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34026 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:16:29 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34026 Thanks Steve- this is very informative- looking forward to more.

]]> By: Kristine http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34028 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:38:40 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34028 Um, it’s fairly common for retailers to market a book more heavily in the first few weeks after its publication. Nothing nefarious there.

]]> By: Eric Russell http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34029 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:35:50 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34029 larryco_,

Anything that is not published by Deseret Book is fairly quickly “de-emphasized” in Deseret Book bookstores.

]]> By: Clark http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34027 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:09:38 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34027 Ditto to Steve. Especially take a look at Quinn’s entry for Women and Authority which reportedly was the actual text that got him in trouble. I don’t think most would have trouble with most of the paper. It was that last page where he starts drawing implications with clear political aims that I think some get uncomfortable. Agree or disagree with Quinn or those who attacked him. But there is a clear difference there from Bushman. Move into some of the books post-ex communication and there are even more differences. Say the second edition of Magic World View.

I just can’t see Bushman doing a lot of those things even if Bushman might agree with a lot of the historic interpretations.

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/01/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34034 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:59:13 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/03/interview-terryl-givens-and-richard-bushman-part-i/#comment-34034 Larryco_, again — he hasn’t “escaped” scrutiny in the least. Rather, the scrutiny has resulted in praise.

As to why you might not see the book in some locations…. there a host of reasons: 1. It’s transitioning to paperback; 2. They were out of stock; 3. It was elsewhere in the DB locations…. who knows. But nobody has been “de-emphasizing” the book or blacklisting it or anything.

Your comments seem to rest on the presumption that Prof. Bushman’s work and Quinn’s work are the same, or “writing the same information.” That is most definitely not so.

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