The four whitest schools are Olympus, Skyline, Central and Cottonwood. I assume these are all regular public schools.

Why do we care which schools are the “whitest?” As an Olympus alum, I think I’m offended. Who you callin’ “white” homey?

And you’re wrong, Central is not a regular public school.

Central High School is just west of those three high schools. My husband thinks Central is the old Granite High around 7th East and 39th South.

Wrong, and um, so’s your old man, twice.

Vouchers will not help poor parents because they do not provide enough money to make private school affordable. It’s a subsidy for middle and upper class families.

That is correct, but I would add that even middle class families will find it difficult to afford most private school tuition on the voucher amount provided in this bill.

If you required private schools to accept all students regardless of how expensive they are to teach (the case with public schools now), you would have a point.

Sam, this doesn’t make any sense. My point was that vouchers function like Pell Grants. Pell Grants don’t cover tuition at most universities; at most schools it’s only a minor subsidy. Furthermore, Pell Grants and government loans are accepted at schools that *reject a majority of applicants.*

If you accept the morality of Pell Grants and government aid, even at universities that deny “expensive” students, is there any basis for opposing grants at the K-12 level?

Several commenters have said that it’s the compulsory nature of K-10 education that’s different (students can drop out at 16), but that’s just a blanket anti-private and anti-home schooling argument. (Why let kids opt out of the public system when they’re rich and dumb, but not when they’re poor and smart?)

California has the most, of course: 625
Arizona 466 (this is the state that has really jumped on charter schools.

Massachusetts has 59
New York has 98
Texas has 269
Utah has 54

So generally speaking, “liberal” states seem to be allowing charter schools (with New York lagging). The most interesting numbers are from traditionally conservative states like Mississippi, Virginia, Wyoming, Tennessee, and Oklahoma.

Mississippi has 1
Virginia has 4
Wyoming has 3
Tennessee has 12
Oklahoma has 15

More:

Iowa has 7

What “liberal” state has the fewest? It seems Rhode Island does, with a mere 11 (though in comparison to Tennessee (12), Rhode Island has far more per capita.

Basically what I’m saying is, can we stop taking swipes at liberals for supposedly being against charter schools?

#69,

Lastly, states with lots of minorities (which tend to be Democratic) tend to heavily restrict charter schools, presumably due to pressure from teacher’s unions. Thus individuals in minority groups tend to want charter schools, but they have trouble getting them thanks to all the liberals worrying about community and helping one’s brother.

Can you show evidence of this? I believe that Washington DC (which voted like 90% for Kerry in 2004) has the most charter schools per capita. I know Massachusetts, Rhode Island and California have a bunch as well.

A caveat– some charter/private schools don’t participate in the federal lunch program because they have no cafeteria, just a gym, thus the “0% free or reduced…” numbers for them are almost certainly because they are not reporting anything, rather than because they have no poor among them.