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		<title>By: Mike Knutt</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148860</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m interested in some kind of online journaling tool. I find my paper journals go largely unused.
A friend of mine sent me a link a couple days ago to www.journalanywhere.com. I&#039;ve been using it and it seems pretty cool - but as I say, I&#039;m new to it. I&#039;m in email like 24/7 so I love being able to just send an email to add to my private journal.
I&#039;d love to hear impressions from other people of this or other online journal tools or services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in some kind of online journaling tool. I find my paper journals go largely unused.<br />
A friend of mine sent me a link a couple days ago to <a href="http://www.journalanywhere.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.journalanywhere.com</a>. I&#8217;ve been using it and it seems pretty cool &#8211; but as I say, I&#8217;m new to it. I&#8217;m in email like 24/7 so I love being able to just send an email to add to my private journal.<br />
I&#8217;d love to hear impressions from other people of this or other online journal tools or services.</p>
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		<title>By: Elouise</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148859</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, my! I feel a bit as I did years ago when my eight-year old nephew asked, &quot;Did you ever read anything by C.S. Lewis?&quot;  I knew that in my enthusiasm for the subject, I was in danger of swamping him. But yours is a fascinating subect, Liz:  I&#039;ll do my best to keep my response short. . .uh, short&lt;em&gt;ish&lt;/em&gt;.

Whenever I have led workshops on journal-writing, especially in church settings, women have always said, &quot;How can I really write what I feel in my journal? I don&#039;t want my grandchildren to know that I did X or felt Y.&quot;

I had two favorite answers: first, if we&#039;re realistic, we know that our posterity will MAYBE thumb through our journals for an hour some rainy Sunday years hence. That hour (and our standing with said posterity) might actually be considerably enlivened if the journals offer a few sentences about our struggle with X or Y.

The other answer included a true story about a mother in eastern Utah whose 16-year old daughter was dating a boy the family seriously opposed. Much anguish, lots of wailing and admonition, and slammed doors were involved. Tension, resentment, threats, the full catastrophe.

One day, Daughter happened to be looking for something in her mother&#039;s attic closet, and came upon a journal Mom had written when &lt;em&gt;she&lt;/em&gt; was sixteen. Daughter, angry to begin with, defiantly read some of the journal (which she ordinarily wouldn&#039;t have done without permission).  And lo and behold--guess who had been dating a very disreputable boy, much against the parental wishes, all those years ago?

Daughter went downstairs with the open journal in her hand. &quot;Mother? MOTHER!&quot;  What followed was embarrassment, some stammering, then a little laughter, then a lot of laughter, followed by the  most open conversation the two had ever had.

The history of journal-keeping is marvelously rich, and makes wonderful reading. In the past 30 years or so, a strong current of highly personal, highly exploratory journaling has grown in force, and that was the focus of most of the classes I taught on the subject. A branch of that is journaling as an impetus or source for creative writing, which I would wager is what my esteemed colleague John Bennion promotes.

A separate current would be the important tradition of journal-writing as personal history and testimony. This current has its own protocols, outstanding examples, and patterns. Most of all, it has a different purpose.

Folklore scholarand retired BYU professor Bert Wilson (William A.) kept a faithful journal all through his mission, decades ago. He also wrote a weekly letter to his mother. The comparison of the two records, he tells us, is revealing. Most of us could guess which is the more interesting and readable. But of course each is valuable.

Best wishes as you resolve this matter, Liz!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my! I feel a bit as I did years ago when my eight-year old nephew asked, &#8220;Did you ever read anything by C.S. Lewis?&#8221;  I knew that in my enthusiasm for the subject, I was in danger of swamping him. But yours is a fascinating subect, Liz:  I&#8217;ll do my best to keep my response short. . .uh, short<em>ish</em>.</p>
<p>Whenever I have led workshops on journal-writing, especially in church settings, women have always said, &#8220;How can I really write what I feel in my journal? I don&#8217;t want my grandchildren to know that I did X or felt Y.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had two favorite answers: first, if we&#8217;re realistic, we know that our posterity will MAYBE thumb through our journals for an hour some rainy Sunday years hence. That hour (and our standing with said posterity) might actually be considerably enlivened if the journals offer a few sentences about our struggle with X or Y.</p>
<p>The other answer included a true story about a mother in eastern Utah whose 16-year old daughter was dating a boy the family seriously opposed. Much anguish, lots of wailing and admonition, and slammed doors were involved. Tension, resentment, threats, the full catastrophe.</p>
<p>One day, Daughter happened to be looking for something in her mother&#8217;s attic closet, and came upon a journal Mom had written when <em>she</em> was sixteen. Daughter, angry to begin with, defiantly read some of the journal (which she ordinarily wouldn&#8217;t have done without permission).  And lo and behold&#8211;guess who had been dating a very disreputable boy, much against the parental wishes, all those years ago?</p>
<p>Daughter went downstairs with the open journal in her hand. &#8220;Mother? MOTHER!&#8221;  What followed was embarrassment, some stammering, then a little laughter, then a lot of laughter, followed by the  most open conversation the two had ever had.</p>
<p>The history of journal-keeping is marvelously rich, and makes wonderful reading. In the past 30 years or so, a strong current of highly personal, highly exploratory journaling has grown in force, and that was the focus of most of the classes I taught on the subject. A branch of that is journaling as an impetus or source for creative writing, which I would wager is what my esteemed colleague John Bennion promotes.</p>
<p>A separate current would be the important tradition of journal-writing as personal history and testimony. This current has its own protocols, outstanding examples, and patterns. Most of all, it has a different purpose.</p>
<p>Folklore scholarand retired BYU professor Bert Wilson (William A.) kept a faithful journal all through his mission, decades ago. He also wrote a weekly letter to his mother. The comparison of the two records, he tells us, is revealing. Most of us could guess which is the more interesting and readable. But of course each is valuable.</p>
<p>Best wishes as you resolve this matter, Liz!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Muir</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Muir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12:

&lt;em&gt;I probably should have a historical journal â€œfor my posterity,â€ but I would probably write in that less than I do the journal I have now, so whatâ€™s the point?&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s another problem.  I can&#039;t motivate myself to write enough detail that they would actually understand what&#039;s going on.  Too much work.]]></description>
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<p><em>I probably should have a historical journal â€œfor my posterity,â€ but I would probably write in that less than I do the journal I have now, so whatâ€™s the point?</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s another problem.  I can&#8217;t motivate myself to write enough detail that they would actually understand what&#8217;s going on.  Too much work.</p>
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		<title>By: cmac</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liz, I am insanely jealous, but also excited for you.
So, Nehpi did the whole two journals thing. One set of plates for the spiritual and another for the historic. So, maybe we ougth to have two journals-- as many people have said they do. I have a scrapbook-- which I actually haven&#039;t finished-- I&#039;m still working on the high school pages. And my written journal contains a little of both. So, I could be better at writing in my journal, but I think blogging partially fills that requirement. even though I contain some historical details-- like writing about september 11th when it happened-- I would be mortified if anyone every read my journals. I probably should have a historical journal &quot;for my posterity,&quot; but I would probably write in that less than I do the journal I have now, so what&#039;s the point? Then I would just be killing a tree.

So, good luck with your journal-keeping endeavors. You&#039;re going to have such an awesome time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, I am insanely jealous, but also excited for you.<br />
So, Nehpi did the whole two journals thing. One set of plates for the spiritual and another for the historic. So, maybe we ougth to have two journals&#8211; as many people have said they do. I have a scrapbook&#8211; which I actually haven&#8217;t finished&#8211; I&#8217;m still working on the high school pages. And my written journal contains a little of both. So, I could be better at writing in my journal, but I think blogging partially fills that requirement. even though I contain some historical details&#8211; like writing about september 11th when it happened&#8211; I would be mortified if anyone every read my journals. I probably should have a historical journal &#8220;for my posterity,&#8221; but I would probably write in that less than I do the journal I have now, so what&#8217;s the point? Then I would just be killing a tree.</p>
<p>So, good luck with your journal-keeping endeavors. You&#8217;re going to have such an awesome time!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Muir</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Muir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[10:

Actually, we&#039;re doing a sort of &quot;walking and writing&quot; in England thing, so we start up in Scotland and walk all over literary related places, finally ending up in London for the last few weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10:</p>
<p>Actually, we&#8217;re doing a sort of &#8220;walking and writing&#8221; in England thing, so we start up in Scotland and walk all over literary related places, finally ending up in London for the last few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a huge believer in journals for reasons too complex to cover here. Right now my life is too jampacked for fiction or poetry writing, so my journals are my literary outlet. I keep four journals, more or less.

The first is just a daily record: very briefly what happened and how I felt. I carry it with me and jot in it on the bus, at lunch, etc. The point is to keep everything preserved as I fall behind on my main journal(s)and need to catch up...but it&#039;s interesting in its own right because it has little reflection, mostly gut reaction.

The second is the Book of Me, a name I cribbed from my sister when I started it at age 8. It is inspiring, heartbreaking, shocking and ridiculous. Some years have only six entries and there are runs of months where I do an entry every day or two. I have read pieces to my wife and will read pieces to my kids, but they are locked away generally.

The third is the Book of the Sublime. I started doing this a few winters ago when I was slipping into depression. It is a (nearly) daily record of what I find that I should be thankful for, or what I find beautiful or even just nice.  Yes, that was an element of my Me journal, but it needed drawing out, and now its a great thing to have. It is an open book for my wife, usually indcuing tears.

The fourth is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnkilmer.com/what/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a half-hearted attempt at blogging&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t really have time for it, but I need a space to put stuff that I bring up in my classes that kids find funny and interesting, then I can never remember again. Of course, I haven&#039;t really done that yet, but we&#039;ll see...

Good luck with the trip. Are you staying at the BYU house in London? I lived a few blocks away and can give a few tips.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge believer in journals for reasons too complex to cover here. Right now my life is too jampacked for fiction or poetry writing, so my journals are my literary outlet. I keep four journals, more or less.</p>
<p>The first is just a daily record: very briefly what happened and how I felt. I carry it with me and jot in it on the bus, at lunch, etc. The point is to keep everything preserved as I fall behind on my main journal(s)and need to catch up&#8230;but it&#8217;s interesting in its own right because it has little reflection, mostly gut reaction.</p>
<p>The second is the Book of Me, a name I cribbed from my sister when I started it at age 8. It is inspiring, heartbreaking, shocking and ridiculous. Some years have only six entries and there are runs of months where I do an entry every day or two. I have read pieces to my wife and will read pieces to my kids, but they are locked away generally.</p>
<p>The third is the Book of the Sublime. I started doing this a few winters ago when I was slipping into depression. It is a (nearly) daily record of what I find that I should be thankful for, or what I find beautiful or even just nice.  Yes, that was an element of my Me journal, but it needed drawing out, and now its a great thing to have. It is an open book for my wife, usually indcuing tears.</p>
<p>The fourth is <a href="http://www.mnkilmer.com/what/" rel="nofollow">a half-hearted attempt at blogging</a>. I don&#8217;t really have time for it, but I need a space to put stuff that I bring up in my classes that kids find funny and interesting, then I can never remember again. Of course, I haven&#8217;t really done that yet, but we&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
<p>Good luck with the trip. Are you staying at the BYU house in London? I lived a few blocks away and can give a few tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin, that&#039;s just weird. I wrote to my then fiance everyday as my Journal, and mailed it to her once a week. I think it helped me to have someone to write to, else I wouldn&#039;t have done it. I did also have a notebook where I keep notes about what I was studying in my scriptures, but it was notes, not a journal.

My Journal writing is pretty bad now. I like to think of it as writing my prayers down, but I just don&#039;t pray very well in this way, it seems...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, that&#8217;s just weird. I wrote to my then fiance everyday as my Journal, and mailed it to her once a week. I think it helped me to have someone to write to, else I wouldn&#8217;t have done it. I did also have a notebook where I keep notes about what I was studying in my scriptures, but it was notes, not a journal.</p>
<p>My Journal writing is pretty bad now. I like to think of it as writing my prayers down, but I just don&#8217;t pray very well in this way, it seems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like we&#039;ve unearthed a previously unexplored topic here: the politics of Mormon journal writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like we&#8217;ve unearthed a previously unexplored topic here: the politics of Mormon journal writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew more than one missionary who kept two journals; the public one he would keep on the desk for snooping zone leaders to find and peruse, and the real one he would keep well hidden away from prying eyes.

I was never that paranoid nor ambitious; I just kept one journal, which was sort of a cross between an account of what I was doing and self therapy.

My missionary journal was very open about what I did and what I was feeling, and if Richard Dutcher made it into a movie, by Mormon standards it would have to be rated PG-13 at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew more than one missionary who kept two journals; the public one he would keep on the desk for snooping zone leaders to find and peruse, and the real one he would keep well hidden away from prying eyes.</p>
<p>I was never that paranoid nor ambitious; I just kept one journal, which was sort of a cross between an account of what I was doing and self therapy.</p>
<p>My missionary journal was very open about what I did and what I was feeling, and if Richard Dutcher made it into a movie, by Mormon standards it would have to be rated PG-13 at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Muir</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/03/journaling-and-authenticity/#comment-148851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Muir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connor:  Yay for Orwell and dystopian fiction!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connor:  Yay for Orwell and dystopian fiction!</p>
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