Comments on: Sit-in at BYU’s JFSB Quad http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/ A Mormon Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:02:51 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Stirling http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127132 Stirling Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:30:07 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127132 Steve, If you've posted 18 times on one thread, aren't you estopped from telling others "move along and get a life?" :) It also seems odd to close the thread, but since I'm a guest here, I'll acquiesce. Steve, If you’ve posted 18 times on one thread, aren’t you estopped from telling others “move along and get a life?” :)

It also seems odd to close the thread, but since I’m a guest here, I’ll acquiesce.

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127131 Steve Evans Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:35:08 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127131 Latter-Day Guy, that's not quite what Darrell said. First, he implied that the Khmer Rouge and the killing fields were the result of U.S. "capitulation" in Vietnam. That's sketchy history AT BEST. Second, he implies that protesting against Dick Cheney may have a similar effect as the massive unified protest against the Vietnam war, which is patently ridiculous. Underlying all of his remarks is a thinly veiled ominous tone (not to mention condescension: "Do your college thing"?? Puhleeze). So yes, I dismissed him with brief mockery. That's all he deserved. It was far from thoughtful. Seth, ultimately I couldn't understand either. Closing the thread now -- move along and get lives, folks. Latter-Day Guy, that’s not quite what Darrell said. First, he implied that the Khmer Rouge and the killing fields were the result of U.S. “capitulation” in Vietnam. That’s sketchy history AT BEST. Second, he implies that protesting against Dick Cheney may have a similar effect as the massive unified protest against the Vietnam war, which is patently ridiculous. Underlying all of his remarks is a thinly veiled ominous tone (not to mention condescension: “Do your college thing”?? Puhleeze).

So yes, I dismissed him with brief mockery. That’s all he deserved. It was far from thoughtful.

Seth, ultimately I couldn’t understand either.

Closing the thread now — move along and get lives, folks.

]]> By: XXIII http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127130 XXIII Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:34:04 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127130 "Political Dialogue. Isn't it about time?" That was the text of one of the signs. Because I agree with the sentiment, I enjoyed the event. However, I think I'm of the opinion that the day when Cheney is actually speaking on campus, the better path to political dialogue is to listen to what he has to say, and then separately respond (in various places) instead of trying to make a point at the commencement itself. “Political Dialogue. Isn’t it about time?”

That was the text of one of the signs. Because I agree with the sentiment, I enjoyed the event.

However, I think I’m of the opinion that the day when Cheney is actually speaking on campus, the better path to political dialogue is to listen to what he has to say, and then separately respond (in various places) instead of trying to make a point at the commencement itself.

]]> By: Seth R. http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127129 Seth R. Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:26:55 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127129 What exactly are Steve and jimbob arguing about? I've read through it, and I confess, I don't really get it. What exactly are Steve and jimbob arguing about? I’ve read through it, and I confess, I don’t really get it.

]]> By: Latter-day Guy http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127128 Latter-day Guy Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:24:57 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127128 Wow, Steve, I love how you totally dismissed a thoughtful point with mockery! Chino, way to twist those words man! Darrell wasn't saying never to protest, but to consider that your actions in the political sphere may have far-reaching and surprising consequences. He was saying to really examine the issues carefully, because your decisions <em>matter</em>. Hasn't this blog defended the protest as a significant act? Didn't it get fairly good press coverage? Now are we saying that it will be of no effect? Or just that it's impossible for passionate BYU Deomocrats' actions to have any negative consequences? Wow, Steve, I love how you totally dismissed a thoughtful point with mockery!

Chino, way to twist those words man!

Darrell wasn’t saying never to protest, but to consider that your actions in the political sphere may have far-reaching and surprising consequences. He was saying to really examine the issues carefully, because your decisions matter.

Hasn’t this blog defended the protest as a significant act? Didn’t it get fairly good press coverage? Now are we saying that it will be of no effect? Or just that it’s impossible for passionate BYU Deomocrats’ actions to have any negative consequences?

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127127 Chino Blanco Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:14:41 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127127 XXVI - You've given my life new purpose, you WILL see that sign come Commencement, cheers! XXVI – You’ve given my life new purpose, you WILL see that sign come Commencement, cheers!

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127126 Chino Blanco Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:10:16 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127126 Steve, I understand and suppose you're right. Still, you see how much untapped potential is out there ... XXVI's <i>Bush-Cheney: “Secret comibinations R-US.”</i> incorporates exactly the kind of Mormon cultural reference that brings a smile to my face, as I suppose it would to others ... Steve,

I understand and suppose you’re right.

Still, you see how much untapped potential is out there …

XXVI’s Bush-Cheney: “Secret comibinations R-US.” incorporates exactly the kind of Mormon cultural reference that brings a smile to my face, as I suppose it would to others …

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127125 Chino Blanco Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:03:47 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127125 Geez, Darrell, should I be afraid to leave the house now? If I decide to take that new job, might I somehow be strengthening the junta's hand in Myanmar? Nevermind the new job's in Des Moines, I gotta keep in mind that all my small acts lead to unimaginable - and potentially genocidal - consequences ... Do you see any situation where a protest against anything might be of some positive value? As far as I can tell, in your world, we should condemn the Boston Tea Party because it somehow led to the use of Agent Orange in Indochina. Geez, Darrell, should I be afraid to leave the house now? If I decide to take that new job, might I somehow be strengthening the junta’s hand in Myanmar? Nevermind the new job’s in Des Moines, I gotta keep in mind that all my small acts lead to unimaginable – and potentially genocidal – consequences …

Do you see any situation where a protest against anything might be of some positive value? As far as I can tell, in your world, we should condemn the Boston Tea Party because it somehow led to the use of Agent Orange in Indochina.

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127124 Steve Evans Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:58:14 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127124 Chino, I don't think so. BCC is a blog for liberal mormons, I suppose, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a given political affiliation. Chino, I don’t think so. BCC is a blog for liberal mormons, I suppose, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to a given political affiliation.

]]> By: Steve Evans http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127123 Steve Evans Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:57:28 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/04/sit-in-at-byus-jfsb-quad/#comment-127123 Thanks, Darth Wyatt, er, I mean, A Cheney Supporter. Thanks, Darth Wyatt, er, I mean, A Cheney Supporter.

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