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		<title>By: Kevin Christensen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Christensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I met Alyson at a few inservice meetings when we both lived in Lawrence, KS, though in different wards meeting in the same building. Her husband became the Bishop of their ward.  I believe she has five children and at least one University degree. She got interested in Margaret Barker&#039;s The Great Angel around the same time I did (1999) when we were both teaching institute classes. By sheer persistance and enthusiasm, and she managed to get herself included in the May 2003 Barker Seminar at BYU.  She has an Occasional Paper on Wisdom Teaching in the Book of Mormon forthcoming from FARMS, hopefully this year. It&#039;s a fresh vision, bringing out things no one had thought of seeing in the Book of Mormon before.

And yes, the offering stand is the one from Tannach, around 1200 BCE, as I recall.  She looks at it in light of her own close observations of the artistic depictions on the stand in comparison to Barker&#039;s close reading of the Hebrew text of Ezekiel&#039;s visions, and also to key imagery in the Book of Enoch.  I&#039;ve encouraged her to send a copy to Dever when the Review comes out.  According to Shirley Ricks, her review is the &quot;most reviewed&quot; essay in terms of the number of people reading it, that they&#039;ve ever had in the FARMS Review.

Kevin Christensen
Pittsburgh, PA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met Alyson at a few inservice meetings when we both lived in Lawrence, KS, though in different wards meeting in the same building. Her husband became the Bishop of their ward.  I believe she has five children and at least one University degree. She got interested in Margaret Barker&#8217;s The Great Angel around the same time I did (1999) when we were both teaching institute classes. By sheer persistance and enthusiasm, and she managed to get herself included in the May 2003 Barker Seminar at BYU.  She has an Occasional Paper on Wisdom Teaching in the Book of Mormon forthcoming from FARMS, hopefully this year. It&#8217;s a fresh vision, bringing out things no one had thought of seeing in the Book of Mormon before.</p>
<p>And yes, the offering stand is the one from Tannach, around 1200 BCE, as I recall.  She looks at it in light of her own close observations of the artistic depictions on the stand in comparison to Barker&#8217;s close reading of the Hebrew text of Ezekiel&#8217;s visions, and also to key imagery in the Book of Enoch.  I&#8217;ve encouraged her to send a copy to Dever when the Review comes out.  According to Shirley Ricks, her review is the &#8220;most reviewed&#8221; essay in terms of the number of people reading it, that they&#8217;ve ever had in the FARMS Review.</p>
<p>Kevin Christensen<br />
Pittsburgh, PA</p>
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		<title>By: jupiterschild</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20639</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin C.,

Do you (or anyone) know what Von Feldt&#039;s background is? The terracotta offering stand (I assume you&#039;re talking about the one from Taanach) is interesting--I&#039;ve never seen a convincing interpretation of it and I&#039;m interested in what Von Feldt has to say about it. Tx.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin C.,</p>
<p>Do you (or anyone) know what Von Feldt&#8217;s background is? The terracotta offering stand (I assume you&#8217;re talking about the one from Taanach) is interesting&#8211;I&#8217;ve never seen a convincing interpretation of it and I&#8217;m interested in what Von Feldt has to say about it. Tx.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Larsen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Larsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I realize that Mormon apologetics is something of a minority taste among participants in the Bloggernacle.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To the degree that this is true it is most surely an error. Even if you disagree with the majority of what FAIR or FARMS publishes, it is surely best to maintain some level of communication with them -- if nothing else just to understand what these groups are up to.

Please continue to keep us up-to-date with what FARMS and FAIR are doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>I realize that Mormon apologetics is something of a minority taste among participants in the Bloggernacle.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>To the degree that this is true it is most surely an error. Even if you disagree with the majority of what FAIR or FARMS publishes, it is surely best to maintain some level of communication with them &#8212; if nothing else just to understand what these groups are up to.</p>
<p>Please continue to keep us up-to-date with what FARMS and FAIR are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: g.wesley</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20637</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the ashurst-mcgee article first appeared elsewhere (jmh?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the ashurst-mcgee article first appeared elsewhere (jmh?).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Christensen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Christensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a side note on the forthcoming FR, I have read the essay by Alyson Von Feldt, which is a review of William Dever&#039;s Did God Have a Wife?  Beyond locating his book in the current discussions and noting the relevance to LDS thought, she brings in some materials that Dever overlooked, and as a result makes some observations on a key artifact depicted in Dever&#039;s book (the terra cotta offering stand that he gives only two or three sentences) that is mindblowing and important, with far reaching implications.

IMHO the FARMS Review has been far and away the most essential and consistently good LDS journal for years.  The recent essays by Ashurst McGee and Larry Morris, for instance were both amazing.

Kevin Christensen
Pittsburgh, PA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a side note on the forthcoming FR, I have read the essay by Alyson Von Feldt, which is a review of William Dever&#8217;s Did God Have a Wife?  Beyond locating his book in the current discussions and noting the relevance to LDS thought, she brings in some materials that Dever overlooked, and as a result makes some observations on a key artifact depicted in Dever&#8217;s book (the terra cotta offering stand that he gives only two or three sentences) that is mindblowing and important, with far reaching implications.</p>
<p>IMHO the FARMS Review has been far and away the most essential and consistently good LDS journal for years.  The recent essays by Ashurst McGee and Larry Morris, for instance were both amazing.</p>
<p>Kevin Christensen<br />
Pittsburgh, PA</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 07:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was surprised by the last paragraph as well. Good for Louis Midgley.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised by the last paragraph as well. Good for Louis Midgley.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL.  I did to the SMPT conference but only a few people asked for it.  Maybe this time I&#039;ll set up a table and sell the chocolate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  I did to the SMPT conference but only a few people asked for it.  Maybe this time I&#8217;ll set up a table and sell the chocolate?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring some chocolate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring some chocolate.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Goble</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Goble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to try and make it this year.  I have to confess I&#039;ve not made it in prior years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to try and make it this year.  I have to confess I&#8217;ve not made it in prior years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/05/23/forthcoming-from-fair-and-farms/#comment-20631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 18:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have only been to the FAIR conference once, but it was great.  Can&#039;t tell if I&#039;ll be able to make it this year or not, but fwiw, I am in the &#039;nacle and I don&#039;t have any antipathy against apologetics.  Good last paragraph from Midgley.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only been to the FAIR conference once, but it was great.  Can&#8217;t tell if I&#8217;ll be able to make it this year or not, but fwiw, I am in the &#8216;nacle and I don&#8217;t have any antipathy against apologetics.  Good last paragraph from Midgley.</p>
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