<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: A Missionary&#8217;s View of the 1978 Revelation</title>
	<atom:link href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/</link>
	<description>A Mormon Blog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 13:52:06 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: CS Eric</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CS Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20874</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The day of the announcement of the Revelation was one of those &quot;I remember where I was when&quot; moments.  I was at my first baptism of my mission in Seoul, Korea, so I still didn&#039;t understand much of what was going on at the ceremony at the mission home.  I do remember my mission president, a heavyset man, running--almost dancing--down to the chapel where he first heard the news.

Since there are few blacks in Korea, this news didn&#039;t really have any effect on me until I came back home, but by then it was old news.  Hard to imagine, after it had been such a big issue for several years before that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day of the announcement of the Revelation was one of those &#8220;I remember where I was when&#8221; moments.  I was at my first baptism of my mission in Seoul, Korea, so I still didn&#8217;t understand much of what was going on at the ceremony at the mission home.  I do remember my mission president, a heavyset man, running&#8211;almost dancing&#8211;down to the chapel where he first heard the news.</p>
<p>Since there are few blacks in Korea, this news didn&#8217;t really have any effect on me until I came back home, but by then it was old news.  Hard to imagine, after it had been such a big issue for several years before that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20873</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Margaret is of course right.  It was HUGE news, the kind that resulted in programs on TV being interrupted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaret is of course right.  It was HUGE news, the kind that resulted in programs on TV being interrupted.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Margaret Young</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margaret Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20872</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Was it national news??  I don&#039;t think I can express my answer strongly enough.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m allowed to say hell on this blog, but if I WERE allowed, I&#039;d say HELL YES.
President Carter worked with Mormons on how he should respond.  I have some of the newspapers from that remarkable day (including Carter&#039;s response).  My co-author met with someone who had flown in from another location on June 9th 1978, and the revelation was announced ON THE PLANE before landing.
And remember, I heard it in Mexico. INTERNATIONAL news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it national news??  I don&#8217;t think I can express my answer strongly enough.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m allowed to say hell on this blog, but if I WERE allowed, I&#8217;d say HELL YES.<br />
President Carter worked with Mormons on how he should respond.  I have some of the newspapers from that remarkable day (including Carter&#8217;s response).  My co-author met with someone who had flown in from another location on June 9th 1978, and the revelation was announced ON THE PLANE before landing.<br />
And remember, I heard it in Mexico. INTERNATIONAL news.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20871</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Re #17, Ruffin Bridgeforth was quoted in the press in June 1978 as expressing his belief that the revelation &quot;may be a sign that we are approaching the end of time, a state of time of which the Bible speaks.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #17, Ruffin Bridgeforth was quoted in the press in June 1978 as expressing his belief that the revelation &#8220;may be a sign that we are approaching the end of time, a state of time of which the Bible speaks.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gavin Guillaume</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavin Guillaume]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20870</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I meant to post the following here originally, but I had multiple browsers up and accidentally posted it into another thread:





#

I was baptized in September 1978 (I had been 8 a few months). Another 8-year-old, an African-American boy, was baptized the same day.

I wish I could remember exactly if he was baptized by his father or by another ward member. My memory wants to tell me that he was baptized by his father, which probably would have been a hugely historic moment for that part of the US.

The 1978 revelation was never directly discussed in our home until we were all in college (in the 1990s). There was also no discussion of racism, etc. My parents wouldnâ€™t have been the types to have dwelt on it much â€” my mother was probably sheltered from exposure to black people. My father, on the other hand, often recalls the fact that he was one of the few white people in his neighborhood in Michigan when he was in grad school in the 1960s.

I really wish I had been knowledgeable of the events of the time, but I was a bit young.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to post the following here originally, but I had multiple browsers up and accidentally posted it into another thread:</p>
<p>#</p>
<p>I was baptized in September 1978 (I had been 8 a few months). Another 8-year-old, an African-American boy, was baptized the same day.</p>
<p>I wish I could remember exactly if he was baptized by his father or by another ward member. My memory wants to tell me that he was baptized by his father, which probably would have been a hugely historic moment for that part of the US.</p>
<p>The 1978 revelation was never directly discussed in our home until we were all in college (in the 1990s). There was also no discussion of racism, etc. My parents wouldnâ€™t have been the types to have dwelt on it much â€” my mother was probably sheltered from exposure to black people. My father, on the other hand, often recalls the fact that he was one of the few white people in his neighborhood in Michigan when he was in grad school in the 1960s.</p>
<p>I really wish I had been knowledgeable of the events of the time, but I was a bit young.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jjohnsen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jjohnsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20869</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Was it national news?  When he says people heard it on the radio, were you serving in a large LDS population Kevin?  OR was it national news that in 2007 would have a &#039;special report&#039; banner on CNN.  I was only four at the time, so I can&#039;t remember.  I keep meaning to ask my parents though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it national news?  When he says people heard it on the radio, were you serving in a large LDS population Kevin?  OR was it national news that in 2007 would have a &#8216;special report&#8217; banner on CNN.  I was only four at the time, so I can&#8217;t remember.  I keep meaning to ask my parents though.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Capt. Obsidian</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt. Obsidian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20849</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[For those interested in the subject, might I recommend &quot;In the Lord&#039;s Due Time&quot; by Joseph Freeman.  Joseph Freeman was the first black person to receive the priesthood after the ban was lifted. The book is his autobiography.  It details how he agonized over giving up a ministry in another church to join one in which he was banned from the ministry, even though he was certain that God had called him to be a minister.  It is definitely an interesting read if you can find a copy (sadly, it is out of print).

As a side note, Joseph Freeman is currently a Bishop in our stake (in SLC, UT).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in the subject, might I recommend &#8220;In the Lord&#8217;s Due Time&#8221; by Joseph Freeman.  Joseph Freeman was the first black person to receive the priesthood after the ban was lifted. The book is his autobiography.  It details how he agonized over giving up a ministry in another church to join one in which he was banned from the ministry, even though he was certain that God had called him to be a minister.  It is definitely an interesting read if you can find a copy (sadly, it is out of print).</p>
<p>As a side note, Joseph Freeman is currently a Bishop in our stake (in SLC, UT).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20850</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[#18: Let&#039;s start with loving Gay Families. My young Granddaugther was on a T-ball team. Clearly (to me) one of the set of parents was two Gay ladies, who felt a need to sit far from the other parents: not right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18: Let&#8217;s start with loving Gay Families. My young Granddaugther was on a T-ball team. Clearly (to me) one of the set of parents was two Gay ladies, who felt a need to sit far from the other parents: not right.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20851</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t a member of the church at the time, so I have no recollections about the ending of the ban, but Margaret&#039;s story prompts me to tell a story about race in my family history.

My family lived in Montgomery before the bus boycott (though that was before I was born).  My mother was a civil rights sympathizer, though none of her family were.  She loved  William Faulkner, who had a genius to show people as they really are, incluing many black and female characters such as those in &quot;Intruder in the Dust&quot; or &quot;The Unvanquished&quot;.  I guess from reading him, and Tolstoy, and Dostoyevsky, and other writers my mom thought seriously about how things were then in the South and in our country, and realized something was badly wrong.

Back then everyone rode the bus, white and black, and most families had only one car.  She told me how the white bus drivers would make a game of insulting and belittling blacks.  She said she had seen more than once an African American woman running to catch the bus only to get right to the door and have it slammed in her face.  The woman would likely have been working all day in some white family&#039;s house, often hard manual labor like scrubbing floors, and missing this bus would mean a long weary wait for the next one.

Another thing they did was leave the movable signs separating the white from black section far toward the back, even if the blacks behind the sign were standing on top of each other and there were many empty seats in the white section in the front.  All these things used to make my mother angry.  She was a young mother then and didn&#039;t realize she should speak up and take responsibility for things like that, so she fumed in silence.  When the boycott finally came she was delighted to see it happen.

Much later I watched a PBS series &quot;Eyes on the Prize&quot;, and became fascinated with the history of the Civil Rights movement.  So much of it happened right here in my hometown.  I drove downtown after one episode and looked at the A.G.Gaston Motel still there where MLK miraculously survived a bomb blast, Kelly Ingram Park where black children protesters were set upon by guard dogs and fire hoses, and the 16th St. Baptist Church where the four little girls were killed by a bomb.  Everyone should come to Birmingham and see this stuff!  We have the Civil Rights Institute now and a statue to MLK.  Like Diane Nash said, it was just regular people, who decided they&#039;d had enough, so with God&#039;s help and amazing courage and fortitude, they just did it.  It didn&#039;t take a charismatic leader to get it started.  Just plain old ordinary people.

I remember in my youth, how bad things were then.  I remember our unfair, unjust, violent, sad two-tiered society.  By God&#039;s grace and the grace and courage of all the civil rights protesters, our society was spared an endless Palestine-type or Northern Ireland-type violent struggle.  We&#039;ve come so far.  And it was done simply by ordinary people standing up for what&#039;s right.  I feel so inspired whenever I think about it or study it.  We can do the same thing now!  Why do we think the work is over?  There&#039;s so much left to be done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t a member of the church at the time, so I have no recollections about the ending of the ban, but Margaret&#8217;s story prompts me to tell a story about race in my family history.</p>
<p>My family lived in Montgomery before the bus boycott (though that was before I was born).  My mother was a civil rights sympathizer, though none of her family were.  She loved  William Faulkner, who had a genius to show people as they really are, incluing many black and female characters such as those in &#8220;Intruder in the Dust&#8221; or &#8220;The Unvanquished&#8221;.  I guess from reading him, and Tolstoy, and Dostoyevsky, and other writers my mom thought seriously about how things were then in the South and in our country, and realized something was badly wrong.</p>
<p>Back then everyone rode the bus, white and black, and most families had only one car.  She told me how the white bus drivers would make a game of insulting and belittling blacks.  She said she had seen more than once an African American woman running to catch the bus only to get right to the door and have it slammed in her face.  The woman would likely have been working all day in some white family&#8217;s house, often hard manual labor like scrubbing floors, and missing this bus would mean a long weary wait for the next one.</p>
<p>Another thing they did was leave the movable signs separating the white from black section far toward the back, even if the blacks behind the sign were standing on top of each other and there were many empty seats in the white section in the front.  All these things used to make my mother angry.  She was a young mother then and didn&#8217;t realize she should speak up and take responsibility for things like that, so she fumed in silence.  When the boycott finally came she was delighted to see it happen.</p>
<p>Much later I watched a PBS series &#8220;Eyes on the Prize&#8221;, and became fascinated with the history of the Civil Rights movement.  So much of it happened right here in my hometown.  I drove downtown after one episode and looked at the A.G.Gaston Motel still there where MLK miraculously survived a bomb blast, Kelly Ingram Park where black children protesters were set upon by guard dogs and fire hoses, and the 16th St. Baptist Church where the four little girls were killed by a bomb.  Everyone should come to Birmingham and see this stuff!  We have the Civil Rights Institute now and a statue to MLK.  Like Diane Nash said, it was just regular people, who decided they&#8217;d had enough, so with God&#8217;s help and amazing courage and fortitude, they just did it.  It didn&#8217;t take a charismatic leader to get it started.  Just plain old ordinary people.</p>
<p>I remember in my youth, how bad things were then.  I remember our unfair, unjust, violent, sad two-tiered society.  By God&#8217;s grace and the grace and courage of all the civil rights protesters, our society was spared an endless Palestine-type or Northern Ireland-type violent struggle.  We&#8217;ve come so far.  And it was done simply by ordinary people standing up for what&#8217;s right.  I feel so inspired whenever I think about it or study it.  We can do the same thing now!  Why do we think the work is over?  There&#8217;s so much left to be done.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/14/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/06/a-missionarys-view-of-the-1978-revelation/#comment-20852</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A wonderful contribution, Margaret!  Thank you.

John f., that&#039;s an interesting thought that hadn&#039;t occurred to me.  But I doubt that&#039;s it, as I had only been out 8 months at that point.  I think I meant that the second coming was soon at hand.  I remember my bishop telling me I would definitely be alive when the Savior returned, and recall that this was back in the days when a lot of Saints assumed it was going to happen in the year 2000 (Y2K indeed).  So I think I saw millennial significance to the revelation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful contribution, Margaret!  Thank you.</p>
<p>John f., that&#8217;s an interesting thought that hadn&#8217;t occurred to me.  But I doubt that&#8217;s it, as I had only been out 8 months at that point.  I think I meant that the second coming was soon at hand.  I remember my bishop telling me I would definitely be alive when the Savior returned, and recall that this was back in the days when a lot of Saints assumed it was going to happen in the year 2000 (Y2K indeed).  So I think I saw millennial significance to the revelation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

