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		<title>By: Mariano MARINI</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mariano MARINI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the topical very interesting, but I see that the comments tooks another direction. So execuse me if I go back to it.
I&#039;m an italian member and in this mission&#039;s land most of the members tent to accept as &#039;revelation&#039; ALL mormon speaking, even those of &#039;soccer matter&#039; (if this has some meaning in english).
I know exactly what it is a revelation and inspiration; so I distinguish very clearly, when I speak or teach, between my opinion and inspiration and &#039;Church doctrine&#039;.
Usually I doubt on those who pretend to be inspired 100% of the time.
This is not a way that some people, even local leaders, think and act.
For this I appreciate the clearness made by First Presidency, with a letter, and Bro. Oaks in the topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the topical very interesting, but I see that the comments tooks another direction. So execuse me if I go back to it.<br />
I&#8217;m an italian member and in this mission&#8217;s land most of the members tent to accept as &#8216;revelation&#8217; ALL mormon speaking, even those of &#8216;soccer matter&#8217; (if this has some meaning in english).<br />
I know exactly what it is a revelation and inspiration; so I distinguish very clearly, when I speak or teach, between my opinion and inspiration and &#8216;Church doctrine&#8217;.<br />
Usually I doubt on those who pretend to be inspired 100% of the time.<br />
This is not a way that some people, even local leaders, think and act.<br />
For this I appreciate the clearness made by First Presidency, with a letter, and Bro. Oaks in the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark IV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If you’re going to start dropping names of founders from 3-4 DECADES ago, shouldn’t they still be affirmed supporters today?&lt;/i&gt;

I see it differently, queuno.  I don&#039;t see that as a claim that people should still support the same causes they supported forty years ago.  We all change, and our perspectives change.  I think it is simply a matter of acknowledging that, at one time, this was important to Dallin Oaks.  It would have been silly for us back in the early 70&#039;s to make judgments about Elder Oaks&#039; worthiness, and it is just as silly now for us to jump to conclusions about the ultimate righteousness or worthiness of people who  find Dialogue useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you’re going to start dropping names of founders from 3-4 DECADES ago, shouldn’t they still be affirmed supporters today?</i></p>
<p>I see it differently, queuno.  I don&#8217;t see that as a claim that people should still support the same causes they supported forty years ago.  We all change, and our perspectives change.  I think it is simply a matter of acknowledging that, at one time, this was important to Dallin Oaks.  It would have been silly for us back in the early 70&#8242;s to make judgments about Elder Oaks&#8217; worthiness, and it is just as silly now for us to jump to conclusions about the ultimate righteousness or worthiness of people who  find Dialogue useful.</p>
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		<title>By: StillConfused</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StillConfused]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, if gals can kiss and make up (some men even fantasize about that), then it is time for men to step up to the plate.... with a video camera.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if gals can kiss and make up (some men even fantasize about that), then it is time for men to step up to the plate&#8230;. with a video camera.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[queuno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Here’s an irony. Dallin Oaks was one of the founding editors/supporters of Dialogue. Read about it here.&lt;/i&gt;

I have a family member who was involved in Dialogue&#039;s founding.  And he&#039;s apparently moved on.  If you&#039;re going to start dropping names of founders from 3-4 DECADES ago, shouldn&#039;t they still be affirmed supporters today?

&lt;i&gt;You’ve said that before; it reminds me of a creative writing prof I had (a prominent poet, editor of one of the major poetry journals in the U.S., but it’s been years and I don’t remember his name). He decried the tendency he’d seen of aspiring poets to not read poetry, arguing that they didn’t want their expression of poetry tainted by others’ ideas. He argued that, by attempting to create their own hermetically sealed world of poetry, they wrote sucky poetry.&lt;/i&gt;

Outstanding analogy.  Applicable to many a field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here’s an irony. Dallin Oaks was one of the founding editors/supporters of Dialogue. Read about it here.</i></p>
<p>I have a family member who was involved in Dialogue&#8217;s founding.  And he&#8217;s apparently moved on.  If you&#8217;re going to start dropping names of founders from 3-4 DECADES ago, shouldn&#8217;t they still be affirmed supporters today?</p>
<p><i>You’ve said that before; it reminds me of a creative writing prof I had (a prominent poet, editor of one of the major poetry journals in the U.S., but it’s been years and I don’t remember his name). He decried the tendency he’d seen of aspiring poets to not read poetry, arguing that they didn’t want their expression of poetry tainted by others’ ideas. He argued that, by attempting to create their own hermetically sealed world of poetry, they wrote sucky poetry.</i></p>
<p>Outstanding analogy.  Applicable to many a field.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Time to kiss and make up.&quot;

Isn&#039;t promotion of homosexual activity and cross-dressing a violation of our comment policies?

Aaron B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Time to kiss and make up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t promotion of homosexual activity and cross-dressing a violation of our comment policies?</p>
<p>Aaron B</p>
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		<title>By: StillConfused</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StillConfused]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the fellows up above -- lighten up dudes!  Such crankiness is not appropriate on a site that is all about the love. Time to kiss and make up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the fellows up above &#8212; lighten up dudes!  Such crankiness is not appropriate on a site that is all about the love. Time to kiss and make up.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About Sunstone and Dialogue, my theory (pretty much unmentioned by anybody but me) is that the intellectual &quot;wing&quot; of the Church was thrown for a loop by the frauds of Mark Hoffmann. One of the Symposiums I attended in the early 80s was almost completely focused on the Salamander letter. Once this was revealed to be a hoax, everybody was suddenly paralyzed in their intellectualism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Sunstone and Dialogue, my theory (pretty much unmentioned by anybody but me) is that the intellectual &#8220;wing&#8221; of the Church was thrown for a loop by the frauds of Mark Hoffmann. One of the Symposiums I attended in the early 80s was almost completely focused on the Salamander letter. Once this was revealed to be a hoax, everybody was suddenly paralyzed in their intellectualism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skousen&#039;s &lt;em&gt;thought&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skousen&#8217;s <em>thought</em></p>
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		<title>By: Sam B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt,
Either&#039;s possible, but I think the writer&#039;s assuming that Romney likes Skousen&#039;s though, based on this part of the article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“You and I share a common affection for the late Cleon Skousen,” the radio host says. The former governor agrees, affirming Skousen was his professor and when the radio host professes his fondness for Skousen’s book The Making of America, while he acknowledges he hasn’t read it, Mitt quickly says “That’s worth reading.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
Either&#8217;s possible, but I think the writer&#8217;s assuming that Romney likes Skousen&#8217;s though, based on this part of the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>“You and I share a common affection for the late Cleon Skousen,” the radio host says. The former governor agrees, affirming Skousen was his professor and when the radio host professes his fondness for Skousen’s book The Making of America, while he acknowledges he hasn’t read it, Mitt quickly says “That’s worth reading.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/03/your-friday-firestorm-7/#comment-36145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since this thread has devolved to basic poo slinging, can I say that I totally do not get the odd article on Cleon Skousen in the sideblog? What is the point? Romeny once took a class from Skousen so he&#039;s a conservative extremist in sheeps clothing? Or is it just a pointless, I know dirt about something and I can sell it for an extra dime? I don&#039;t get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this thread has devolved to basic poo slinging, can I say that I totally do not get the odd article on Cleon Skousen in the sideblog? What is the point? Romeny once took a class from Skousen so he&#8217;s a conservative extremist in sheeps clothing? Or is it just a pointless, I know dirt about something and I can sell it for an extra dime? I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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