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	<title>Comments on: Mormon-Muslim Relations</title>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21510</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to see so much debate on conversion and proselytizing.  I look forward to the day we can more ardently devote ourselves to building bridges with other religions.  Thank you all for your suggestions and help.  On that note I will leave this thought on Interfaith Relations:

President Gordon B. Hinckley has consistently advocated dialogue and mutual respect in interfaith relations. He has admonished members of the Church to cultivate “a spirit of affirmative gratitude” for those of differing religious, political, and philosophical persuasions, adding that “we do not in any way have to compromise our theology” in the process. He gave this counsel: “Be respectful of the opinions and feelings of other people. Recognize their virtues; don’t look for their faults. Look for their strengths and their virtues, and you will find strength and virtues that will be helpful in your own life.”

Elder Russell M. Nelson quoted a public statement issued by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in October 1992, calling upon “all people everywhere to re-commit themselves to the time-honored ideals of tolerance and mutual respect. We sincerely believe that as we acknowledge one another with consideration and compassion we will discover that we can all peacefully coexist despite our deepest differences.”

Lastly, In a recent talk by President Boyd K. Packer, he stated, “Church members and Muslims share similar high standards of decency, temperance, and morality. We have so much in common. As societal morality and behavior decline in an increasingly permissive world, the Church and many within Islam increasingly share natural affinities.”
Salam,
Rachel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to see so much debate on conversion and proselytizing.  I look forward to the day we can more ardently devote ourselves to building bridges with other religions.  Thank you all for your suggestions and help.  On that note I will leave this thought on Interfaith Relations:</p>
<p>President Gordon B. Hinckley has consistently advocated dialogue and mutual respect in interfaith relations. He has admonished members of the Church to cultivate “a spirit of affirmative gratitude” for those of differing religious, political, and philosophical persuasions, adding that “we do not in any way have to compromise our theology” in the process. He gave this counsel: “Be respectful of the opinions and feelings of other people. Recognize their virtues; don’t look for their faults. Look for their strengths and their virtues, and you will find strength and virtues that will be helpful in your own life.”</p>
<p>Elder Russell M. Nelson quoted a public statement issued by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in October 1992, calling upon “all people everywhere to re-commit themselves to the time-honored ideals of tolerance and mutual respect. We sincerely believe that as we acknowledge one another with consideration and compassion we will discover that we can all peacefully coexist despite our deepest differences.”</p>
<p>Lastly, In a recent talk by President Boyd K. Packer, he stated, “Church members and Muslims share similar high standards of decency, temperance, and morality. We have so much in common. As societal morality and behavior decline in an increasingly permissive world, the Church and many within Islam increasingly share natural affinities.”<br />
Salam,<br />
Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: warno</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21528</link>
		<dc:creator>warno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amira, which majority-Muslim countries are you referring to that have active proselytizing?

My experience in southern France at the time the church put restrictions on converting Muslims was that the convertee had to have legal residence in France so there was no chance of a forced return to the country of origin (usually Algeria).  Although I spent a lot of time &quot;teaching&quot; Muslims(actually they usually were trying out their version of the first discussion to convert us) I never saw a practicing Muslim convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amira, which majority-Muslim countries are you referring to that have active proselytizing?</p>
<p>My experience in southern France at the time the church put restrictions on converting Muslims was that the convertee had to have legal residence in France so there was no chance of a forced return to the country of origin (usually Algeria).  Although I spent a lot of time &#8220;teaching&#8221; Muslims(actually they usually were trying out their version of the first discussion to convert us) I never saw a practicing Muslim convert.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21527</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Mormon Muslim relations will kind of depend on whether Muslims value correct belief more than correct practice or vis versa.

If they&#039;re anything like Protestants, it won&#039;t matter how righteous your people are - the theology is going to be a deal-breaker.

Whereas Jews on the other hand, almost couldn&#039;t care less what odd stuff you think about the afterlife as long as you live a moral life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Mormon Muslim relations will kind of depend on whether Muslims value correct belief more than correct practice or vis versa.</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re anything like Protestants, it won&#8217;t matter how righteous your people are &#8211; the theology is going to be a deal-breaker.</p>
<p>Whereas Jews on the other hand, almost couldn&#8217;t care less what odd stuff you think about the afterlife as long as you live a moral life.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Taggart</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21526</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Taggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard that the Maxwell Institute&#039;s METI or Middle East Text Initiative is being well received in the Muslim world.  You might want to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that the Maxwell Institute&#8217;s METI or Middle East Text Initiative is being well received in the Muslim world.  You might want to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21525</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marrakech, Christians may have convinced themselves that they are monotheists, but they haven&#039;t convinced Muslims.  From the monotheistic perspective of Islam, a belief in the Trinity does not a monotheist make.

So the answer to your question is that of course Muslims would reject these particular aspects of LDS thought.  But they would also and similarly reject the classical dogma of the Trinity.  You are quite right that Muslims are perhaps the most rigorous of monotheists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marrakech, Christians may have convinced themselves that they are monotheists, but they haven&#8217;t convinced Muslims.  From the monotheistic perspective of Islam, a belief in the Trinity does not a monotheist make.</p>
<p>So the answer to your question is that of course Muslims would reject these particular aspects of LDS thought.  But they would also and similarly reject the classical dogma of the Trinity.  You are quite right that Muslims are perhaps the most rigorous of monotheists.</p>
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		<title>By: Amira</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21524</link>
		<dc:creator>Amira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t a strict prohibition against teaching all Muslims even though there generally is.  It depends on where they are living at the time and especially what country they are from.  There are Muslim-majority countries with active proselytizing going on and Muslims being baptized.  It would be interesting to explore the differences in Muslim-Mormon relations in different parts of the world because there truly are significant differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t a strict prohibition against teaching all Muslims even though there generally is.  It depends on where they are living at the time and especially what country they are from.  There are Muslim-majority countries with active proselytizing going on and Muslims being baptized.  It would be interesting to explore the differences in Muslim-Mormon relations in different parts of the world because there truly are significant differences.</p>
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		<title>By: marrakech</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21523</link>
		<dc:creator>marrakech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Muslims think about Mormon beliefs in plural Gods, a Council of Gods, and the idea that man may become a God? Don&#039;t they take their belief in the &quot;One God&quot; pretty seriously? The Muslim faith is quite respectful of Christians and Jews for being fellow believers in the &quot;One God&quot;. They believe in  the Old Testament prophets and that Jesus was a prophet. Islam is not so respectful, or tolerant, of polytheistic beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Muslims think about Mormon beliefs in plural Gods, a Council of Gods, and the idea that man may become a God? Don&#8217;t they take their belief in the &#8220;One God&#8221; pretty seriously? The Muslim faith is quite respectful of Christians and Jews for being fellow believers in the &#8220;One God&#8221;. They believe in  the Old Testament prophets and that Jesus was a prophet. Islam is not so respectful, or tolerant, of polytheistic beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21522</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, regarding your desire to find Mormons to participate in a &quot;break the fast&quot; in Las Vegas, I would suggest you talk to your local public affairs people (every stake has a public affairs committee).

I&#039;m on the public affairs committee of my stake here near Chicago (I&#039;m the community relations guy), and I&#039;ve got to tell you that the public affairs people in our region are simply awesome.  I am so impressed with these brothers and sisters.  At the highest levels (above my pay grade) they know Father Michael Pfleger, a controversial and activist Catholic Priest in Chicago.  They have, as I privately told you, arranged for joint Muslim and Mormon youth activities in Buffalo Grove.  They are very open and desirous of establishing relationships of friendship with other faiths.

So I would suggest you leverage the established infrastructure of your local stakes.  This is exactly the kind of thing your local public affairs people should be involved in and should embrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, regarding your desire to find Mormons to participate in a &#8220;break the fast&#8221; in Las Vegas, I would suggest you talk to your local public affairs people (every stake has a public affairs committee).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the public affairs committee of my stake here near Chicago (I&#8217;m the community relations guy), and I&#8217;ve got to tell you that the public affairs people in our region are simply awesome.  I am so impressed with these brothers and sisters.  At the highest levels (above my pay grade) they know Father Michael Pfleger, a controversial and activist Catholic Priest in Chicago.  They have, as I privately told you, arranged for joint Muslim and Mormon youth activities in Buffalo Grove.  They are very open and desirous of establishing relationships of friendship with other faiths.</p>
<p>So I would suggest you leverage the established infrastructure of your local stakes.  This is exactly the kind of thing your local public affairs people should be involved in and should embrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Parr</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21521</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure that you are already familiar with this book, but thought I would reference it just in case: http://www.amazon.com/Mormons-Muslims-Spiritual-Foundations-Manifestations/dp/0884944832/ref=sr_1_12/105-7540271-7717204?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1187409988&amp;sr=8-12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that you are already familiar with this book, but thought I would reference it just in case: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormons-Muslims-Spiritual-Foundations-Manifestations/dp/0884944832/ref=sr_1_12/105-7540271-7717204?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1187409988&amp;sr=8-12" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Mormons-Muslims-Spiritual-Foundations-Manifestations/dp/0884944832/ref=sr_1_12/105-7540271-7717204?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1187409988&amp;sr=8-12</a></p>
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		<title>By: bbell</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/16/mormon-muslim-relations/#comment-21520</link>
		<dc:creator>bbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my mission we had a policy of not teaching Muslims as well.  This policy was crafted after a muslim family was converted and an attempt was made on their lives by their relatives and fellow mosque members.  This happened in  South Africa in 1993.  The family received asylum in the US after their daughter married a missionary (long story) and the last I heard was in Orem.

The flat out stated reason for our policy was the threat of violence (as demonstrated) from the Islamic community based on the death penalty for conversion found in Sharia law.

My brother in law served in Southern Russia and had similar teaching restrictions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my mission we had a policy of not teaching Muslims as well.  This policy was crafted after a muslim family was converted and an attempt was made on their lives by their relatives and fellow mosque members.  This happened in  South Africa in 1993.  The family received asylum in the US after their daughter married a missionary (long story) and the last I heard was in Orem.</p>
<p>The flat out stated reason for our policy was the threat of violence (as demonstrated) from the Islamic community based on the death penalty for conversion found in Sharia law.</p>
<p>My brother in law served in Southern Russia and had similar teaching restrictions</p>
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