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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the &quot;We&#039;re right and we&#039;re going to convert you&quot; mentality.  This leads to people thinking that the church can do no wrong since we&#039;re &#039;the chosen ones.&#039;  Then when someone even thinks something negative about the church, the members are up in arms.  I&#039;m the only one in my ward who not only wasn&#039;t offended at Helen Whitney&#039;s documentary, but thought it was very well done.  As a people, I think we definitely need to lighten up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the &#8220;We&#8217;re right and we&#8217;re going to convert you&#8221; mentality.  This leads to people thinking that the church can do no wrong since we&#8217;re &#8216;the chosen ones.&#8217;  Then when someone even thinks something negative about the church, the members are up in arms.  I&#8217;m the only one in my ward who not only wasn&#8217;t offended at Helen Whitney&#8217;s documentary, but thought it was very well done.  As a people, I think we definitely need to lighten up.</p>
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		<title>By: janeannechovy</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80511</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always like to expand Hanlon&#039;s law: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity, or ignorance, or indifference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always like to expand Hanlon&#8217;s law: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity, or ignorance, or indifference.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D., au contraire!  Look at the fonts, the colors!  Why, the very URLs are different!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D., au contraire!  Look at the fonts, the colors!  Why, the very URLs are different!</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about people that are attentive to details that just get bored with the same conversations about the same details delivered on about 1,000 different blogs over and over?

One reason I haven&#039;t posted very frequently of late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about people that are attentive to details that just get bored with the same conversations about the same details delivered on about 1,000 different blogs over and over?</p>
<p>One reason I haven&#8217;t posted very frequently of late.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80508</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Steve said.  Thanks, Carol, I had not looked at it that way - which is a great example of why I love this type of communication.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Steve said.  Thanks, Carol, I had not looked at it that way &#8211; which is a great example of why I love this type of communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol, that&#039;s a very, very interesting point.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, that&#8217;s a very, very interesting point.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol F.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being sensitive to details and being highly observant are characteristics that only about 15-20% of the population have per Dr. Elaine Aron (www.hsperson.com).  This trait is probably very common among Bloggernacle bloggers and commenters, though you may deny it, especially if you are a man.  To contrast, there are many LDS people (probably around 80%) who just plain don&#039;t care and don&#039;t need to discuss the finer points of LDS doctrine beyond Sunday School, if there.

If you are still following this train of thought, there is a high chance of those same qualities coming into play and a new person feeling ignored and such, even among other detail-oriented people.  Of course it isn&#039;t meant, and of course you have to earn your way in and stay and get to know people and them know you, but it is bound to happen on all blogs, and especially LDS blogs.  And no, it doesn&#039;t always translate into having been &quot;offended&quot;.  It is just a feeling of vulnerability and you either bail or toughen up or figure it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being sensitive to details and being highly observant are characteristics that only about 15-20% of the population have per Dr. Elaine Aron (www.hsperson.com).  This trait is probably very common among Bloggernacle bloggers and commenters, though you may deny it, especially if you are a man.  To contrast, there are many LDS people (probably around 80%) who just plain don&#8217;t care and don&#8217;t need to discuss the finer points of LDS doctrine beyond Sunday School, if there.</p>
<p>If you are still following this train of thought, there is a high chance of those same qualities coming into play and a new person feeling ignored and such, even among other detail-oriented people.  Of course it isn&#8217;t meant, and of course you have to earn your way in and stay and get to know people and them know you, but it is bound to happen on all blogs, and especially LDS blogs.  And no, it doesn&#8217;t always translate into having been &#8220;offended&#8221;.  It is just a feeling of vulnerability and you either bail or toughen up or figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Questions...</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Questions...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[k l h:

It is interesting how many years of activity and commitment seem to create a gravitational pull of sorts (to continue the metaphor) such that even those who have completely severed ties with the Church still hover around LDS blogs.

I&#039;m not in that category, however, and find many of the &quot;disaffected&quot; blogs to be full of a lot of arrogance and negative energy.  I guess that&#039;s why I still lurk around places like this..

BTW, I got a good laugh from your first comment (#27)!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k l h:</p>
<p>It is interesting how many years of activity and commitment seem to create a gravitational pull of sorts (to continue the metaphor) such that even those who have completely severed ties with the Church still hover around LDS blogs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in that category, however, and find many of the &#8220;disaffected&#8221; blogs to be full of a lot of arrogance and negative energy.  I guess that&#8217;s why I still lurk around places like this..</p>
<p>BTW, I got a good laugh from your first comment (#27)!</p>
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		<title>By: k l h</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[k l h]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Questions:

Oh there&#039;s a lots of orbiters occasionally about, too (yet we still orbit--since actual &quot;disaffected&quot;-themed blogs don&#039;t satisfy our longings for Mormon thought and quasi-community?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions:</p>
<p>Oh there&#8217;s a lots of orbiters occasionally about, too (yet we still orbit&#8211;since actual &#8220;disaffected&#8221;-themed blogs don&#8217;t satisfy our longings for Mormon thought and quasi-community?)</p>
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		<title>By: Questions...</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/19/feel-marginalized-me-too/#comment-80503</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Questions...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate the comments and perspectives offered, and found the link to Kaimi&#039;s other post instructive.

No, I don&#039;t have a chip on my shoulder, and will likely chime in when I think I have something to contribute.  I guess that part of the problem is that at this point in my life I seem to be getting farther out in the &#039;borderlands&#039;, nearing escape velocity, and so have less in common with most of those here, and also with what I assume to be a &#039;faithful, church affirmative&#039; overall stance of the blog itself, which I don&#039;t want to violate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the comments and perspectives offered, and found the link to Kaimi&#8217;s other post instructive.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t have a chip on my shoulder, and will likely chime in when I think I have something to contribute.  I guess that part of the problem is that at this point in my life I seem to be getting farther out in the &#8216;borderlands&#8217;, nearing escape velocity, and so have less in common with most of those here, and also with what I assume to be a &#8216;faithful, church affirmative&#8217; overall stance of the blog itself, which I don&#8217;t want to violate.</p>
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