Comments on: The Prophet’s Shelf http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/ A Mormon Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Portia http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80631 Portia Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:21:21 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80631 Hey, thanks. I found it shortly after submitting this, actually, but references are always good. :) Hey, thanks. I found it shortly after submitting this, actually, but references are always good. :)

]]> By: J. Stapley http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80630 J. Stapley Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:58:13 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80630 Portia, I believe it is this <a href="http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=49e561cb2b86b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1" rel="nofollow">biographical sketch</a> that Lavina wrote for the <em>Ensign</em> in 1975. Portia, I believe it is this biographical sketch that Lavina wrote for the Ensign in 1975.

]]> By: Portia http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80629 Portia Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:45:26 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80629 Hello: one of my professors is looking for the original Camilla Kimball "shelf" reference. If anyone can provide that for me, I would greatly appreciate it. Email me at portia (at) byu (dot) edu or just post it here. Hello: one of my professors is looking for the original Camilla Kimball “shelf” reference. If anyone can provide that for me, I would greatly appreciate it.

Email me at portia (at) byu (dot) edu

or just post it here.

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80628 Ray Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:07:43 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80628 Sorry; it's late and I'm exhausted. Should have been: http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4053#more-4053 Sorry; it’s late and I’m exhausted. Should have been:

http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4053#more-4053

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80627 Ray Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:06:28 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80627 This is one that someone else must have put on my shelf, since I was unaware of it. I'm not sure I would put it on a shelf, since there are all kinds of possible wild applications. I wouldn't pick Methodist, but it might be fun to portray a different religion every week. http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4053#comment-232853 This is one that someone else must have put on my shelf, since I was unaware of it. I’m not sure I would put it on a shelf, since there are all kinds of possible wild applications. I wouldn’t pick Methodist, but it might be fun to portray a different religion every week.

http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4053#comment-232853

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80626 Ray Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:06:14 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80626 TK Smoothie?!?! Wow. Simply wow. I'd like to invoke that rule in some of my administrative meetings, but I might need to come up with a different title. I'm not sure my closest Priesthood associates would appreciate "TK Smoothie" - although most of them have excellent senses of humor. If I can't come up with another name for it, perhaps I will have an interesting experience in the future. TK Smoothie?!?! Wow. Simply wow.

I’d like to invoke that rule in some of my administrative meetings, but I might need to come up with a different title. I’m not sure my closest Priesthood associates would appreciate “TK Smoothie” – although most of them have excellent senses of humor. If I can’t come up with another name for it, perhaps I will have an interesting experience in the future.

]]> By: MCQ http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80625 MCQ Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:10:01 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80625 FWIW, the doctrine Neal refers to in #61 is the "TK Smoothie" rule which you can read more about <a href="http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2006/12/18/the-tk-smoothie-rule/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It's crap, of course. FWIW, the doctrine Neal refers to in #61 is the “TK Smoothie” rule which you can read more about here. It’s crap, of course.

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80624 Ray Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:55:50 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80624 Hopefully, this will be five in a row on the recent comment list. Pride is such a good thing. (Please, please, please recognize the tone of that that one.) Nick, I just need to thank you for the first paragraph of #60. As much as I don't care what others think in many ways, those words mean a lot to me. I have gone through a bit of a transformation in regard to your comments. There was a time when I viewed them as combative and argumentative, but I no longer see it that way. I appreciate most of them now as sincere and thoughtful - as a necessary alternative view in the process of understanding the issues more fully. I still think a few are over-the-top, but they no longer bother me as much as they originally did. (and I also see that most, if not all, of the ones I view as over-the-top are in direct response to someone else whose comment also is over-the-top) In summary, thank you; I now feel the same way. End of lovefest - not that there's anything wrong with that. Hopefully, this will be five in a row on the recent comment list. Pride is such a good thing. (Please, please, please recognize the tone of that that one.)

Nick, I just need to thank you for the first paragraph of #60. As much as I don’t care what others think in many ways, those words mean a lot to me. I have gone through a bit of a transformation in regard to your comments. There was a time when I viewed them as combative and argumentative, but I no longer see it that way. I appreciate most of them now as sincere and thoughtful – as a necessary alternative view in the process of understanding the issues more fully. I still think a few are over-the-top, but they no longer bother me as much as they originally did. (and I also see that most, if not all, of the ones I view as over-the-top are in direct response to someone else whose comment also is over-the-top) In summary, thank you; I now feel the same way.

End of lovefest – not that there’s anything wrong with that.

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80623 Ray Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:09:41 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80623 Nick, one of the reasons I also like how the Church leaders are discussing homosexuality now is the very thing you mentioned - that they no longer are involved in the natural vs. unnatural debate. They no longer "blame" people for their sexual inclinations. I also like Elder Jensen's recognition that it is almost impossible to expect people to live without hope. I think that opens a window for eternal reward through grace that doesn't exist under the orthodox view. Nick, one of the reasons I also like how the Church leaders are discussing homosexuality now is the very thing you mentioned – that they no longer are involved in the natural vs. unnatural debate. They no longer “blame” people for their sexual inclinations. I also like Elder Jensen’s recognition that it is almost impossible to expect people to live without hope. I think that opens a window for eternal reward through grace that doesn’t exist under the orthodox view.

]]> By: Ray http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/23/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80622 Ray Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:59:14 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/08/the-prophets-shelf/#comment-80622 Neal, one of my favorite quotes from my father is, "Sometimes people think too hard." Neal, one of my favorite quotes from my father is, “Sometimes people think too hard.”

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