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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; From the Archives: John Wesley, the Latter-day Saint</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juvenile Instructor &#187; From the Archives: John Wesley, the Latter-day Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] church.  It is also perhaps telling that this was published in the 1840s, suggesting that despite some evidence to the contrary, Methodist practices and beliefs continued to influence Mormon thought until near the end of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] church.  It is also perhaps telling that this was published in the 1840s, suggesting that despite some evidence to the contrary, Methodist practices and beliefs continued to influence Mormon thought until near the end of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: From the Archives: John Wesley, the Latter-day Saint &#171; Juvenile Instructor</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[From the Archives: John Wesley, the Latter-day Saint &#171; Juvenile Instructor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] church.  It is also perhaps telling that this was published in the 1840s, suggesting that despite some evidence to the contrary, Methodist practices and beliefs continued to influence Mormon thought until near the end of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] church.  It is also perhaps telling that this was published in the 1840s, suggesting that despite some evidence to the contrary, Methodist practices and beliefs continued to influence Mormon thought until near the end of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;We are all familiar with young Joseph Smith’s partiality for Methodism. ... By the end of his life though, Joseph’s perspective had changed, and there was a new tradition in which to find parallels.&lt;/em&gt;

There is evidence that well into the Nauvoo period of the Church, Joseph was still drawing parallels with Methodism.  Peter Cartwright, a Methodist minister who visited JS in Nauvoo, recorded that &quot;[Smith] believed that among all the Churches in the world the Methodists was the nearest right&quot; and that JS told him &quot;We Latter-day Saints are Methodists, as far as they have gone, only have advanced further.&quot; (&lt;em&gt;Autobiography of Peter Cartwright&lt;/em&gt;, 342).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We are all familiar with young Joseph Smith’s partiality for Methodism. &#8230; By the end of his life though, Joseph’s perspective had changed, and there was a new tradition in which to find parallels.</em></p>
<p>There is evidence that well into the Nauvoo period of the Church, Joseph was still drawing parallels with Methodism.  Peter Cartwright, a Methodist minister who visited JS in Nauvoo, recorded that &#8220;[Smith] believed that among all the Churches in the world the Methodists was the nearest right&#8221; and that JS told him &#8220;We Latter-day Saints are Methodists, as far as they have gone, only have advanced further.&#8221; (<em>Autobiography of Peter Cartwright</em>, 342).</p>
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		<title>By: john f.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john f.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It may be wrong, but it was brilliant.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, it may not be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It may be wrong, but it was brilliant.</i></p>
<p>Or, it may not be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Defensor Veritatis &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Updates</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Defensor Veritatis &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Updates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] First: What can we say?  When Joseph Smith was right, he was right.  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] First: What can we say?  When Joseph Smith was right, he was right.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, JWL.  That is an amazing quote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JWL.  That is an amazing quote.</p>
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		<title>By: JWL</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JWL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the paragraph in case clicking through to it is too much of a bother.  The entire article is interesting though:

&quot;Even if one thinks that Smith was profoundly mistaken (as I do), one cannot help but marvel at the religious genius of this project: It has all the advantages of Reformation Protestantism and nineteenth-century Restorationism (“Let’s get back to what Jesus and the apostles originally taught”) with all the advantages of Catholicism and Orthodoxy—an apostolic magisterium within the confines of a visible church. Smith has both a priesthood of all believers and a priesthood managed by a church hierarchy. He offers a new gospel unconstrained by centuries of theological precedent, yet it he could claim that it is as old as the apostles. He could, without contradiction, reject tradition while claiming to be the true guardian of an ancient message. It may be wrong, but it was brilliant.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the paragraph in case clicking through to it is too much of a bother.  The entire article is interesting though:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if one thinks that Smith was profoundly mistaken (as I do), one cannot help but marvel at the religious genius of this project: It has all the advantages of Reformation Protestantism and nineteenth-century Restorationism (“Let’s get back to what Jesus and the apostles originally taught”) with all the advantages of Catholicism and Orthodoxy—an apostolic magisterium within the confines of a visible church. Smith has both a priesthood of all believers and a priesthood managed by a church hierarchy. He offers a new gospel unconstrained by centuries of theological precedent, yet it he could claim that it is as old as the apostles. He could, without contradiction, reject tradition while claiming to be the true guardian of an ancient message. It may be wrong, but it was brilliant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JWL</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JWL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fourth paragraph of this essay has an interesting take on how Mormonism straddles the Protestant/Catholic divide:

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=754

The author, Francis Beckwith, comes from an interesting perspective.  He is the immediate past president of the Evangelical Philosophy society who just became a Roman Catholic, generating much controversy.  He was also co-editor of &quot;The New Mormon Challenge.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fourth paragraph of this essay has an interesting take on how Mormonism straddles the Protestant/Catholic divide:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=754" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=754</a></p>
<p>The author, Francis Beckwith, comes from an interesting perspective.  He is the immediate past president of the Evangelical Philosophy society who just became a Roman Catholic, generating much controversy.  He was also co-editor of &#8220;The New Mormon Challenge.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Turner-

Have you read Larry Porter&#039;s article on the Young family&#039;s transition from Reformed Methodism to Mormonism, published in the recently released &lt;em&gt;A Witness for the Restoration: Essays in Honor of Robert J. Matthews&lt;/em&gt;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Turner-</p>
<p>Have you read Larry Porter&#8217;s article on the Young family&#8217;s transition from Reformed Methodism to Mormonism, published in the recently released <em>A Witness for the Restoration: Essays in Honor of Robert J. Matthews</em>?</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/09/19/old-catholic-church-is-worth-more-than-all/#comment-64470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Grua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Turner -- Look out for the name Christopher Jones. He&#039;s a grad student in the now defunct BYU masters program, working with Grant Underwood on connections between early Mormonism and Methodism. I think Chris plans to present some of his research at MHA next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Turner &#8212; Look out for the name Christopher Jones. He&#8217;s a grad student in the now defunct BYU masters program, working with Grant Underwood on connections between early Mormonism and Methodism. I think Chris plans to present some of his research at MHA next year.</p>
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