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		<title>By: John C.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  I&#039;m surprised you guys are still talking about all this.  Way to be trolls for not letting it go.  You&#039;re all banned...BANNED!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I&#8217;m surprised you guys are still talking about all this.  Way to be trolls for not letting it go.  You&#8217;re all banned&#8230;BANNED!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Steve.  I didn&#039;t even realize the implication.  Went right past me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve.  I didn&#8217;t even realize the implication.  Went right past me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s.  Ray isn&#039;t an admin or blogger here, and neither is Ardis.  Take comfort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s.  Ray isn&#8217;t an admin or blogger here, and neither is Ardis.  Take comfort.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[klh, fwiw, moderation and deletion also happen on blogs when comments like the one you reference in #50 are submitted after midnight (when trolls often come out of hiding, since most people aren&#039;t awake to challenge them or delete their comments) - and especially when they immediately follow two others that are way over-the-top trollish.  (ALL CAPS rants about barefoot and pregnant Mormon women, for example.)  It&#039;s more the coincidence of the timing in those cases than anything else.  We all are human, and sometimes we make mistakes in this area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>klh, fwiw, moderation and deletion also happen on blogs when comments like the one you reference in #50 are submitted after midnight (when trolls often come out of hiding, since most people aren&#8217;t awake to challenge them or delete their comments) &#8211; and especially when they immediately follow two others that are way over-the-top trollish.  (ALL CAPS rants about barefoot and pregnant Mormon women, for example.)  It&#8217;s more the coincidence of the timing in those cases than anything else.  We all are human, and sometimes we make mistakes in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark IV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[k l h,

Don&#039;t worry about it, man.  Or woman, as the case may be.  You fit in just fine.

Heck, I blog here and now and then my comments get queued.  Go figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k l h,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it, man.  Or woman, as the case may be.  You fit in just fine.</p>
<p>Heck, I blog here and now and then my comments get queued.  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: k l h</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[k l h]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Evans: Mmm. You&#039;re probably right. Nonetheless I&#039;m on occasion deleted in the bloggernacle partially for my general incoherence, I think. (I continue on, ironically incoherently.)

For a workbook example to accompany the above blog essay&#039;s primer on bloggernacle etiquette, I offer this example. (By explanation, I was &lt;i&gt;trying&lt;/i&gt; to use the equality test of switching male and female referrents within my one &quot;Beck affair&quot; comment at an LDS sister blog. (You know, the same way e/g I&#039;d argue that one of the only prejudices to remain politically correct is anti-Mormonism, by switching the current Newsweek cover so it read &quot;Lieberman&quot; and &quot;Jew&quot; with &quot;Romney&quot; and &quot;Mormon&quot;?) So, um, anway, in my post I asked:

&quot;If you LDS men were to imagine that you&#039;ve chosen to be mister mom types and then you were to hear from the Conf. Center pulpit a spiritual support of the benefits and excellence of traditional gender roles, would you act in a stereotypically masculine way by, say, stoically and self-assuredly weathering its implied criticism of your choices while you accepted the positive aspects of the talk in the spirit offered or else by expressing blustery anger? Or would you be self-assured enough to discuss your feeling sensitive and hurt about your choice to find fulfillment through efforts in the domestic area seemingly not being validated?&quot;

In reaction to which Ray immediately chimed in that it was late and trolls were coming out of the woodwork and the blogger who cleverly uses the penname of Adis Parshall (joke) helpfully explained to readers that the comment Ray was referring to was missing cuz she&#039;d sent it to the queue. So, from this, I myself would suggest that, in general, incoherence and also not having a lot of bloggernacle bonefides could be a recipe for being queued--no? :^)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Evans: Mmm. You&#8217;re probably right. Nonetheless I&#8217;m on occasion deleted in the bloggernacle partially for my general incoherence, I think. (I continue on, ironically incoherently.)</p>
<p>For a workbook example to accompany the above blog essay&#8217;s primer on bloggernacle etiquette, I offer this example. (By explanation, I was <i>trying</i> to use the equality test of switching male and female referrents within my one &#8220;Beck affair&#8221; comment at an LDS sister blog. (You know, the same way e/g I&#8217;d argue that one of the only prejudices to remain politically correct is anti-Mormonism, by switching the current Newsweek cover so it read &#8220;Lieberman&#8221; and &#8220;Jew&#8221; with &#8220;Romney&#8221; and &#8220;Mormon&#8221;?) So, um, anway, in my post I asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you LDS men were to imagine that you&#8217;ve chosen to be mister mom types and then you were to hear from the Conf. Center pulpit a spiritual support of the benefits and excellence of traditional gender roles, would you act in a stereotypically masculine way by, say, stoically and self-assuredly weathering its implied criticism of your choices while you accepted the positive aspects of the talk in the spirit offered or else by expressing blustery anger? Or would you be self-assured enough to discuss your feeling sensitive and hurt about your choice to find fulfillment through efforts in the domestic area seemingly not being validated?&#8221;</p>
<p>In reaction to which Ray immediately chimed in that it was late and trolls were coming out of the woodwork and the blogger who cleverly uses the penname of Adis Parshall (joke) helpfully explained to readers that the comment Ray was referring to was missing cuz she&#8217;d sent it to the queue. So, from this, I myself would suggest that, in general, incoherence and also not having a lot of bloggernacle bonefides could be a recipe for being queued&#8211;no? :^)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[klh, that&#039;s interesting.  In my experience, deletion is rarely used.  Actually, I am not sure what you&#039;re saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>klh, that&#8217;s interesting.  In my experience, deletion is rarely used.  Actually, I am not sure what you&#8217;re saying.</p>
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		<title>By: k l h</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[k l h]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Less-smart-of-comments can sometimes pass muster (as, sometimes mine actually &lt;i&gt;aren&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; deleted!) But it&#039;s simply that they&#039;re simply so easily checkmated by brilliant, active Mormons hereabouts that they&#039;re easy prey to deletion simply to clear up the lines of discourse for truly invited guests trying to follow the flow of the thread. They&#039;re slightly cringeworthy comments proffered by someone who arrived to the LDS party in a Marriot ballroom as a guest-of-a-guest, but who is, omigo...um gosh, still cluelessly clutching the ice tea that somebody had offered him in his suite. A Ron Paul supporter over at the Young Republicans meeting.

Typical community member [e/g, a Republican]: &quot;So-&#039;n&#039;-so?! [e/g, Ron Paul]. Disdainfully grunts. &quot;Well, he&#039;s just an &lt;i&gt;obvious...um, visitor here!&quot; (mutters under breath: &quot;the apostate troll!&quot;) &quot;Geez, just look! Doesn&#039;t he sticks out in subtly general ways from the rest of us?!&quot; (thinks: &quot;Who are true believers&quot;--&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; the clique!)
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[Note: In violation of Roasted Tomatoes&#039; principle to not make things about yourself, I&#039;ll provide the context here that while I like Romney, Rudy, and Ron, et cetera, I&#039;m a Obama donator and supporter--who no longer drinks alcohol and has always avoided caffeine. :^)]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less-smart-of-comments can sometimes pass muster (as, sometimes mine actually <i>aren&#8217;t</i> deleted!) But it&#8217;s simply that they&#8217;re simply so easily checkmated by brilliant, active Mormons hereabouts that they&#8217;re easy prey to deletion simply to clear up the lines of discourse for truly invited guests trying to follow the flow of the thread. They&#8217;re slightly cringeworthy comments proffered by someone who arrived to the LDS party in a Marriot ballroom as a guest-of-a-guest, but who is, omigo&#8230;um gosh, still cluelessly clutching the ice tea that somebody had offered him in his suite. A Ron Paul supporter over at the Young Republicans meeting.</p>
<p>Typical community member [e/g, a Republican]: &#8220;So-&#8217;n'-so?! [e/g, Ron Paul]. Disdainfully grunts. &#8220;Well, he&#8217;s just an <i>obvious&#8230;um, visitor here!&#8221; (mutters under breath: &#8220;the apostate troll!&#8221;) &#8220;Geez, just look! Doesn&#8217;t he sticks out in subtly general ways from the rest of us?!&#8221; (thinks: &#8220;Who are true believers&#8221;&#8211;</i><i>in</i> the clique!)<br />
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[Note: In violation of Roasted Tomatoes' principle to not make things about yourself, I'll provide the context here that while I like Romney, Rudy, and Ron, et cetera, I'm a Obama donator and supporter--who no longer drinks alcohol and has always avoided caffeine. :^)]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111951</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clair, that&#039;s because in the Bloggernacle, no one can see how drunk you &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clair, that&#8217;s because in the Bloggernacle, no one can see how drunk you <em>really</em> are.</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/10/08/how-to-fit-in/#comment-111950</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, I&#039;ll keep the party analogy in mind. Thanks.

Actually, I find this easier than I would find a party conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I&#8217;ll keep the party analogy in mind. Thanks.</p>
<p>Actually, I find this easier than I would find a party conversation.</p>
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