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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56698</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went with the last one, but this reminded me a longstanding question that i&#039;ve posed to some of my YSA friends.  Not at all intending to threadjack, but this is something along these same lines that i&#039;ve always wondered:

If the first presidency was to declare that premarital sex is no longer seen as sin, or at least not a sin that deemed one unworthy of things, how long would all of the engaged/serious relationship but not married couples wait to have sex? I think it&#039;s interesting to think about.  There&#039;s the potential for many different responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went with the last one, but this reminded me a longstanding question that i&#8217;ve posed to some of my YSA friends.  Not at all intending to threadjack, but this is something along these same lines that i&#8217;ve always wondered:</p>
<p>If the first presidency was to declare that premarital sex is no longer seen as sin, or at least not a sin that deemed one unworthy of things, how long would all of the engaged/serious relationship but not married couples wait to have sex? I think it&#8217;s interesting to think about.  There&#8217;s the potential for many different responses.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56697</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about &lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gen/18/1,22#1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gen. 18,&lt;/a&gt; George?

How do you explain Abraham&#039;s behavior?  He not only didn&#039;t fall down with fear, he negotiated with the Lord.  Was Abraham a false prophet too, George?  Are you calling Abraham a liar?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gen/18/1,22#1" rel="nofollow">Gen. 18,</a> George?</p>
<p>How do you explain Abraham&#8217;s behavior?  He not only didn&#8217;t fall down with fear, he negotiated with the Lord.  Was Abraham a false prophet too, George?  Are you calling Abraham a liar?</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why was Moses not falling down in terror, George?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was Moses not falling down in terror, George?</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, exactly how did Jacob wrestle God, George, shouldn&#039;t he have been falling down with terror, according to you?

None of these references contain any indcation of terror.  Oops!  Did you forget these George?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, exactly how did Jacob wrestle God, George, shouldn&#8217;t he have been falling down with terror, according to you?</p>
<p>None of these references contain any indcation of terror.  Oops!  Did you forget these George?</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Num. 12:

&lt;blockquote&gt;4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.
5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Num. 12:</p>
<blockquote><p>4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.<br />
5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.<br />
6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: George Windom</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Windom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post 110 - not an comparison - Jacob&#039;s wrestling with God

24 Then Jacob was left alone; and a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day. 25 Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 110 &#8211; not an comparison &#8211; Jacob&#8217;s wrestling with God</p>
<p>24 Then Jacob was left alone; and a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day. 25 Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ex. 24:

&lt;blockquote&gt;9 ¶ Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex. 24:</p>
<blockquote><p>9 ¶ Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:<br />
10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.<br />
11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gen. 32:

&lt;blockquote&gt;  29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
  30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gen. 32:</p>
<blockquote><p>  29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.<br />
  30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George, instead of quoting more scripture, why don&#039;t you answer the references that disprove your point?  Has every recorded visitation with deity resulted in a reaction of pure terror?  Answer: no.  End of your argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, instead of quoting more scripture, why don&#8217;t you answer the references that disprove your point?  Has every recorded visitation with deity resulted in a reaction of pure terror?  Answer: no.  End of your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: George Windom</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/10/your-monday-poll-12/#comment-56690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Windom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post 105: That is a weak comparison in seeing the &quot;Glory&quot; than those described by Joseph Smith.

Yes, I am more serious and convinced that Joseph Smith was a false prophet.

Each one of you know if you were sincerly honest with yourself, that you would have had to change your underwear after experiencing the accounts he describes. Can you imagine yourself being there when &quot;His eyes were as a flame of fire; the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his countenance shone above the brightness of the sun; and his voice was as the sound of the rushing of great waters&quot; and not think it worthy to note that you were frightened.

I prayed and also asked the Lord, how does a simple man know the Truth. I said it shouldn&#039;t be that hard Lord. I shouldn&#039;t have to study the early history of the church, and all that dogma; and try to find where God is three or God is one.
His answer to me was that the Truth was in His word - The little things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 105: That is a weak comparison in seeing the &#8220;Glory&#8221; than those described by Joseph Smith.</p>
<p>Yes, I am more serious and convinced that Joseph Smith was a false prophet.</p>
<p>Each one of you know if you were sincerly honest with yourself, that you would have had to change your underwear after experiencing the accounts he describes. Can you imagine yourself being there when &#8220;His eyes were as a flame of fire; the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his countenance shone above the brightness of the sun; and his voice was as the sound of the rushing of great waters&#8221; and not think it worthy to note that you were frightened.</p>
<p>I prayed and also asked the Lord, how does a simple man know the Truth. I said it shouldn&#8217;t be that hard Lord. I shouldn&#8217;t have to study the early history of the church, and all that dogma; and try to find where God is three or God is one.<br />
His answer to me was that the Truth was in His word &#8211; The little things.</p>
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