Comments on: The Ongoing Restoration http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/ A Mormon Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 20:53:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Steve http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81239 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:21:19 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81239 Sorry that I’m so late to the party.

Pres. Young defined the fullness of the gospel as plural marriage, united order and law of consecration. I’m pretty sure we don’t have the first 2 and I’ve not seen evidence of the 3rd.

So does that echo Mahonri’s thoughts. Perhaps we had the fullness and lost it along the way?

Steve

]]> By: BHodges http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81215 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:44:25 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81215 The fulness of the gospel is anchored in the truth that Christ lived, died, was resurrected, and marked a path to follow. Continuing revelation and change are a part of the fulness. Additionally, we believe all that God has revealed, but that doesn’t mean we understand all that He has revealed.

]]> By: sam http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81238 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:20:19 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81238 J,

I agree. The gift of eternal life would constitute salvation for me as well. Saved from the dead, and more, so to speak.

That being the case, the vast majority of all people will be saved through the atonement and by the grace of Jesus Christ, correct?

]]> By: J. Stapley http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81236 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:36:03 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81236 sam, it seems to me that we might want to use the definition the Lord gave in section 76. Speaking of the telestial kingdom, it reads “for they shall be heirs of salvation.”

]]> By: sam http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81237 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:24:06 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81237 John – define “saved”? :) Resurrected? Yes.

Admitted to the Celestial Kingdom? No.

]]> By: John Mansfield http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81235 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:02:14 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81235 So, a man can be saved in ignorance after all.

]]> By: Horebite http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81214 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:24:24 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81214 That’s “dichotomy”. Wow, I really butchered that one.

]]> By: Horebite http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81234 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:11:29 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81234 Not to pile on, but I also agree with #16-18 and think this is a false dycotemy. There is a lot (perhaps an infinite amount) of truth and it will take us a long time (perhaps eternity) to learn it all. You could say, “Yes, but not all truth is part of the gospel.” Well, that’s arguable, but even accepting that I think it’s still fair to say there is a huge amount (perhaps infinite) of knowledge related to spiritual affairs that we don’t yet know. If you assume an infinite amount of truth, or at least an unimaginably large amount, then we know x%, where x is the closest number possible to 0.

Fullness simply refers to what we need to know and do to receive exaltation.

]]> By: ArielW http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81233 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:25:15 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81233 I would echo #16 as well, but replace salvation with exaltation. Fullness of the gospel is what we need to get home. One of the most challenging AoF is #9. That’s a very bold claim. More revelation will come. Whether it will be grand or small, doctrinally profound, or temporally practicable, it will come. Our church is founded on revelation, and lives and breathes it. The church lives, and we through it.

]]> By: sam http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/11/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81232 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:27:18 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/the-ongoing-restoration/#comment-81232 Agree with nasamomdele.

The Fulness of the Gospel refers to the fact that all the necessary ordinances and practices have been restored.

I’m not certain here, but I believe each dispensation had the fulness of the Gospel and were subsequently lost. I remember reading something to that effect in the past. Anyone else?

The fulness certainly does not imply there is nothing left. Only an uncharitable, overzealous reading into the word fulness would do that. It sounds kind of like the language antimormons use to force someone into a box they don’t believe with.

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