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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Word of Wisdom speaks approvingly of &lt;em&gt;barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.&lt;/em&gt;

Does that indicate that &lt;em&gt;mild barley beverage&lt;/em&gt; are okey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Word of Wisdom speaks approvingly of <em>barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.</em></p>
<p>Does that indicate that <em>mild barley beverage</em> are okey?</p>
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		<title>By: plvmetz</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119940</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Assuming they are in a &quot;normal&quot; ward, they are probably already getting a range of wise and unwise advice from certain people. I would do my best to repent of my own sins so that I don&#039;t bring a negative influence into their lives.  I would do my best to become genuine friends with them, but refrain from giving them advice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming they are in a &#8220;normal&#8221; ward, they are probably already getting a range of wise and unwise advice from certain people. I would do my best to repent of my own sins so that I don&#8217;t bring a negative influence into their lives.  I would do my best to become genuine friends with them, but refrain from giving them advice.</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My dear mother has been through the Temple 4 times in her 65 years.  She has always held Stake positions and is very devout.  Let’s face it, the Temple can be kinda weird.  I don&#039;t much like it myself.  After the changes in 1990 I liked it a lot more.  Give it a shot.  If it is good go back if not don&#039;t, but give it a shot.  I doubt the Lord will condemn you for not liking it.  It is worth going just to experience it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear mother has been through the Temple 4 times in her 65 years.  She has always held Stake positions and is very devout.  Let’s face it, the Temple can be kinda weird.  I don&#8217;t much like it myself.  After the changes in 1990 I liked it a lot more.  Give it a shot.  If it is good go back if not don&#8217;t, but give it a shot.  I doubt the Lord will condemn you for not liking it.  It is worth going just to experience it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The church will take everything you are willing to give it and it will never be enough.  You have to take of yourself spiritually, first and foremost.  Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries.  What Kevin said.

There are lots of ways of doing that.  Praying and reading scriptures with your spouse is one of them.  Sometimes the way we&#039;re advised to do that, it sounds sort of like, &quot;Eat your beets,&quot; or &quot;Finish your liver.&quot;  Think of it more as &quot;take ten minutes for a head, neck and shoulder massage.&quot;

Oh, and what Steve Evans said about a blessing, too.  For both of you!

I went on a silent retreat for a few hours on a Saturday once, just me and 15 other people I didn&#039;t speak with and some focussed readings from the spiritual director of the retreat.  It was awesome.  Like a dip in a cool pool on a hot Louisiana day.

Give yourself the benefit of the doubt.  Cut yourself some slack.  Just be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church will take everything you are willing to give it and it will never be enough.  You have to take of yourself spiritually, first and foremost.  Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries.  What Kevin said.</p>
<p>There are lots of ways of doing that.  Praying and reading scriptures with your spouse is one of them.  Sometimes the way we&#8217;re advised to do that, it sounds sort of like, &#8220;Eat your beets,&#8221; or &#8220;Finish your liver.&#8221;  Think of it more as &#8220;take ten minutes for a head, neck and shoulder massage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, and what Steve Evans said about a blessing, too.  For both of you!</p>
<p>I went on a silent retreat for a few hours on a Saturday once, just me and 15 other people I didn&#8217;t speak with and some focussed readings from the spiritual director of the retreat.  It was awesome.  Like a dip in a cool pool on a hot Louisiana day.</p>
<p>Give yourself the benefit of the doubt.  Cut yourself some slack.  Just be.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119938</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam Greenwood, 43: Why does it &lt;em&gt;need &lt;/em&gt;a bishop? Note: I have no doubt that it would be a loving process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Greenwood, 43: Why does it <em>need </em>a bishop? Note: I have no doubt that it would be a loving process.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Kevin; I should have thought of that one.  Tony, that&#039;s an excellent starting point - and I&#039;m sure one of the questions you could ask is about bulletin boards elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kevin; I should have thought of that one.  Tony, that&#8217;s an excellent starting point &#8211; and I&#8217;m sure one of the questions you could ask is about bulletin boards elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the mild barley beverage a problem that needs a Bishop?

Yep.  They&#039;ll probably find that its a spiritually strengthening and loving process that won&#039;t require much of anything other than a visit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the mild barley beverage a problem that needs a Bishop?</p>
<p>Yep.  They&#8217;ll probably find that its a spiritually strengthening and loving process that won&#8217;t require much of anything other than a visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony, you could try the &quot;Ask the Apologist&quot; feature at the FAIR website, fairlds.org.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, you could try the &#8220;Ask the Apologist&#8221; feature at the FAIR website, fairlds.org.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[queuno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Tony (40) about 32.  Unless the ancestors are holocaust survivors and are actual direct ancestors of F&amp;G, family &quot;permission&quot; isn&#039;t needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tony (40) about 32.  Unless the ancestors are holocaust survivors and are actual direct ancestors of F&amp;G, family &#8220;permission&#8221; isn&#8217;t needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/13/hypothetically/#comment-119932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: 10- Yes, Ray, I meant to say &quot;re: 5&quot;, not 4... I guess nobody here frequents forums.  Too bad, I have so many questions.

I think most of you are missing the point...this isn&#039;t about  going to the temple, this is about two people struggling in general and who likely feel they have no one to talk to.  I know that feeling well.  It seems that in the rush to get baptized and into the life of the church after about the two year mark one is kind of abandoned, left to their own devices with no one to turn to to ask what might be considered &quot;difficult&quot; questions.

Re: 32- who cares what family members think?  I plan to do work for my deceased parents and other relatives regardless of what my siblings or other relatives say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 10- Yes, Ray, I meant to say &#8220;re: 5&#8243;, not 4&#8230; I guess nobody here frequents forums.  Too bad, I have so many questions.</p>
<p>I think most of you are missing the point&#8230;this isn&#8217;t about  going to the temple, this is about two people struggling in general and who likely feel they have no one to talk to.  I know that feeling well.  It seems that in the rush to get baptized and into the life of the church after about the two year mark one is kind of abandoned, left to their own devices with no one to turn to to ask what might be considered &#8220;difficult&#8221; questions.</p>
<p>Re: 32- who cares what family members think?  I plan to do work for my deceased parents and other relatives regardless of what my siblings or other relatives say.</p>
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