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	<title>Comments on: Pax Christiana</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, KB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, KB.</p>
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		<title>By: David T.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do recognize that God had a hand in that spat, don&#039;t you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do recognize that God had a hand in that spat, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter LLC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter LLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Swell post, including the TT/KB exchange. You don&#039;t learn this stuff in class.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ray (#24), you were a history teacher? I had no idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

8)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swell post, including the TT/KB exchange. You don&#8217;t learn this stuff in class.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ray (#24), you were a history teacher? I had no idea.</p></blockquote>
<p>8)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23427</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, just so.  I am intensely protective of my fellow permas (except AB).  Any perceived slight and I immediately reply with wrath.  What can I say?  I am weak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, just so.  I am intensely protective of my fellow permas (except AB).  Any perceived slight and I immediately reply with wrath.  What can I say?  I am weak.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad,
Thanks again for your contributions and context setting.  I really didn&#039;t intend for this to come across as some sort of attack on Kevin, for whom I have nothing but respect.  I hope that he didn&#039;t take my comments as an assault on either his ability or character, and I appreciate his willingness to engage me substantively.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,<br />
Thanks again for your contributions and context setting.  I really didn&#8217;t intend for this to come across as some sort of attack on Kevin, for whom I have nothing but respect.  I hope that he didn&#8217;t take my comments as an assault on either his ability or character, and I appreciate his willingness to engage me substantively.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TT,
fwiw, I agree with your substantive points--all of them.  I served a mission in Russia and despise the logic that credits Stalinism with the Church&#039;s current successes there.  I&#039;m more of a &quot;God punishes the wicked with the wicked&quot; kind of guy.

Chalk up the tensions on this thread not to Steve&#039;s hostility toward you or capriciousness, but to his fiercely protective, maternal instincts toward his fellow permas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT,<br />
fwiw, I agree with your substantive points&#8211;all of them.  I served a mission in Russia and despise the logic that credits Stalinism with the Church&#8217;s current successes there.  I&#8217;m more of a &#8220;God punishes the wicked with the wicked&#8221; kind of guy.</p>
<p>Chalk up the tensions on this thread not to Steve&#8217;s hostility toward you or capriciousness, but to his fiercely protective, maternal instincts toward his fellow permas.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(shakes hands) Thanks.  I apologize for telling you to &quot;piss off,&quot; which was completely out of line yet oddly satisfying.  Next time let&#039;s both save our zingers for a more deserving target (Frank?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(shakes hands) Thanks.  I apologize for telling you to &#8220;piss off,&#8221; which was completely out of line yet oddly satisfying.  Next time let&#8217;s both save our zingers for a more deserving target (Frank?).</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,
Agreed.  I see no reason to have a petty fight.  I apologize for behaving rudely towards you at the end.

Brad,
I have no doubt that many people see the hand of God behind all sorts of terrible things.  I would be happy to continue the discussion about whether or not it is appropriate to question those who suggest the hand of God lie behind a murderous regime that thrives on slavery and a massive rich/poor gap (even if those are scriptural texts).  If you and Steve disagree with me that blogs are an appropriate forum in which to raise concerns about these theological positions, then I suppose that we just fundamentally disagree on that one.

FWIW, I didn&#039;t see any &quot;Thou shalt not disagree with this post&quot; warnings when I read it, hence my confusion about why I wasn&#039;t allowed to raise such supposedly &quot;banal &#039;points&#039;&quot; (apparently my &#039;points&#039; have to be put in quotes to indicate that they are not like regular points without quotes around them).  In the future, I know that such a warning would help readers like me know when it is appropriate and when it isn&#039;t.

But as I said with Steve, I don&#039;t see any reason for there to be hard feelings simply because we disagree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Agreed.  I see no reason to have a petty fight.  I apologize for behaving rudely towards you at the end.</p>
<p>Brad,<br />
I have no doubt that many people see the hand of God behind all sorts of terrible things.  I would be happy to continue the discussion about whether or not it is appropriate to question those who suggest the hand of God lie behind a murderous regime that thrives on slavery and a massive rich/poor gap (even if those are scriptural texts).  If you and Steve disagree with me that blogs are an appropriate forum in which to raise concerns about these theological positions, then I suppose that we just fundamentally disagree on that one.</p>
<p>FWIW, I didn&#8217;t see any &#8220;Thou shalt not disagree with this post&#8221; warnings when I read it, hence my confusion about why I wasn&#8217;t allowed to raise such supposedly &#8220;banal &#8216;points&#8217;&#8221; (apparently my &#8216;points&#8217; have to be put in quotes to indicate that they are not like regular points without quotes around them).  In the future, I know that such a warning would help readers like me know when it is appropriate and when it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But as I said with Steve, I don&#8217;t see any reason for there to be hard feelings simply because we disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandre</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2007/12/18/pax-christiana/#comment-23421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cassandre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did  you  mean &quot;styled,&quot; and not &quot;syled&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did  you  mean &#8220;styled,&#8221; and not &#8220;syled&#8221;?</p>
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