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		<title>By: ErergeEcomylor</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39904</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lowered myself, adjoining suitably down the untying african of rubber, shattering my doggin envelope the escape britney spears naked pic with paris until it&#039;s britney spears on david letterman on nov 6 nested against the alternatively plumage of my teen sexy babes distractedly again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lowered myself, adjoining suitably down the untying african of rubber, shattering my doggin envelope the escape britney spears naked pic with paris until it&#8217;s britney spears on david letterman on nov 6 nested against the alternatively plumage of my teen sexy babes distractedly again.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, we need to make it perfectly clear that Canada does not want all the Americans who have been threatening to move here ever since Bush took power. Secondly, I have never seen &quot;round bacon&quot;. Thirdly, not all Canadians talk with an Easterner&#039;s accent. (You may be interested to know that many Americans sound like they have total hick accents. And I&#039;m not talking about Southerners. Even in Washington State some people have these nice, thick, American drawls.)

I don&#039;t know what I would do if I had the misfortune of being American (well, technically I am 1/4 American, but we&#039;ll consider that too small a proportion to be significant) and having to vote in an election. My favorite democratic candidate was Kucinich. But I am a member of the Green Party of Canada, so that&#039;s probably not surprising.

If anyone is interested in blindly finding out which candidate actually matches their viewpoints on the issues, there are several quizzes on the internet. Here&#039;s one:

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, we need to make it perfectly clear that Canada does not want all the Americans who have been threatening to move here ever since Bush took power. Secondly, I have never seen &#8220;round bacon&#8221;. Thirdly, not all Canadians talk with an Easterner&#8217;s accent. (You may be interested to know that many Americans sound like they have total hick accents. And I&#8217;m not talking about Southerners. Even in Washington State some people have these nice, thick, American drawls.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what I would do if I had the misfortune of being American (well, technically I am 1/4 American, but we&#8217;ll consider that too small a proportion to be significant) and having to vote in an election. My favorite democratic candidate was Kucinich. But I am a member of the Green Party of Canada, so that&#8217;s probably not surprising.</p>
<p>If anyone is interested in blindly finding out which candidate actually matches their viewpoints on the issues, there are several quizzes on the internet. Here&#8217;s one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dehp.net/candidate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dehp.net/candidate/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad,

I. I said Volcker lead the fight to abandon the gold standard.  That doesn&#039;t mean he intended record inflation, but it does imply he wasn&#039;t wise enough or historically literate enough to anticipate the consequences.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Coinage is imprinted gold or silver, by which the prices of things bought and sold are reckoned....It is therefore a measure of values.  A measure, however, must always preserve a fixed and constant standard.  Otherwise, public order is necessarily disturbed, with buyers and sellers being cheated in many ways, just as if the yard, bushel, or pound did not maintain an invariable magnitude.&quot;
  - Nicholas Copernicus, &quot;Treatise on Debasement&quot;, 1517&lt;/blockquote&gt;

II. The idea that the Federal Reserve would self conciously choose high interest rates in order to curb unemployment is positively ridiculous.  They would choose exactly the opposite policy, if they were going to intervene at all.

In any case, in August 1971, when Nixon (pressured by Volcker et al) abandoned the gold standard, unemployment was 6.1 percent.  When Volcker became chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979, unemployment was 6.0 percent.

He pulled the brakes on the money supply, and pulled them hard.  Did this reduce unemployment? Hardly - three years later unemployment was 10.1 percent.  It was five more years before unemployment was back to 1979 levels.

It did stop the record &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasfed.org/research/swe/1993/swe9304b.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1970s inflation&lt;/a&gt; - an inflation we never would have had if we stayed on the gold standard in the first place.  If the first rule of reserve banking is first do no harm, Volcker and the rest of the 1970s era monetary establishment were singular quacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>I. I said Volcker lead the fight to abandon the gold standard.  That doesn&#8217;t mean he intended record inflation, but it does imply he wasn&#8217;t wise enough or historically literate enough to anticipate the consequences.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Coinage is imprinted gold or silver, by which the prices of things bought and sold are reckoned&#8230;.It is therefore a measure of values.  A measure, however, must always preserve a fixed and constant standard.  Otherwise, public order is necessarily disturbed, with buyers and sellers being cheated in many ways, just as if the yard, bushel, or pound did not maintain an invariable magnitude.&#8221;<br />
  &#8211; Nicholas Copernicus, &#8220;Treatise on Debasement&#8221;, 1517</p></blockquote>
<p>II. The idea that the Federal Reserve would self conciously choose high interest rates in order to curb unemployment is positively ridiculous.  They would choose exactly the opposite policy, if they were going to intervene at all.</p>
<p>In any case, in August 1971, when Nixon (pressured by Volcker et al) abandoned the gold standard, unemployment was 6.1 percent.  When Volcker became chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979, unemployment was 6.0 percent.</p>
<p>He pulled the brakes on the money supply, and pulled them hard.  Did this reduce unemployment? Hardly &#8211; three years later unemployment was 10.1 percent.  It was five more years before unemployment was back to 1979 levels.</p>
<p>It did stop the record <a href="http://www.dallasfed.org/research/swe/1993/swe9304b.pdf" rel="nofollow">1970s inflation</a> &#8211; an inflation we never would have had if we stayed on the gold standard in the first place.  If the first rule of reserve banking is first do no harm, Volcker and the rest of the 1970s era monetary establishment were singular quacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39901</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark D. #129,
That&#039;s a pretty shallow, context-evacuated caricature of Volker&#039;s economic legacy.  The belief that high interest rates and high inflation, as self-consciously chosen policy routes, are necessary evils in order to curb rampant unemployment is not exactly market-economics heterodoxy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark D. #129,<br />
That&#8217;s a pretty shallow, context-evacuated caricature of Volker&#8217;s economic legacy.  The belief that high interest rates and high inflation, as self-consciously chosen policy routes, are necessary evils in order to curb rampant unemployment is not exactly market-economics heterodoxy.</p>
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		<title>By: annahannah</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annahannah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[round bacon,eh??  too funny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>round bacon,eh??  too funny</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Almost as impressive as talking about irrational exuberance and doing nothing about it, or recommending that everyone continue to get adjustable-rate mortgages.

Volcker&#039;s brave non-political actions in 1980 gave us Ronald Reagan.  Greenspan&#039;s craven political actions led to two terms of George W.  Who can be more proud?


By the way, in #73 I am not making the mistake of equating volatility with long term trends. I didn&#039;t equate anything. The juxtaposition was intended to point out that you don&#039;t have any idea what electricity prices will be in 2050.  You probably wouldn&#039;t have predicted 10 years ago that the price of oil, then also at a historical low, would be trading nine times higher either.

Please explain, however, what you were talking about with putting lead directly into the water. I wasn&#039;t quite following the argument by that point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost as impressive as talking about irrational exuberance and doing nothing about it, or recommending that everyone continue to get adjustable-rate mortgages.</p>
<p>Volcker&#8217;s brave non-political actions in 1980 gave us Ronald Reagan.  Greenspan&#8217;s craven political actions led to two terms of George W.  Who can be more proud?</p>
<p>By the way, in #73 I am not making the mistake of equating volatility with long term trends. I didn&#8217;t equate anything. The juxtaposition was intended to point out that you don&#8217;t have any idea what electricity prices will be in 2050.  You probably wouldn&#8217;t have predicted 10 years ago that the price of oil, then also at a historical low, would be trading nine times higher either.</p>
<p>Please explain, however, what you were talking about with putting lead directly into the water. I wasn&#8217;t quite following the argument by that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#122: Paul Volcker led the fight to take the U.S. off the gold standard, leading to the greatest inflation since the beginning of the republic, then atoned for his mistake with twenty percent interest rates and the worst economic contraction since the Depression.  Not exactly an economic record to be proud of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#122: Paul Volcker led the fight to take the U.S. off the gold standard, leading to the greatest inflation since the beginning of the republic, then atoned for his mistake with twenty percent interest rates and the worst economic contraction since the Depression.  Not exactly an economic record to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a firm believe in the idea of swapping countries for a decade. All Americans go to Canada to live, run existing businesses, institutions, and Canadian government. All Canadians go to the United States and do the same. What would happen?

Canada would come to resemble the state of Maine - with one important difference: Montreal would look like Las Vegas. And the United States would take on many characteristics of the province of New Brunswick.

E.B. White wrote a short story many years ago called &quot;The Supremacy of Uruguay.&quot; It contains many things that might happen should Canadians rule the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a firm believe in the idea of swapping countries for a decade. All Americans go to Canada to live, run existing businesses, institutions, and Canadian government. All Canadians go to the United States and do the same. What would happen?</p>
<p>Canada would come to resemble the state of Maine &#8211; with one important difference: Montreal would look like Las Vegas. And the United States would take on many characteristics of the province of New Brunswick.</p>
<p>E.B. White wrote a short story many years ago called &#8220;The Supremacy of Uruguay.&#8221; It contains many things that might happen should Canadians rule the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Hate the Canada; love the Canadian.&quot;

Didn&#039;t I hear that in Sunday School at some point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hate the Canada; love the Canadian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t I hear that in Sunday School at some point?</p>
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		<title>By: Bonzo</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/30/you-americans/#comment-39895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Canadian, too, and Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer cracks me up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Canadian, too, and Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer cracks me up.</p>
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