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		<title>By: Bev</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92736</link>
		<dc:creator>Bev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I often refer to &quot;&lt;em&gt;making&lt;/em&gt; a family home evening&quot; around our other couple friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I often refer to &#8220;<em>making</em> a family home evening&#8221; around our other couple friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92695</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clue really is a classic.  Oops, you said Clueless.

OK, that was too much of a threadjack.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clue really is a classic.  Oops, you said Clueless.</p>
<p>OK, that was too much of a threadjack.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevinf</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92696</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the threadjack got started, I&#039;ll fess up to watching the whole Jane Austen series on PBS this last month or so with my wife.  Kevin Barney, I think you&#039;re the man for watching it on your own.  Wickedly funny stuff.  I enjoyed the Emma Thompsen S&amp;S, and the 1984 BBC P&amp;P.  But for sheer enjoyment of Jane Austen, Clueless is still a classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the threadjack got started, I&#8217;ll fess up to watching the whole Jane Austen series on PBS this last month or so with my wife.  Kevin Barney, I think you&#8217;re the man for watching it on your own.  Wickedly funny stuff.  I enjoyed the Emma Thompsen S&amp;S, and the 1984 BBC P&amp;P.  But for sheer enjoyment of Jane Austen, Clueless is still a classic.</p>
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		<title>By: BeNotWeary</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92697</link>
		<dc:creator>BeNotWeary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bookwormmama:  Re:  #5
It is unfortunate that the church culture in general &quot;dances around&quot; this topic of sex.  Again, I&#039;m sure that there are some exceptions, but we teach our children to abstain and never help them realize that sex is an important part of married life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bookwormmama:  Re:  #5<br />
It is unfortunate that the church culture in general &#8220;dances around&#8221; this topic of sex.  Again, I&#8217;m sure that there are some exceptions, but we teach our children to abstain and never help them realize that sex is an important part of married life.</p>
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		<title>By: bookwormmama</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92733</link>
		<dc:creator>bookwormmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I agree with another poster above... say whatever your wife wants you to say. However, I organize our books based on subject.

2.Yes your kids are sucking the youth out of you because when you were little you did the same thing to your parents!As for keeping up with them...it isn&#039;t possible, but they do help give you an excuse for exercise without joining a gym! :]

3.Yes yes and yes! {so long as your family is also involved and enjoys it!} :}

4.My son prays on the rocking chair upside down, rocking back and forth. He thinks better while he&#039;s moving! He often prays pretending to be Bastien or Atrau from Neverending Story! :} {this is his most recent favorite character} I firmly believe Heavenly Father has a great sense of humor. Aferall, He created us didn&#039;t He?

5.I once refered to &quot;wholesome recreational activities&quot; as making love or having sex with my husband! LOL When we were watching the movie Charly together one night for FHE, my husband and I were busting up at Charly as she told the Relief Society sisters that making love with her husband is a great wholesome activity that they do to strengthen their marriage. I have said that before and we couldn&#039;t stop laughing... the shock on their faces was hysterical! Only in the mormon church can you have an entire hour&#039;s long lesson on strengthening your marriage without ever mentioning sex!! LOL Please!! We had a lesson like that just a week or two ago actually and it was like the pink elephant in the room! I still haven&#039;t ever figured that part out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I agree with another poster above&#8230; say whatever your wife wants you to say. However, I organize our books based on subject.</p>
<p>2.Yes your kids are sucking the youth out of you because when you were little you did the same thing to your parents!As for keeping up with them&#8230;it isn&#8217;t possible, but they do help give you an excuse for exercise without joining a gym! :]</p>
<p>3.Yes yes and yes! {so long as your family is also involved and enjoys it!} :}</p>
<p>4.My son prays on the rocking chair upside down, rocking back and forth. He thinks better while he&#8217;s moving! He often prays pretending to be Bastien or Atrau from Neverending Story! :} {this is his most recent favorite character} I firmly believe Heavenly Father has a great sense of humor. Aferall, He created us didn&#8217;t He?</p>
<p>5.I once refered to &#8220;wholesome recreational activities&#8221; as making love or having sex with my husband! LOL When we were watching the movie Charly together one night for FHE, my husband and I were busting up at Charly as she told the Relief Society sisters that making love with her husband is a great wholesome activity that they do to strengthen their marriage. I have said that before and we couldn&#8217;t stop laughing&#8230; the shock on their faces was hysterical! Only in the mormon church can you have an entire hour&#8217;s long lesson on strengthening your marriage without ever mentioning sex!! LOL Please!! We had a lesson like that just a week or two ago actually and it was like the pink elephant in the room! I still haven&#8217;t ever figured that part out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CraigH</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92735</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to come clean about Pride and Prejudice. Kevin, and Jennifer&#039;s husband, surely you&#039;ve read and watched it more than once (how else to memorize all the great lines?), surely you&#039;ve watched it in more than one version (how else to sit around with the likeminded and compare the various remakes in all the delightful details? I.e., Lady Catherine de Burgh was best in the 1984 version, although her coach in the A&amp;E was far superior), and surely you&#039;ve watched with your female loved ones when you might have been at a church meeting (how else to learn up close about the private lives of the male clergy?). I think I&#039;m up to 7 or 8 times on the 1984 BBC version, 3 or 4 on the more recent version shown here on A&amp;E, and among other things I&#039;ve learned infinitely much about families from the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to come clean about Pride and Prejudice. Kevin, and Jennifer&#8217;s husband, surely you&#8217;ve read and watched it more than once (how else to memorize all the great lines?), surely you&#8217;ve watched it in more than one version (how else to sit around with the likeminded and compare the various remakes in all the delightful details? I.e., Lady Catherine de Burgh was best in the 1984 version, although her coach in the A&amp;E was far superior), and surely you&#8217;ve watched with your female loved ones when you might have been at a church meeting (how else to learn up close about the private lives of the male clergy?). I think I&#8217;m up to 7 or 8 times on the 1984 BBC version, 3 or 4 on the more recent version shown here on A&amp;E, and among other things I&#8217;ve learned infinitely much about families from the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer in GA</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92734</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer in GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin-

My husband would love to watch a P&amp;P marathon with you. He was home sick one day, and I went out to run some errands. When I got home, he was already up to the second disk. (Which makes me believe he put the movie on the second I walked out the door!) Ever since then he&#039;s been more open about his love of BBC costume dramas. Which is reason #548 why I love him.

Topic? Since I&#039;m not in a &quot;leadership&quot; position for the first time in 7 years, I skipped the broadcast altogether and took my girls to the zoo instead. My husband missed it, too, but that&#039;s because he was at work, working overtime so I can be a SAHM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin-</p>
<p>My husband would love to watch a P&amp;P marathon with you. He was home sick one day, and I went out to run some errands. When I got home, he was already up to the second disk. (Which makes me believe he put the movie on the second I walked out the door!) Ever since then he&#8217;s been more open about his love of BBC costume dramas. Which is reason #548 why I love him.</p>
<p>Topic? Since I&#8217;m not in a &#8220;leadership&#8221; position for the first time in 7 years, I skipped the broadcast altogether and took my girls to the zoo instead. My husband missed it, too, but that&#8217;s because he was at work, working overtime so I can be a SAHM.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeInWeHo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeInWeHo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 13
Burbank?  Is a visa required for me to get in there?

And thanks for that thought, Tracy M (#20).  If you were my Visiting Teacher, I&#039;d serve expensive cupcakes (www.sprinklescupcakes.com) and make sure we all had a good laugh every time.  That&#039;s about all I could offer at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 13<br />
Burbank?  Is a visa required for me to get in there?</p>
<p>And thanks for that thought, Tracy M (#20).  If you were my Visiting Teacher, I&#8217;d serve expensive cupcakes (www.sprinklescupcakes.com) and make sure we all had a good laugh every time.  That&#8217;s about all I could offer at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/11/strengthening-my-family/#comment-92731</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh. I sense that some people weren&#039;t willing to give this thing a chance. : / I found it highly worthwhile and felt encouraged by it.

My stake showed the meeting twice, with explicit instructions that they hoped doing so would make it easier for parents with small children to attend. (By the way, Norbert, I have nursed a baby on the stand in stake conference, and you can ask the stake president&#039;s counselor who was sitting next to me if he was even aware I had a baby with me! I recognize that few women are as brazen as I, though, so thank goodness for streaming video in the privacy of our homes.) Yes, it could be argued that the counsel to spend more time with the family is incongruous with yet another meeting, but on the other hand -- come on, people! It&#039;s two hours on a Saturday!

I know it&#039;s easy for me to say from where I sit, but I did think they paid more than lip service to people in other than the cookie-cutter circumstances. Elder Oaks, after all, was raised in a single-parent home.

Sister Beck did say that if you have four children under age 6, it is insane to attempt more than a couple of minutes of scripture study at a time. I found that very sensible and compassionate. She also spoke about the need to be flexible. I  appreciated her insight about our view of &quot;support&quot; being backward: rather than talking about how well ward members supported an activity, we need to ask how well the activity supported the ward members.

When the discussion turned to homemaking (and Elder Holland&#039;s sons changing diapers), though, my husband and I couldn&#039;t have been the only ones thinking at Sister Beck, &quot;Come on, you know you want to say something.&quot;

Oh, by the way, I have a daughter who sometimes prays as a pirate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh. I sense that some people weren&#8217;t willing to give this thing a chance. : / I found it highly worthwhile and felt encouraged by it.</p>
<p>My stake showed the meeting twice, with explicit instructions that they hoped doing so would make it easier for parents with small children to attend. (By the way, Norbert, I have nursed a baby on the stand in stake conference, and you can ask the stake president&#8217;s counselor who was sitting next to me if he was even aware I had a baby with me! I recognize that few women are as brazen as I, though, so thank goodness for streaming video in the privacy of our homes.) Yes, it could be argued that the counsel to spend more time with the family is incongruous with yet another meeting, but on the other hand &#8212; come on, people! It&#8217;s two hours on a Saturday!</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s easy for me to say from where I sit, but I did think they paid more than lip service to people in other than the cookie-cutter circumstances. Elder Oaks, after all, was raised in a single-parent home.</p>
<p>Sister Beck did say that if you have four children under age 6, it is insane to attempt more than a couple of minutes of scripture study at a time. I found that very sensible and compassionate. She also spoke about the need to be flexible. I  appreciated her insight about our view of &#8220;support&#8221; being backward: rather than talking about how well ward members supported an activity, we need to ask how well the activity supported the ward members.</p>
<p>When the discussion turned to homemaking (and Elder Holland&#8217;s sons changing diapers), though, my husband and I couldn&#8217;t have been the only ones thinking at Sister Beck, &#8220;Come on, you know you want to say something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, I have a daughter who sometimes prays as a pirate.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unmarried with no children, and I actually enjoyed the broadcast.  Elder Oaks seemed to keep it pretty real, emphasizing that it is up to the individual person to make the best choice for their family.  In fact, it felt like the whole thing was pretty focused on the fact that there is NO perfect family, and everyone is going to live the gospel a little differently.  I have raved about it in other places, so I won&#039;t do it again here, but it really was a breath of fresh air for me.

(Ironically, meetings about how to raise children are probably easiest to attend by those without them...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unmarried with no children, and I actually enjoyed the broadcast.  Elder Oaks seemed to keep it pretty real, emphasizing that it is up to the individual person to make the best choice for their family.  In fact, it felt like the whole thing was pretty focused on the fact that there is NO perfect family, and everyone is going to live the gospel a little differently.  I have raved about it in other places, so I won&#8217;t do it again here, but it really was a breath of fresh air for me.</p>
<p>(Ironically, meetings about how to raise children are probably easiest to attend by those without them&#8230;)</p>
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