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	<title>Comments on: God&#8217;s Fisherman</title>
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		<title>By: Stirling</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81682</link>
		<dc:creator>Stirling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this time of the year in 1838, Woodruff was in Maine &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/b/ww_h3.phtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;records gathering clams &lt;/a&gt;in low tide.

This weekend we&#039;re headed to Maine, not for clams but to go smelt fishing on the Kennebec river. We&#039;ll fish the late tide (9:48 pm to 4 am) from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://maine.gov/dmr/recreational/smeltcamps/worthings.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ice shack &lt;/a&gt;(the river still has 30 inches of ice). Mark,iIf you&#039;re available and interested let me know and we can talk details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this time of the year in 1838, Woodruff was in Maine <a href="http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/b/ww_h3.phtml" rel="nofollow">records gathering clams </a>in low tide.</p>
<p>This weekend we&#8217;re headed to Maine, not for clams but to go smelt fishing on the Kennebec river. We&#8217;ll fish the late tide (9:48 pm to 4 am) from an <a href="http://maine.gov/dmr/recreational/smeltcamps/worthings.htm" rel="nofollow">ice shack </a>(the river still has 30 inches of ice). Mark,iIf you&#8217;re available and interested let me know and we can talk details.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81681</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Pres. Monson enjoys fly fishing.  I remember recently reading that he and Jon Huntsman fished together.

Another reason to go fly fishing, so I can follow a prophet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Pres. Monson enjoys fly fishing.  I remember recently reading that he and Jon Huntsman fished together.</p>
<p>Another reason to go fly fishing, so I can follow a prophet.</p>
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		<title>By: peetie</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81680</link>
		<dc:creator>peetie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A relative of the emeritus GA Royden Derrick reported that other GA&#039;s gave him gas over his perpetual absence from the first session of General Conference in the Fall. Why did he miss the session? It&#039;s the opening day of the Duck &amp; Goose hunt in Utah.

I&#039;ve used that story as an excuse (along with, &quot;I&#039;ll read it later,&quot; or, &quot;I&#039;ll just TiVo it&quot;) many times, myself, for the same activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A relative of the emeritus GA Royden Derrick reported that other GA&#8217;s gave him gas over his perpetual absence from the first session of General Conference in the Fall. Why did he miss the session? It&#8217;s the opening day of the Duck &amp; Goose hunt in Utah.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used that story as an excuse (along with, &#8220;I&#8217;ll read it later,&#8221; or, &#8220;I&#8217;ll just TiVo it&#8221;) many times, myself, for the same activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81679</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…there’s three things we’re never late for: church, work, and fishing.”

That describes my dad and my maternal grandpa perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…there’s three things we’re never late for: church, work, and fishing.”</p>
<p>That describes my dad and my maternal grandpa perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81678</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great tribute to a wonderful man.  Like Brighan Young, I shake my head when I think of the time Wilford Woodruff presided over the church and how much he did in the circumstances.  Not to highjack the thread, but I couldn&#039;t help but think of some quotes from A River Runs Through it:

&quot; In my family, there was no clear division between religion and fly fishing.&quot;

&quot;My father was very sure about certain matters pertaining to the universe. To him, all good things - trout as well as eternal salvation - came by grace&quot;

&quot;...there&#039;s three things we&#039;re never late for: church, work, and fishing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great tribute to a wonderful man.  Like Brighan Young, I shake my head when I think of the time Wilford Woodruff presided over the church and how much he did in the circumstances.  Not to highjack the thread, but I couldn&#8217;t help but think of some quotes from A River Runs Through it:</p>
<p>&#8221; In my family, there was no clear division between religion and fly fishing.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My father was very sure about certain matters pertaining to the universe. To him, all good things &#8211; trout as well as eternal salvation &#8211; came by grace&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;there&#8217;s three things we&#8217;re never late for: church, work, and fishing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lxxluthor</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81677</link>
		<dc:creator>lxxluthor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post. I&#039;m sending this around to my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post. I&#8217;m sending this around to my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81665</link>
		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to break into this male discussion.

I have a book called Three Mormon Classics. It includes &quot;Leaves From My Journal&quot; by Wilford Woodruff and also sections on George Q Cannon and Jacob Hamblin.

I&#039;ve read it many times but never picked up on the fish thing. I did have a memory of a lot of water stories though, so on opening the book randomly I find an account of Wilford Woodruff&#039;s missionary work in the Fox Islands off the coast of Maine. He describes the field of his labors including the following:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Great quantities of fish, and in almost endless variety, inhabit the coves and harbors around the island. The whale, blackfish, shark, ground shark, pilot-fish, horse mackerel, sturgeon, salmon, halibut, cod, pollock, tom cod, hake, haddock, mackerel, shad bass, alewife, herring, pohagen, dolphin, whiting, frost-fish, flounder, smelt, skate, shrimp, skid, cusk, blueback, scollop, dogfish, muttonfish, lumpfish, squid, five-fingers, monkfish, horsefish, sunfish, swordfish, thresher, cat, scupog, tootog, eyefish, cunner, ling, also the eel, lobster, clam, muscle, periwinkle, porpoise, seal, etc., are found there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Definitely someone who would take naturally to the field of oceanography or limnology.

A little later he tells the following story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;One day Elder Hale and I ascended to the top of a high granite rock upon the South Island for prayer and supplication. We sat down under the shade of a pine tree which grew out of a fissure in a rock, and Elder Hale read the 16th chapter of Jeremiah, where mention is made of the hunters and fishers that God would send in the last days to gather Israel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(I&#039;m sure we don&#039;t need to spend much brainpower wondering whether he saw himself as a hunter or fisher.) He continues:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Of a truth, here we were upon an island of the sea, standing upon a rock where we could survey the gallant ships and also the islands...And what had brought us here? To search out the blood of Ephraim, the honest and meek of the earth, and gather them from those islands...unto Zion.

We prayed and rejoiced together. The Spirit of God rested upon us...and we rejoiced that we were upon the islands of the sea searching out the blood of Israel.

While being filled with these meditations and the Spirit of God, we fell upon our knees and gave thanks to the God of heaven, and felt to pray for all Israel.

After spending most of the day in praise and thanksgiving, we descended to the settlement and held a meeting with the people.

On the 6th of September we called upon Captain Benjamin Coombs, and visited his flakes, where he had one thousand quintals of codfish drying for the market....While we were passing Carvey&#039;s Wharf our attention was called to a large school of mackerel playing by the side of the wharf. Several men were pitching them out with hooks. We also flung in a hook and caught all we wanted, then went on our way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I could keep looking for more examples, but this comment is long enough already. Thanks for the fun discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to break into this male discussion.</p>
<p>I have a book called Three Mormon Classics. It includes &#8220;Leaves From My Journal&#8221; by Wilford Woodruff and also sections on George Q Cannon and Jacob Hamblin.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read it many times but never picked up on the fish thing. I did have a memory of a lot of water stories though, so on opening the book randomly I find an account of Wilford Woodruff&#8217;s missionary work in the Fox Islands off the coast of Maine. He describes the field of his labors including the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>Great quantities of fish, and in almost endless variety, inhabit the coves and harbors around the island. The whale, blackfish, shark, ground shark, pilot-fish, horse mackerel, sturgeon, salmon, halibut, cod, pollock, tom cod, hake, haddock, mackerel, shad bass, alewife, herring, pohagen, dolphin, whiting, frost-fish, flounder, smelt, skate, shrimp, skid, cusk, blueback, scollop, dogfish, muttonfish, lumpfish, squid, five-fingers, monkfish, horsefish, sunfish, swordfish, thresher, cat, scupog, tootog, eyefish, cunner, ling, also the eel, lobster, clam, muscle, periwinkle, porpoise, seal, etc., are found there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Definitely someone who would take naturally to the field of oceanography or limnology.</p>
<p>A little later he tells the following story:</p>
<blockquote><p>One day Elder Hale and I ascended to the top of a high granite rock upon the South Island for prayer and supplication. We sat down under the shade of a pine tree which grew out of a fissure in a rock, and Elder Hale read the 16th chapter of Jeremiah, where mention is made of the hunters and fishers that God would send in the last days to gather Israel.</p></blockquote>
<p>(I&#8217;m sure we don&#8217;t need to spend much brainpower wondering whether he saw himself as a hunter or fisher.) He continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of a truth, here we were upon an island of the sea, standing upon a rock where we could survey the gallant ships and also the islands&#8230;And what had brought us here? To search out the blood of Ephraim, the honest and meek of the earth, and gather them from those islands&#8230;unto Zion.</p>
<p>We prayed and rejoiced together. The Spirit of God rested upon us&#8230;and we rejoiced that we were upon the islands of the sea searching out the blood of Israel.</p>
<p>While being filled with these meditations and the Spirit of God, we fell upon our knees and gave thanks to the God of heaven, and felt to pray for all Israel.</p>
<p>After spending most of the day in praise and thanksgiving, we descended to the settlement and held a meeting with the people.</p>
<p>On the 6th of September we called upon Captain Benjamin Coombs, and visited his flakes, where he had one thousand quintals of codfish drying for the market&#8230;.While we were passing Carvey&#8217;s Wharf our attention was called to a large school of mackerel playing by the side of the wharf. Several men were pitching them out with hooks. We also flung in a hook and caught all we wanted, then went on our way.</p></blockquote>
<p>I could keep looking for more examples, but this comment is long enough already. Thanks for the fun discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: NatC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81676</link>
		<dc:creator>NatC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used this to introduce the Pres. Woodruff manual in priesthood. As the son and grandson of passionate fishermen, I loved knowing this about Pres. Woodruff.

For those interested, a good book in this genre is &quot;Fly Fishing Through The Midlife Crisis&quot; by Howell Raines, former editor of the N Y Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used this to introduce the Pres. Woodruff manual in priesthood. As the son and grandson of passionate fishermen, I loved knowing this about Pres. Woodruff.</p>
<p>For those interested, a good book in this genre is &#8220;Fly Fishing Through The Midlife Crisis&#8221; by Howell Raines, former editor of the N Y Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/02/29/gods-fisherman/#comment-81675</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what Norbert said.  This simply was cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what Norbert said.  This simply was cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s the coolest thing I&#039;ve read in ages. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the coolest thing I&#8217;ve read in ages. Thanks.</p>
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