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	<title>Comments on: The Father and the Son are Jehovah</title>
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		<title>By: StillConfused</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StillConfused]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Mormons believe that it was Jesus behind the burning bush?  That is so freaky to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mormons believe that it was Jesus behind the burning bush?  That is so freaky to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter LLC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter LLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The identification of Jesus as the God of the Old Testament is at best a minor point of current Mormon orthodoxy, but probably shouldn’t be treated as a genuinely settled part of the Mormon gospel message.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The current Liahona (I assume Ensign as well) seems to treat it both as a fairly major point and as one pretty settled. From the article &quot;Plain and Precious Truths&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;8. Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. From the Bible: John 8:58; Genesis 22:14; 1 Corinthians 10:1–44. From latter-day Scripture and Prophets: &quot;He was the great Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Creator who, under the direction of His Father, made all things.&quot; (Gordon B. Hinckley, &quot;A Season for Gratitude,&quot; &lt;em&gt;Liahona&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Ensign&lt;/em&gt;, Dec.1997, 4; see also Abraham 2:8)&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The identification of Jesus as the God of the Old Testament is at best a minor point of current Mormon orthodoxy, but probably shouldn’t be treated as a genuinely settled part of the Mormon gospel message.</p></blockquote>
<p>The current Liahona (I assume Ensign as well) seems to treat it both as a fairly major point and as one pretty settled. From the article &#8220;Plain and Precious Truths&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>8. Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. From the Bible: John 8:58; Genesis 22:14; 1 Corinthians 10:1–44. From latter-day Scripture and Prophets: &#8220;He was the great Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Creator who, under the direction of His Father, made all things.&#8221; (Gordon B. Hinckley, &#8220;A Season for Gratitude,&#8221; <em>Liahona</em> and <em>Ensign</em>, Dec.1997, 4; see also Abraham 2:8)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Todd Wood</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too late.  :)

Ronan, this is an awesome topic.

You have got me so excited, I can hardly sit in my chair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late.  :)</p>
<p>Ronan, this is an awesome topic.</p>
<p>You have got me so excited, I can hardly sit in my chair.</p>
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		<title>By: RonanJH</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RonanJH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Todd,
Quote not me. I&#039;m a lousy theologian. The post intended only to raise questions, not answer them. I think in matters of God&#039;s nature, we see through a glass, darkly. I&#039;m happy with this and wish Mormons would resist the urge to systematise. One thing I will pin my faith on, though: &lt;em&gt;God&lt;/em&gt; condescended to Earth in Jesus. All the rest is mere dressing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,<br />
Quote not me. I&#8217;m a lousy theologian. The post intended only to raise questions, not answer them. I think in matters of God&#8217;s nature, we see through a glass, darkly. I&#8217;m happy with this and wish Mormons would resist the urge to systematise. One thing I will pin my faith on, though: <em>God</em> condescended to Earth in Jesus. All the rest is mere dressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Wood</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I post today on &quot;the true God&quot; and I come over here to find this highly provocative post.

Ronan, I need to start quoting you in Ammon, Idaho.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I post today on &#8220;the true God&#8221; and I come over here to find this highly provocative post.</p>
<p>Ronan, I need to start quoting you in Ammon, Idaho.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Goble</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Goble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umm.  Quoting a Wiki isn&#039;t exactly a strong counter-argument considering how they are made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm.  Quoting a Wiki isn&#8217;t exactly a strong counter-argument considering how they are made.</p>
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		<title>By: bbell</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also this Wiki article semems to contradict your post as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhead_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also this Wiki article semems to contradict your post as well</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhead_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhead_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29</a></p>
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		<title>By: RonanJH</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RonanJH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, but there&#039;s a radical difference...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58.</em></p>
<p>Yes, but there&#8217;s a radical difference&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bbell</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronan,

My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58. I agree with them and find that the correlated materials back this idea up.  Also is there not a 1915 or so FP statement on the godhead that is the basis for our understanding of the situation now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronan,</p>
<p>My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58. I agree with them and find that the correlated materials back this idea up.  Also is there not a 1915 or so FP statement on the godhead that is the basis for our understanding of the situation now?</p>
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		<title>By: john f.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john f.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;given that Moses intends to be a prologue to Moses’ own revelatory career, would you say that it was the Father rather than the Son who appeared to Moses elsewhere (burning bush, Sinai)?&lt;/i&gt;

Why would that need to follow?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>given that Moses intends to be a prologue to Moses’ own revelatory career, would you say that it was the Father rather than the Son who appeared to Moses elsewhere (burning bush, Sinai)?</i></p>
<p>Why would that need to follow?</p>
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