Comments on: The Father and the Son are Jehovah http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/ A Mormon Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:16:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: StillConfused http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57604 StillConfused Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:13:52 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57604 So Mormons believe that it was Jesus behind the burning bush? That is so freaky to me! So Mormons believe that it was Jesus behind the burning bush? That is so freaky to me!

]]> By: Peter LLC http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57603 Peter LLC Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:59:33 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57603 <blockquote>The identification of Jesus as the God of the Old Testament is at best a minor point of current Mormon orthodoxy, but probably shouldn’t be treated as a genuinely settled part of the Mormon gospel message.</blockquote> The current Liahona (I assume Ensign as well) seems to treat it both as a fairly major point and as one pretty settled. From the article "Plain and Precious Truths": <blockquote>8. Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. From the Bible: John 8:58; Genesis 22:14; 1 Corinthians 10:1–44. From latter-day Scripture and Prophets: "He was the great Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Creator who, under the direction of His Father, made all things." (Gordon B. Hinckley, "A Season for Gratitude," <em>Liahona</em> and <em>Ensign</em>, Dec.1997, 4; see also Abraham 2:8)</blockquote>

The identification of Jesus as the God of the Old Testament is at best a minor point of current Mormon orthodoxy, but probably shouldn’t be treated as a genuinely settled part of the Mormon gospel message.

The current Liahona (I assume Ensign as well) seems to treat it both as a fairly major point and as one pretty settled. From the article “Plain and Precious Truths”:

8. Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. From the Bible: John 8:58; Genesis 22:14; 1 Corinthians 10:1–44. From latter-day Scripture and Prophets: “He was the great Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Creator who, under the direction of His Father, made all things.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, “A Season for Gratitude,” Liahona and Ensign, Dec.1997, 4; see also Abraham 2:8)

]]> By: Todd Wood http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57602 Todd Wood Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:57:18 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57602 Too late. :) Ronan, this is an awesome topic. You have got me so excited, I can hardly sit in my chair. Too late. :)

Ronan, this is an awesome topic.

You have got me so excited, I can hardly sit in my chair.

]]> By: RonanJH http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57601 RonanJH Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:30:44 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57601 Todd, Quote not me. I'm a lousy theologian. The post intended only to raise questions, not answer them. I think in matters of God's nature, we see through a glass, darkly. I'm happy with this and wish Mormons would resist the urge to systematise. One thing I will pin my faith on, though: <em>God</em> condescended to Earth in Jesus. All the rest is mere dressing. Todd,
Quote not me. I’m a lousy theologian. The post intended only to raise questions, not answer them. I think in matters of God’s nature, we see through a glass, darkly. I’m happy with this and wish Mormons would resist the urge to systematise. One thing I will pin my faith on, though: God condescended to Earth in Jesus. All the rest is mere dressing.

]]> By: Todd Wood http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57600 Todd Wood Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:26:38 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57600 I post today on "the true God" and I come over here to find this highly provocative post. Ronan, I need to start quoting you in Ammon, Idaho. :) I post today on “the true God” and I come over here to find this highly provocative post.

Ronan, I need to start quoting you in Ammon, Idaho. :)

]]> By: Clark Goble http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57599 Clark Goble Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:14:31 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57599 Umm. Quoting a Wiki isn't exactly a strong counter-argument considering how they are made. Umm. Quoting a Wiki isn’t exactly a strong counter-argument considering how they are made.

]]> By: bbell http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57598 bbell Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:37:22 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57598 also this Wiki article semems to contradict your post as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhead_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29 also this Wiki article semems to contradict your post as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhead_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29

]]> By: RonanJH http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57597 RonanJH Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:36:53 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57597 <em>My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58.</em> Yes, but there's a radical difference... My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58.

Yes, but there’s a radical difference…

]]> By: bbell http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57596 bbell Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:35:03 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57596 Ronan, My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58. I agree with them and find that the correlated materials back this idea up. Also is there not a 1915 or so FP statement on the godhead that is the basis for our understanding of the situation now? Ronan,

My evangelical buddies believe that Jesus is the God of the OT based on John 8:58. I agree with them and find that the correlated materials back this idea up. Also is there not a 1915 or so FP statement on the godhead that is the basis for our understanding of the situation now?

]]> By: john f. http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/09/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57595 john f. Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:01:27 +0000 http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/03/the-father-and-the-son-are-jehovah/#comment-57595 <i>given that Moses intends to be a prologue to Moses’ own revelatory career, would you say that it was the Father rather than the Son who appeared to Moses elsewhere (burning bush, Sinai)?</i> Why would that need to follow? given that Moses intends to be a prologue to Moses’ own revelatory career, would you say that it was the Father rather than the Son who appeared to Moses elsewhere (burning bush, Sinai)?

Why would that need to follow?

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