Comments on: Your Friday Firestorm #39

By: BobW

BobW — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:59:49 +0000

I had always wanted to use the SoS in a contextual setting. A few years ago I had the opportunity to say a few words at my daughter’s wedding. I read a beautiful verse and shed tears while reading it for them.

What greater expression of love can there be than bodies and spirits united? Is this not why bodies are important? If you say that the body is simply to be overcome, as in the natural man, you have missed the point, I think. Why do we think that we have to have a body to be perfected? Is it not to perfect our happiness?

Can we not sing praises to the body and to its love? In my understanding one of the beauties of the SoS is its quality of equality, both man and woman being equally inflamed and in love. This idea of reciprocity is the underpinning of the equality of the sexes in our society. Imagine if the SoS were also in the Koran….

A sexist society can not tolerate reciprocity in love.

By: MCQ

MCQ — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:59:51 +0000

Mike, having been to West Hollywood, I think it’s “safe to say” that, yeah, it’s a lot like being on another planet.

Susan #10, thank you, thank you, thank you.

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:49:29 +0000

LOL, Mike. If it helps, I bet even more people have to look up WeHo to figure out that one.

By: MikeInWeHo

MikeInWeHo — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:10:32 +0000

You know what, Steve? I had to look up the wiki entry on March Madness to even know what you were referencing, and I still don’t quite understand why a basketball tournament makes “nothing safe to say.” It’s like I’m on another planet.

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:46:18 +0000

Mike, it’s March Madness. NOTHING is safe to say. But, yeah.

By: MikeInWeHo

MikeInWeHo — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:35:23 +0000

re: 23 Stevie, is it safe to say that adding “safe to say” to a question often implies that one already has an answer in mind?

By: Kevinf

Kevinf — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:34:08 +0000

Oops, Try here.

By: oops

oops — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:16:20 +0000

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Bruce R. McConkie’s speech? It sounds like fun. :)

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:06:26 +0000

Mikey, it was just a question. He could have just said “no.”

By: MikeInWeHo

MikeInWeHo — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:59:41 +0000

re: 23 – 24

Yikes. I feel a need to defend Nick here. He doesn’t seem “obsessed with human sexuality” to me, but of course I’m not from a “mainstream LDS perspective” so what do I know. But one might argue that Steve Evans is hardly “mainstream LDS” either based on much of he writes. Or does holding a TR make you de facto mainstream no matter what?

Here’s what I HAVE noticed: Many LDS seem quite obsessed with porn. Not looking at it; rather, talking about it, ruminating about it and warning against it ad nauseam. Then lo-and-behold, apparently there’s this huge problem with “porn addiction.”

As a person who lives in a secular and very liberal environment, it’s odd that the only time I ever give the topic a thought is when I’m blogging in here.

There’s something really weird and unhealthy going on vis-a-vis conservative Christians (including the LDS) and porn. The underlying psychodynamics merit further discussion.