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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia-  I am very familiar with  Morgan Spurlock&#039;s modus operandi. Around 2002-2003, he was in the Detroit- Ann Arbo r area lookingfor folks to goand spens 30 days living with a traditional ,  fundamentalist  family. Spurlock&#039;s  goal was to show  that Americans were over-reacting to the Sept 11 attacks, that  Radical Islam wasnt a problem,and white Americans were racists against all Muslims. I  saw an ad in both themajor Detroit papers,and  went to the auditions, held in the Marriot in downtown Dearborn, Mi.
They  interviewed me, found out that I had lived in the UAE for a year  when a teenager,and was very familiar with Islam, familiar with the modern history of the mid-east, and had taken 2 classes with prof Juan Cole, at the Univ of Michigan. I  was immediately rejected. about  18 months later,  when the show was aired, I realised that they had chosen the most ignorant, stupid type of redneck yahoos they could find!!!! Spurlock&#039;s goal was to try to whitewash islamic extremist/fundamentalist  ideology and to  be an apologist, so he chose the 2 Americans who would  portray the worse that American society has to offer.
-Sid( my real name)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia-  I am very familiar with  Morgan Spurlock&#8217;s modus operandi. Around 2002-2003, he was in the Detroit- Ann Arbo r area lookingfor folks to goand spens 30 days living with a traditional ,  fundamentalist  family. Spurlock&#8217;s  goal was to show  that Americans were over-reacting to the Sept 11 attacks, that  Radical Islam wasnt a problem,and white Americans were racists against all Muslims. I  saw an ad in both themajor Detroit papers,and  went to the auditions, held in the Marriot in downtown Dearborn, Mi.<br />
They  interviewed me, found out that I had lived in the UAE for a year  when a teenager,and was very familiar with Islam, familiar with the modern history of the mid-east, and had taken 2 classes with prof Juan Cole, at the Univ of Michigan. I  was immediately rejected. about  18 months later,  when the show was aired, I realised that they had chosen the most ignorant, stupid type of redneck yahoos they could find!!!! Spurlock&#8217;s goal was to try to whitewash islamic extremist/fundamentalist  ideology and to  be an apologist, so he chose the 2 Americans who would  portray the worse that American society has to offer.<br />
-Sid( my real name)</p>
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		<title>By: sister blah 2</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77165</link>
		<dc:creator>sister blah 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Ronin. That&#039;s why I said &quot;oh no!&quot; to myself in the opening seconds of the show when she was first identified as LDS--I knew there was almost no chance it could turn out well. I think it&#039;s the kind of thing that we&#039;re better off avoiding since the game is rather stacked against participants. I feel that way about ALL reality TV.

-Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Ronin. That&#8217;s why I said &#8220;oh no!&#8221; to myself in the opening seconds of the show when she was first identified as LDS&#8211;I knew there was almost no chance it could turn out well. I think it&#8217;s the kind of thing that we&#8217;re better off avoiding since the game is rather stacked against participants. I feel that way about ALL reality TV.</p>
<p>-Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77164</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the &quot;30 Days&quot; program, and I am not surprised that the LDS housewife came off poorly. Morgan Spurlock&#039;s program is made to ambush  people,and bring out the worse in them. And  he makes it a point to not  feature people who are smart and articulate and educated and who can think on their feet.
the result was predictable,and Morgan Spurlock achieved  what he wanted- i.e. to portray  our Church and its members as a bunch of ignorant and prejudiced yahoos.
Iwant at all surprised to see what happened to the LDS housewife. At least I hope she was smart enough to have negotiated a good compensation package for her troubles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the &#8220;30 Days&#8221; program, and I am not surprised that the LDS housewife came off poorly. Morgan Spurlock&#8217;s program is made to ambush  people,and bring out the worse in them. And  he makes it a point to not  feature people who are smart and articulate and educated and who can think on their feet.<br />
the result was predictable,and Morgan Spurlock achieved  what he wanted- i.e. to portray  our Church and its members as a bunch of ignorant and prejudiced yahoos.<br />
Iwant at all surprised to see what happened to the LDS housewife. At least I hope she was smart enough to have negotiated a good compensation package for her troubles.</p>
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		<title>By: kristine N</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77163</link>
		<dc:creator>kristine N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Amri, the comment you ascribe to me is true (I have wondered how I would handle being asked to engage in polygamy and kind of prepared myself mentally for the &quot;eventuality&quot; of that, while it&#039;s not even on my husband&#039;s radar) even if I didn&#039;t write it.

Nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Amri, the comment you ascribe to me is true (I have wondered how I would handle being asked to engage in polygamy and kind of prepared myself mentally for the &#8220;eventuality&#8221; of that, while it&#8217;s not even on my husband&#8217;s radar) even if I didn&#8217;t write it.</p>
<p>Nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jami</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amri, That blog sucked an hour of my life away. It is so seriously funny.

On the Californian Sunday: Our ward was talking about Zeezrom and &quot;the doctrines of the world&quot; when I had the sudden prompting to ditch Sunday School and check on my baby in the nursery. Good thing I did too. Otherwise, my head might have blown up and that would&#039;ve been ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amri, That blog sucked an hour of my life away. It is so seriously funny.</p>
<p>On the Californian Sunday: Our ward was talking about Zeezrom and &#8220;the doctrines of the world&#8221; when I had the sudden prompting to ditch Sunday School and check on my baby in the nursery. Good thing I did too. Otherwise, my head might have blown up and that would&#8217;ve been ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know- that bummed me out too- I was hoping her heart would be a little softer towards the families she was experiencing.

Although I suppose some would claim she is holding to the rod, and I&#039;m lost in the wilderness with my misfiring compass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know- that bummed me out too- I was hoping her heart would be a little softer towards the families she was experiencing.</p>
<p>Although I suppose some would claim she is holding to the rod, and I&#8217;m lost in the wilderness with my misfiring compass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77160</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was dishearening to hear about the 30 days program.  When you first mentioned it I was hoping that actual, personal experience with such a loving family would have had an influence on the woman, but it was not to be.

You know, I think that if I had to, I could be a brother-husband to someone in a polyandrous marriage.  Not that it&#039;s something I would &lt;em&gt;want &lt;/em&gt;to do, or that I think it would be at all easy.  But I&#039;m descended from polygamists, and I figure if they could do it, I could do it--even from the perspective of having to share a spouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was dishearening to hear about the 30 days program.  When you first mentioned it I was hoping that actual, personal experience with such a loving family would have had an influence on the woman, but it was not to be.</p>
<p>You know, I think that if I had to, I could be a brother-husband to someone in a polyandrous marriage.  Not that it&#8217;s something I would <em>want </em>to do, or that I think it would be at all easy.  But I&#8217;m descended from polygamists, and I figure if they could do it, I could do it&#8211;even from the perspective of having to share a spouse.</p>
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		<title>By: blt</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77159</link>
		<dc:creator>blt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,
Yeah, it was absolutely typical . . . if you ignore the fact that you have hooves instead of feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,<br />
Yeah, it was absolutely typical . . . if you ignore the fact that you have hooves instead of feet.</p>
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		<title>By: blt</title>
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		<dc:creator>blt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia,
Nice job.  I am seriously considering Scientology after watching the train wreck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia,<br />
Nice job.  I am seriously considering Scientology after watching the train wreck.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/07/03/zeitcast-20/#comment-77157</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much enjoyed this zeitcast.  Nice job of hosting, Brad.

Thanks for the insight into what is perhaps the hardest question to answer among my non-LDS friends.  Since I live in Texas, there has been great interest in this topic.  I finally started telling people that polygamy was an economic principle since there were more women than men and women didn&#039;t have many rights in the 1800s.  That satisfies most casual questioners and I don&#039;t have to get into the fact that I don&#039;t understand &quot;Nauvoo polygamy&quot; myself.

I do have journals from some polygamous ancestors.  The wives were sisters; the oldest sister consented for the younger sister to be a plural wife.  I almost felt bad for GGgrandpa.  He was nearly henpecked to death.

I&#039;ve read a few books about early Mormon history and most of the women involved in polygamy support and defend it.  I am glad I&#039;m not called on to try it at this point, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoyed this zeitcast.  Nice job of hosting, Brad.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight into what is perhaps the hardest question to answer among my non-LDS friends.  Since I live in Texas, there has been great interest in this topic.  I finally started telling people that polygamy was an economic principle since there were more women than men and women didn&#8217;t have many rights in the 1800s.  That satisfies most casual questioners and I don&#8217;t have to get into the fact that I don&#8217;t understand &#8220;Nauvoo polygamy&#8221; myself.</p>
<p>I do have journals from some polygamous ancestors.  The wives were sisters; the oldest sister consented for the younger sister to be a plural wife.  I almost felt bad for GGgrandpa.  He was nearly henpecked to death.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a few books about early Mormon history and most of the women involved in polygamy support and defend it.  I am glad I&#8217;m not called on to try it at this point, however.</p>
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