Comments on: Music and Lyrics

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:28:18 +0000

I always thought it referred to revelation and our window into the Understanding of God. The song is about revelation and the magnificent restoration at it’s heart. It makes less sense to think God is changing so much as our relationship to him is.

By: Bro. Jones

Bro. Jones — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:50:00 +0000

Re: #27

Given that we have no comprehension of the vastness of God’s glory, and only a limited understanding of the physical mechanisms that created and drive the universe, I’d feel uncomfortable placing any kind of stricture on God’s knowledge.

By: Johnna Cornett

Johnna Cornett — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:08:11 +0000

I love it! you have saved the song for me.

By: Margaret Young

Margaret Young — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:55:33 +0000

I’ve loved these insights into the Kirtland Temple and the additional verse to the song.

I must admit, attaching a number like 2,555,000,000 to God’s supervising the universe seems straight out of _Inherit the Wind_. I think Mormons would tend to think of God’s “progress” as pertaining to the progress of His children. That quote from Elder McConkie doesn’t resonate with me at all–except that it seems harsh.

By: John Mansfield

John Mansfield — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:19:52 +0000

Elder McConkie’s argument is one I find compelling. I also think John Horgan is right about an End of Science.

Why anyone should suppose that an infinite and eternal being who has presided in our universe for almost 2,555,000,000 years, who made the sidereal heavens, whose creations are more numerous than the particles of the earth, and who is aware of the fall of every sparrow–why anyone would suppose that such a being has more to learn and new truths to discover in the laboratories of eternity is totally beyond my comprehension.

Will he one day learn something that will destroy the plan of salvation and turn man and the universe into an uncreated nothingness? Will he discover a better plan of salvation than the one he has already given to men in worlds without number?

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:49:05 +0000

Deacon, I’m not sure that because McConkie classified it as a heresy that that it is particularly cleared up. There is heresy to go around, and he was not immune.

By: Deacon

Deacon — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:41:59 +0000

I have always thought these lyrics were about the knowledge of God is expanding through the world in the missionary context. Some of the early leaders hypothesised how God’s own knowledge may be expanding. Clearly this was opinion which was cleared up shortly after and more recently in Bruce R. McKonkie’s “Seven Deadly Heresies”

By: Left Field

Left Field — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:51:44 +0000

The Encyclopedia of Mormonism says that the Hosanna Shout is to be "given to the full limit of one's strength," and I've always done so, to heck with whatever everyone else does. I was once involved in a discussion on another forum with someone who said that it couldn't be shouted because you have to be reverent in the temple. Aaargh! I happen to think it's irreverent to mumble the Hosanna Shout.

By: Carlos U.

Carlos U. — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:30:19 +0000

I’m with 1 and 2.

By: Kevin Barney

Kevin Barney — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:12:59 +0000

My first Hosanna Shout was at the dedication of the Chicago Temple. What a disappointment. In my naivete I had thought it would be an actual shout, and I was really looking forward to it. False advertising.