Comments on: Prop-8-imonies

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:25:09 +0000

I find it inexpressibly sad that Steve has booted someone who is more in tune with God than the church leaders (and who is sad about it). I expect Evans to be hit by Biblical plagues any moment. Swallowed by a giant fish. Turned into a pillar of salt. Hell, he’s already been spoken to by a talking ass or two. Clearly, the last days are upon us.

In expectation of Steve’s quick and gruesome demise, I’m going to temporarily shut comments in this thread, for a cooling off period of a day or so. I’ll reopen them after, and hopefully a more productive discussion will ensue. Also, we will be able to mourn Steve’s sad demise of being torn apart by bears.

By: SteveS

SteveS — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:21:59 +0000

So sad. I’m sorry that Andrew felt like ratcheting up the conversation to say things that get him blocked from the BCC, but you have to admit that his comments weren’t without provocation. I think we can do better. Andrew made some good points, imo, before saying things he might not have otherwise said.

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:10:55 +0000

Good-bye, Andrew. Your open disdain for the Church and for its leadership make it clear that your continued participation at BCC is not welcome.

By: Andrew Callahan

Andrew Callahan — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:07:06 +0000

Eric,
I actually find it SAD that I am more in tune with God than the leadership of the church.

I don’t have my own church. I don’t take people’s money and not tell them what I’m doing with it. I don’t tell them how they MUST live their lives or they will suffer eternal consequences. I try to live a Christ-like life, and live and let live. I do find it objectionable, however, when my church leaders seem incapable of reading their own scriptures and their own history and taking the simple straightforward lessons from the past.

But thank you, I’m glad you find me awesome. And, for the record, I find it disrespectful of you to refer to President Monson as “old Tommy.”

By: SteveS

SteveS — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:00:59 +0000

Aw man, is this turning into a shouting match? Let’s try not to insult each other, please.

By: Eric Russell

Eric Russell — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:49:00 +0000

Andrew Callahan,

I think it is awesome that you are more in tune with God than the leadership of the church. I just wish you had told us earlier so we could start following you instead of old Tommy.

What is your church called and at what time do you meet?

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:48:54 +0000

If am to follow a fallible human, I would rather it be a prophet of God than some dude running a website.

Sure, but you seem to forget — this is a _group_ blog.

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:43:06 +0000

Andrew asks,

“Isn’t it a church teaching that polygamy wasn’t illegal in the US, but that it (and by extension we) were legislated against after the Church started up the practice. So, if it’s happened before, it can happen again.”

No.

It’s possible that some random Sunday School teacher says this. However, it’s not correct as a matter of law or of history.

By: Mike Parker

Mike Parker — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:41:39 +0000

“Sunday school at 10, Bible study at 11, Debate at two-thirty. Bring it.”

LOL! Sign me up!

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:37:17 +0000

Hellmut and cowboy, no church is an open forum for debate. None. Religious communities do not work that way. They exist for entirely different purposes.

And this is a real shame. In fact, I think I may have to step into this market niche. So, nothing against Mormonism, but I’m going to found The Church of Debate. I can probably get Brad to help me out.

Our marquee will read:

“Sunday school at 10, Bible study at 11, Debate at two-thirty. Bring it.”