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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, janeannechovy!  I made the assembled horde do &quot;He Trusted in God...&quot; in our Stake&#039;s production last year--even with people sightreading, it sounded better than &quot;For Unto Us&quot; usually does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, janeannechovy!  I made the assembled horde do &#8220;He Trusted in God&#8230;&#8221; in our Stake&#8217;s production last year&#8211;even with people sightreading, it sounded better than &#8220;For Unto Us&#8221; usually does.</p>
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		<title>By: janeannechovy</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/17/do-it-yourself-messiahs/#comment-26778</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve participated in upwards of 20 singalong Messiahs, starting when in my home stake when I was a tweener.  At this point I know the music pretty well--not memorized, but well enough not to get tripped up in the tricky parts and sing along pretty smoothly.  My favorite I&#039;ve attended was the one in Avery Fisher Hall in NYC, closely followed by the one here in Portland at the Schnitz with the Oregon Symphony (which I attended with a half-dozen or so members of my immediate family and which included local opera star Richard Zeller on the bass solos).

My stake here used to do a singalong, but then the best accompanist in the state (not a typo) moved out of the stake, and the stake music director decided people were tired of it (I wasn&#039;t).  When we used to have it, there was always the question of what to do about the solos.  One time they had people volunteer to do them, which worked okay, except that at least one person grumbled that they actually had to listen for three minutes instead of singing all the time (yeah, whatever, get over yourself).  We had one time where they had whole sections sing the solos, and then they opted to skip all the solos and just do the choruses (a grievous error, imo).  So now they don&#039;t do a singalong any more, per se, but my husband was scheduled to conduct the Hallelujah Chorus at our (canceled-because-of-snow) stake Christmas Choirfest.

My issue with singalongs is the many choruses with extensive melismas, a la For Unto Us a Child Is Born.  Middling singers can get most of the non-melismatic choruses, but those measures and measures of rapidly-moving 16th notes are beyond the ability of all but the most-skilled.  I advocate skipping them altogether, and substituting some of the more interesting but less-sung choruses, especially the run of perfectly fugal ones in I think part II.  Why spend all that energy futilely trying to not butcher &quot;For Unto Us&quot; when you could be learning &quot;He Trusted in God that He Would Deliver Him&quot; (No. 28)?

I vote we have a Messiah Singalong at Sunstone.  Just have to find a skilled-enough pianist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve participated in upwards of 20 singalong Messiahs, starting when in my home stake when I was a tweener.  At this point I know the music pretty well&#8211;not memorized, but well enough not to get tripped up in the tricky parts and sing along pretty smoothly.  My favorite I&#8217;ve attended was the one in Avery Fisher Hall in NYC, closely followed by the one here in Portland at the Schnitz with the Oregon Symphony (which I attended with a half-dozen or so members of my immediate family and which included local opera star Richard Zeller on the bass solos).</p>
<p>My stake here used to do a singalong, but then the best accompanist in the state (not a typo) moved out of the stake, and the stake music director decided people were tired of it (I wasn&#8217;t).  When we used to have it, there was always the question of what to do about the solos.  One time they had people volunteer to do them, which worked okay, except that at least one person grumbled that they actually had to listen for three minutes instead of singing all the time (yeah, whatever, get over yourself).  We had one time where they had whole sections sing the solos, and then they opted to skip all the solos and just do the choruses (a grievous error, imo).  So now they don&#8217;t do a singalong any more, per se, but my husband was scheduled to conduct the Hallelujah Chorus at our (canceled-because-of-snow) stake Christmas Choirfest.</p>
<p>My issue with singalongs is the many choruses with extensive melismas, a la For Unto Us a Child Is Born.  Middling singers can get most of the non-melismatic choruses, but those measures and measures of rapidly-moving 16th notes are beyond the ability of all but the most-skilled.  I advocate skipping them altogether, and substituting some of the more interesting but less-sung choruses, especially the run of perfectly fugal ones in I think part II.  Why spend all that energy futilely trying to not butcher &#8220;For Unto Us&#8221; when you could be learning &#8220;He Trusted in God that He Would Deliver Him&#8221; (No. 28)?</p>
<p>I vote we have a Messiah Singalong at Sunstone.  Just have to find a skilled-enough pianist.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve L</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/17/do-it-yourself-messiahs/#comment-26777</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attended the San Jose edition many moons ago. . .

This year attended at the Carmel Basilica.  The only accompaniment was a lone pianist.  Polyphonic passages were problematic with the acoustics of the venue.  They had us all sing the soloist&#039;s part in select arias.  Travesty, fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attended the San Jose edition many moons ago. . .</p>
<p>This year attended at the Carmel Basilica.  The only accompaniment was a lone pianist.  Polyphonic passages were problematic with the acoustics of the venue.  They had us all sing the soloist&#8217;s part in select arias.  Travesty, fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I attended one in Prove years ago. I&#039;ve never been to another but when I read blogs I listen to some of the pieces on YouTube.  Not close to the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended one in Prove years ago. I&#8217;ve never been to another but when I read blogs I listen to some of the pieces on YouTube.  Not close to the same.</p>
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		<title>By: CAW</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve sung the Messiah with the Houston Symphony Chorus for many years with a top notch orchestra and soloists.  So I&#039;m someone with &quot;musical sensibilities,&quot; but I still really enjoy a Messiah sing-along -- high brow or home grown.  When my schedule doesn&#039;t permit me to sing the professional version, I always try to find a sing-along, because singing the Messiah touches my soul in a way that listening to it doesn&#039;t quite reach.

When I lived in Boston long ago, our Cambridge ward had a tradition of doing a Messiah sing-along joining with the Quaker community next door.  It was great fun.  Soloists came up from the audience impromptu -- sometimes sharing the solo part with someone else if two people volunteered for the same solo.  I shared the piano duties with another pianist and on some choruses we both played together on the tricky parts -- one of us playing treble and the other bass parts.  It was exhilarating.  Certainly not a great musical performance of the Messiah, but a fun experience of people getting together to share in the spirit of that wonderful music.

I&#039;m sitting in the audience of the Houston Symphony&#039;s performance this weekend, and I know I&#039;ll be wishing I was up on the stage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sung the Messiah with the Houston Symphony Chorus for many years with a top notch orchestra and soloists.  So I&#8217;m someone with &#8220;musical sensibilities,&#8221; but I still really enjoy a Messiah sing-along &#8212; high brow or home grown.  When my schedule doesn&#8217;t permit me to sing the professional version, I always try to find a sing-along, because singing the Messiah touches my soul in a way that listening to it doesn&#8217;t quite reach.</p>
<p>When I lived in Boston long ago, our Cambridge ward had a tradition of doing a Messiah sing-along joining with the Quaker community next door.  It was great fun.  Soloists came up from the audience impromptu &#8212; sometimes sharing the solo part with someone else if two people volunteered for the same solo.  I shared the piano duties with another pianist and on some choruses we both played together on the tricky parts &#8212; one of us playing treble and the other bass parts.  It was exhilarating.  Certainly not a great musical performance of the Messiah, but a fun experience of people getting together to share in the spirit of that wonderful music.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting in the audience of the Houston Symphony&#8217;s performance this weekend, and I know I&#8217;ll be wishing I was up on the stage.</p>
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		<title>By: gillsyk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In California, our friends used to do a do-it-yourself performance of Messiah excerpts at &lt;em&gt;Easter&lt;/em&gt; time. Think about it -- that&#039;s really an appropriate season for this music. I&#039;m surprised it gets so little play then.

Our friends had two pianos in their living room, and lots of superb musicians, amateur and professional, lived among the members there. But it was definitely a homey adventure for the participants. We&#039;d dooby-doo the trumpet parts when there were no brass that year...

As for #24: here in Tucson the Symphony&#039;s Christmas extravaganza includes a performance of the Jalapeno Chorus (Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Ja-laaaa-peno! Enchiladas! Corn tortillas! and on and on).  It would be harmless piffle if it were simply some Baroque warhorse, and not Messiah. I&#039;m with Kristine in finding it sacrilege to abuse this music.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In California, our friends used to do a do-it-yourself performance of Messiah excerpts at <em>Easter</em> time. Think about it &#8212; that&#8217;s really an appropriate season for this music. I&#8217;m surprised it gets so little play then.</p>
<p>Our friends had two pianos in their living room, and lots of superb musicians, amateur and professional, lived among the members there. But it was definitely a homey adventure for the participants. We&#8217;d dooby-doo the trumpet parts when there were no brass that year&#8230;</p>
<p>As for #24: here in Tucson the Symphony&#8217;s Christmas extravaganza includes a performance of the Jalapeno Chorus (Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Jalapeno! Ja-laaaa-peno! Enchiladas! Corn tortillas! and on and on).  It would be harmless piffle if it were simply some Baroque warhorse, and not Messiah. I&#8217;m with Kristine in finding it sacrilege to abuse this music.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Duffin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you imagine how wonderful it would be to perform a Messiah in the temple? They danced in the Nauvoo temple, why not do a performance of The Messiah in the temple?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine how wonderful it would be to perform a Messiah in the temple? They danced in the Nauvoo temple, why not do a performance of The Messiah in the temple?</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I followed the link expecting a treatise on the virtues of our soon-to-be President.  Instead, I get a plug for something even worse-- advocacy for singing great music poorly.  Sing-a-longs are for scouting trips and girls camp where the most sophisticated number performed is &quot;Row, Row, Row Your Boat&quot; in a round.  One should earn the right to perform great music through discipline and practice.  This do-it-yourself stuff inflicts a great disservice on society by normalizing mediocrity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed the link expecting a treatise on the virtues of our soon-to-be President.  Instead, I get a plug for something even worse&#8211; advocacy for singing great music poorly.  Sing-a-longs are for scouting trips and girls camp where the most sophisticated number performed is &#8220;Row, Row, Row Your Boat&#8221; in a round.  One should earn the right to perform great music through discipline and practice.  This do-it-yourself stuff inflicts a great disservice on society by normalizing mediocrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, tomorrow night I&#039;ll be attending an event that is more in line with Kristine&#039;s sensibilities.  It&#039;s called Songs of Good Cheer and it is a Christmas carol sing-along event.  About a decade ago Mary Schmich, a columnist for the Chicago Tribune, was lamenting that people don&#039;t get together to sing Christmas carols anymore.  Her fellow columnist Eric Zorn decided to do something about it, and they organized Songs of Good Cheer for charity.  I&#039;ve been every year.  They&#039;ve all been held at the Old Town School of Folk Music (with musicians from the school providing the instrumentation), although this year they&#039;re doing it in the larger Harris Theater at Millennium Park.  It is tremendous fun, and no great singing chops required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, tomorrow night I&#8217;ll be attending an event that is more in line with Kristine&#8217;s sensibilities.  It&#8217;s called Songs of Good Cheer and it is a Christmas carol sing-along event.  About a decade ago Mary Schmich, a columnist for the Chicago Tribune, was lamenting that people don&#8217;t get together to sing Christmas carols anymore.  Her fellow columnist Eric Zorn decided to do something about it, and they organized Songs of Good Cheer for charity.  I&#8217;ve been every year.  They&#8217;ve all been held at the Old Town School of Folk Music (with musicians from the school providing the instrumentation), although this year they&#8217;re doing it in the larger Harris Theater at Millennium Park.  It is tremendous fun, and no great singing chops required.</p>
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		<title>By: ESO</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I last did a Messiah sing-along at the Kennedy Center in DC.  I loved it!  They have professional orchestra, rehearsed choir on stage, and pro soloists and conductor and everyone in the audience sings the choruses from their scores (sold on site if you don&#039;t bring your own).  I had learned my part many years previously, so I was not perfect, but not sight-singing.  But I am sure there were people there who didn&#039;t know the parts.  Who cares?  They didn&#039;t stick out to me.  It is a thrill to sing such glorious music in such a large group.  At any Christmas event, I would MUCH rather sing than be sung to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I last did a Messiah sing-along at the Kennedy Center in DC.  I loved it!  They have professional orchestra, rehearsed choir on stage, and pro soloists and conductor and everyone in the audience sings the choruses from their scores (sold on site if you don&#8217;t bring your own).  I had learned my part many years previously, so I was not perfect, but not sight-singing.  But I am sure there were people there who didn&#8217;t know the parts.  Who cares?  They didn&#8217;t stick out to me.  It is a thrill to sing such glorious music in such a large group.  At any Christmas event, I would MUCH rather sing than be sung to.</p>
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