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	<title>Comments on: Blood, Water, and Spirit</title>
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		<title>By: Tracy M</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114737</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, John.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114736</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have died from hemorrhaging after the birth of my firstborn if not for the blessing my husband gave me commanding me to live, so I&#039;m especially sensitive to the risks mothers take when giving birth.  My own experience led me to think of childbirth and the atonement in a similar way.  Thanks for the reminder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have died from hemorrhaging after the birth of my firstborn if not for the blessing my husband gave me commanding me to live, so I&#8217;m especially sensitive to the risks mothers take when giving birth.  My own experience led me to think of childbirth and the atonement in a similar way.  Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: JA Benson</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114735</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you John.  Your thoughts are original (at least to me) and thought provoking.  Merry Christmas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you John.  Your thoughts are original (at least to me) and thought provoking.  Merry Christmas</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, John.  I think this is a Christmas post I will remember for a long time - like Brad&#039;s last year that still pops into my mind occasionally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John.  I think this is a Christmas post I will remember for a long time &#8211; like Brad&#8217;s last year that still pops into my mind occasionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114733</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John--a great read. Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8211;a great read. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114732</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, this post is fabulous. I&#039;ve been pondering about Mary this year more than any other year; wondering how she would have felt having her very first experience with child birth (it&#039;s VERY scary the first time, I believe. Well, at least it was for me! By the fourth child, it&#039;s still hard/nerve-wracking, but it&#039;s not as scary because it&#039;s no longer the &quot;unknown&quot;). And I absolutely love the idea of blood, water, and Spirit.

Beautiful. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, this post is fabulous. I&#8217;ve been pondering about Mary this year more than any other year; wondering how she would have felt having her very first experience with child birth (it&#8217;s VERY scary the first time, I believe. Well, at least it was for me! By the fourth child, it&#8217;s still hard/nerve-wracking, but it&#8217;s not as scary because it&#8217;s no longer the &#8220;unknown&#8221;). And I absolutely love the idea of blood, water, and Spirit.</p>
<p>Beautiful. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: John C.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the clarification, smb.  Let this be a lesson regarding the use of Wikipedia to you all.

Susan, that is a beautiful statue.  Thank you for sharing that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification, smb.  Let this be a lesson regarding the use of Wikipedia to you all.</p>
<p>Susan, that is a beautiful statue.  Thank you for sharing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neat post, John.

I visited Bob Hope&#039;s grave recently. He&#039;s buried at the San Fernando (Catholic) Mission, one of the historical Missions of California, in the Bob Hope Memorial Garden. Above his grave is a statue of Joseph, Mary, and Christ as a baby. Maybe I&#039;m not too familiar with Catholic depictions of Mary, but it struck me as really unique and interesting. You can see a picture &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/whenigodeaf/3131417513/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;of it here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat post, John.</p>
<p>I visited Bob Hope&#8217;s grave recently. He&#8217;s buried at the San Fernando (Catholic) Mission, one of the historical Missions of California, in the Bob Hope Memorial Garden. Above his grave is a statue of Joseph, Mary, and Christ as a baby. Maybe I&#8217;m not too familiar with Catholic depictions of Mary, but it struck me as really unique and interesting. You can see a picture <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/whenigodeaf/3131417513/" rel="nofollow">of it here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114729</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice post. thanks for reminder of travails.
minor medical errata: &quot;pre&lt;em&gt;e&lt;/em&gt;clampsia&quot;, sepsis=bacterial infection, embolisms=thromboembolic disease (aka blood clots), and, rarely amniotic fluid embolism, obstetrical hemorrhages=peripartum hemorrhage.
and strictly speaking ectopic pregnancies don&#039;t cause death during childbirth.
ok to delete errata.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post. thanks for reminder of travails.<br />
minor medical errata: &#8220;pre<em>e</em>clampsia&#8221;, sepsis=bacterial infection, embolisms=thromboembolic disease (aka blood clots), and, rarely amniotic fluid embolism, obstetrical hemorrhages=peripartum hemorrhage.<br />
and strictly speaking ectopic pregnancies don&#8217;t cause death during childbirth.<br />
ok to delete errata.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/23/blood-water-and-spirit/#comment-114728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always loved that verset in Moses (&quot;For by the water ye keep the commandment; by the Spirit ye are justified, and by the blood ye are sanctified&quot;).  I had never, ever thought to apply it in the way you have today. John C.  Thanks for the beautiful post.

So, today, I would alter the angel&#039;s exclamation to Nephi, and say, &quot;Behold the condescension of Mary!&quot;  Ave, ave Maria, indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always loved that verset in Moses (&#8220;For by the water ye keep the commandment; by the Spirit ye are justified, and by the blood ye are sanctified&#8221;).  I had never, ever thought to apply it in the way you have today. John C.  Thanks for the beautiful post.</p>
<p>So, today, I would alter the angel&#8217;s exclamation to Nephi, and say, &#8220;Behold the condescension of Mary!&#8221;  Ave, ave Maria, indeed.</p>
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