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		<title>By: Nitsav</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitsav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/how-to-teach-yourself-hebrew-from-scratch-part-iii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part III&lt;/a&gt; of teaching yourself Hebrew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/how-to-teach-yourself-hebrew-from-scratch-part-iii/" rel="nofollow">Part III</a> of teaching yourself Hebrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BrianJ, knowing enough to spot the BS could be a good idea, hadn&#039;t thought of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianJ, knowing enough to spot the BS could be a good idea, hadn&#8217;t thought of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s shaping up as a great series, Nitsav.  Great advice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s shaping up as a great series, Nitsav.  Great advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitsav</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitsav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part 2 of teaching yourself.

http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/how-to-teach-yourself-hebrew-from-scratch-part-ii/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part 2 of teaching yourself.</p>
<p><a href="http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/how-to-teach-yourself-hebrew-from-scratch-part-ii/" rel="nofollow">http://faithpromotingrumor.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/how-to-teach-yourself-hebrew-from-scratch-part-ii/</a></p>
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		<title>By: StillConfused</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26851</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a beginning Hebrew class at the Salt Lake Jewish Community Center that starts on January 20.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a beginning Hebrew class at the Salt Lake Jewish Community Center that starts on January 20.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob J: While I have no hope of ever &quot;mastering&quot; OT Hebrew, I still plan to become an amateur. Here&#039;s why:

1) To be better able to distinguish good commentary from b.s. A few years ago, anyone in church on Sunday could make whatever lexical argument they wanted and I wouldn&#039;t have had any idea whether they were on to something or just stirring Koolaid. Now I know some of the rudimentary tools and I can at least spot the obvious imposters.

2) What little I have learned of Hebrew has shown that the OT is written in beautiful language. I think some novice-level Hebrew would be fun if only for aesthetic enjoyment of the scriptures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob J: While I have no hope of ever &#8220;mastering&#8221; OT Hebrew, I still plan to become an amateur. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>1) To be better able to distinguish good commentary from b.s. A few years ago, anyone in church on Sunday could make whatever lexical argument they wanted and I wouldn&#8217;t have had any idea whether they were on to something or just stirring Koolaid. Now I know some of the rudimentary tools and I can at least spot the obvious imposters.</p>
<p>2) What little I have learned of Hebrew has shown that the OT is written in beautiful language. I think some novice-level Hebrew would be fun if only for aesthetic enjoyment of the scriptures.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon in Tennessee</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon in Tennessee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick question to all persons above and interested parties reading:
(1)I personally would find it interesting to have a finite overview / discussion on translations / interpretations that have &quot;come to light&quot; with the guidence of the Holy Ghost...
Example:  Brief overview of dictionary meanings of words in passaged in Revelation....when every possible definition and description is explored...
do always show a context of deeper spiritual meaning....and ALWAYS, within the whole (compound) give a pretty true celestial nature of the original word. (In addition to other languages..meaning specifically the &quot;insight revelatory addition) to same?
(2)  The dictionary I use (own 3 copies) is remarkably clear and distinctive in it&#039;s applicable references to &quot;higher&quot; and &quot;quantitative&quot; meanings...whether the Mathematical one, astronomical one, &amp; so forth.
It is The Reader&#039;s Digest Great Encyclopedic Dictionary with inclusions from Funk &amp; Wagnalls &amp; Standard College Dictionary.
.....So.....are there any suggestions about a really SUPERIOR one that would reflect advancements upon my thusfar findings?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question to all persons above and interested parties reading:<br />
(1)I personally would find it interesting to have a finite overview / discussion on translations / interpretations that have &#8220;come to light&#8221; with the guidence of the Holy Ghost&#8230;<br />
Example:  Brief overview of dictionary meanings of words in passaged in Revelation&#8230;.when every possible definition and description is explored&#8230;<br />
do always show a context of deeper spiritual meaning&#8230;.and ALWAYS, within the whole (compound) give a pretty true celestial nature of the original word. (In addition to other languages..meaning specifically the &#8220;insight revelatory addition) to same?<br />
(2)  The dictionary I use (own 3 copies) is remarkably clear and distinctive in it&#8217;s applicable references to &#8220;higher&#8221; and &#8220;quantitative&#8221; meanings&#8230;whether the Mathematical one, astronomical one, &amp; so forth.<br />
It is The Reader&#8217;s Digest Great Encyclopedic Dictionary with inclusions from Funk &amp; Wagnalls &amp; Standard College Dictionary.<br />
&#8230;..So&#8230;..are there any suggestions about a really SUPERIOR one that would reflect advancements upon my thusfar findings?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I&#039;m amazed at how many of us went through Griggs&#039; New Testament class.  I loved that he required everyone to read the assigned reading in both the KJV and another translation.  Mainly for the reasons TT points out, I have never gotten excited about learning Hebrew or Greek.  I know I&#039;m never going to devote enough time to really master one of those languages, so I am content to read commentaries and multiple translations (along with Kevin Barney&#039;s Notes on the New Testament).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m amazed at how many of us went through Griggs&#8217; New Testament class.  I loved that he required everyone to read the assigned reading in both the KJV and another translation.  Mainly for the reasons TT points out, I have never gotten excited about learning Hebrew or Greek.  I know I&#8217;m never going to devote enough time to really master one of those languages, so I am content to read commentaries and multiple translations (along with Kevin Barney&#8217;s Notes on the New Testament).</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@44: the appearance of Greek, mingled with scripture, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@44: the appearance of Greek, mingled with scripture, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: oudenos</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2008/12/26/learning-biblical-languages/#comment-26846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oudenos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TT is right.  One or two or even four years of Greek is hardly enough to qualify as authoritative, especially when those years are self taught years.  You simply can&#039;t compare learning NT Greek from a primer with taking multiple years of the hard stuff while mixing in some Greek composition courses for good measure.

As for the magical Greek phenomenon, just last year a highly intelligent law student was teaching SS in my ward and he busted out some Greekiology that was outright BS.  The whole thing was bizarre: he was being totally dishonest with his assertion that he &quot;looked this verse up in the Greek&quot; (he doesn&#039;t read Greek), the mostly grad-student audience didn&#039;t challenge him on it but lapped it up wholesale, and his appeal to &quot;the Greek&quot; didn&#039;t really bolster the particular point which he was trying to make.  Weird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT is right.  One or two or even four years of Greek is hardly enough to qualify as authoritative, especially when those years are self taught years.  You simply can&#8217;t compare learning NT Greek from a primer with taking multiple years of the hard stuff while mixing in some Greek composition courses for good measure.</p>
<p>As for the magical Greek phenomenon, just last year a highly intelligent law student was teaching SS in my ward and he busted out some Greekiology that was outright BS.  The whole thing was bizarre: he was being totally dishonest with his assertion that he &#8220;looked this verse up in the Greek&#8221; (he doesn&#8217;t read Greek), the mostly grad-student audience didn&#8217;t challenge him on it but lapped it up wholesale, and his appeal to &#8220;the Greek&#8221; didn&#8217;t really bolster the particular point which he was trying to make.  Weird.</p>
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