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		<title>By: Steven P</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108426</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful Margaret! Yes let us all remember. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful Margaret! Yes let us all remember. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108425</link>
		<dc:creator>Norbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Instead,  they rose as one body and solemnly sang, “A Mighty Fortress Is Our God.”  I wonder if they still do that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not to my knowledge. My wife thinks her very pious grandmother might have done so at some point. There is a tradition of melting some tin and dropping it in water and seeing what shape forms, creating a prediction for the coming year, but I&#039;ve never done it.

We have sauna, of course, eat little sausages and watch the fireworks around the neighborhood.

We did start a new tradition this year, which I am calling The Desecration. The men of the family devour whatever sections of the gingerbread house are deemed edible until they can eat no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Instead,  they rose as one body and solemnly sang, “A Mighty Fortress Is Our God.”  I wonder if they still do that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not to my knowledge. My wife thinks her very pious grandmother might have done so at some point. There is a tradition of melting some tin and dropping it in water and seeing what shape forms, creating a prediction for the coming year, but I&#8217;ve never done it.</p>
<p>We have sauna, of course, eat little sausages and watch the fireworks around the neighborhood.</p>
<p>We did start a new tradition this year, which I am calling The Desecration. The men of the family devour whatever sections of the gingerbread house are deemed edible until they can eat no more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would really like it if we got rid of &quot;The heathen nations bow the knee,&quot; in &quot;Come, O Thou King of Kings.&quot;  It would be easy to change to &quot;And all the nations bow...&quot; or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like it if we got rid of &#8220;The heathen nations bow the knee,&#8221; in &#8220;Come, O Thou King of Kings.&#8221;  It would be easy to change to &#8220;And all the nations bow&#8230;&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: bfwebster</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108423</link>
		<dc:creator>bfwebster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The text for &quot;God of Our Fathers&quot; is Kipling&#039;s poem, &quot;Recessional&quot;. He was asked to write a poem to celebrate Queen Victoria&#039;s diamond jubilee (60th year as Queen of England); the poem he produced, &quot;Recessional&quot; (named after the hymn sung by a choir as it leaves the chapel), was frankly a pointed (and prescient) jab at the self-satisfied British Empire. Needless to say, Queen Victoria was not amused.

Note, by the way, that Kipling doesn&#039;t use the phrase &quot;Heathen nations&quot; in the poem. He does refer to &quot;heathen heart&quot; in the last verse, but that clearly refers to his own countrymen who &quot;put [their] trust in reeking tube and iron shard&quot;, i.e., modern weaponry, rather than in God. Still a prescient poem today (cf. Pres. Kimball&#039;s 1976 talk, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nauvoo.com/library/kimball-false.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The False Gods We Worship&quot;&lt;/a&gt;). ..bruce..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text for &#8220;God of Our Fathers&#8221; is Kipling&#8217;s poem, &#8220;Recessional&#8221;. He was asked to write a poem to celebrate Queen Victoria&#8217;s diamond jubilee (60th year as Queen of England); the poem he produced, &#8220;Recessional&#8221; (named after the hymn sung by a choir as it leaves the chapel), was frankly a pointed (and prescient) jab at the self-satisfied British Empire. Needless to say, Queen Victoria was not amused.</p>
<p>Note, by the way, that Kipling doesn&#8217;t use the phrase &#8220;Heathen nations&#8221; in the poem. He does refer to &#8220;heathen heart&#8221; in the last verse, but that clearly refers to his own countrymen who &#8220;put [their] trust in reeking tube and iron shard&#8221;, i.e., modern weaponry, rather than in God. Still a prescient poem today (cf. Pres. Kimball&#8217;s 1976 talk, <a href="http://www.nauvoo.com/library/kimball-false.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The False Gods We Worship&#8221;</a>). ..bruce..</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That final passage you added, Margaret, reminds me of President Kimball&#039;s chastisement of Mormons for being a &quot;warlike people,&quot; around the time of the MX missile affair.

We are heathens, all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That final passage you added, Margaret, reminds me of President Kimball&#8217;s chastisement of Mormons for being a &#8220;warlike people,&#8221; around the time of the MX missile affair.</p>
<p>We are heathens, all!</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Young</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108421</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grammarian--thanks for the catch.  Of course, I meant confetti, not graffiti.  (Of all the things I&#039;ve lost with aging, I miss my mind the most.)

Molly--I&#039;ll have to look up the other verses.  I always figured there was just that one.  Thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grammarian&#8211;thanks for the catch.  Of course, I meant confetti, not graffiti.  (Of all the things I&#8217;ve lost with aging, I miss my mind the most.)</p>
<p>Molly&#8211;I&#8217;ll have to look up the other verses.  I always figured there was just that one.  Thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: jeans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108420</link>
		<dc:creator>jeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kipling&#039;s poem &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White Man&#039;s Burden&lt;/a&gt;&quot; might be appropos also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kipling&#8217;s poem &#8220;<a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html" rel="nofollow">White Man&#8217;s Burden</a>&#8221; might be appropos also?</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Bennion</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108419</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly Bennion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former Lutheran that I am, I am not at all surprised by &quot;A Mighty Fortress.&quot;  It is such a Lutheran favorite.  I wish we sang more of the verses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Lutheran that I am, I am not at all surprised by &#8220;A Mighty Fortress.&#8221;  It is such a Lutheran favorite.  I wish we sang more of the verses.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca J</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108418</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;God of Our Fathers Known of Old&quot; is my husband&#039;s favorite hymn.  I wish we sang it more.  Like, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;God of Our Fathers Known of Old&#8221; is my husband&#8217;s favorite hymn.  I wish we sang it more.  Like, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/01/07/new-years-eve-celebrations/#comment-108417</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year, Margaret, and thanks for this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, Margaret, and thanks for this post.</p>
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