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		<title>By: B Tippetts</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-127709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B Tippetts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us not label each other as liberal or conservative but try to understand our social gospel .   Please visit my blog at www.mormonzionproject.wordpress.com.  

Read below.    

As Latter-day Saints, we come from a heritage of people who had “a vision of a different world, a world where injustice and oppression, poverty and ignorance would be dispelled and a world where men and women would be brothers and sisters” (Alexander B. Morrison, in Church News [14 Oct. 1995]: 4). We have been urged by Church leaders to work towards making that vision a reality in today’s world by being “full participants in political, governmental, and community affairs,” “using gospel principles as a guide and...cooperating with other like-minded individuals” (First Presidency letter, 15 Jan. 1998, in Ensign [Apr. 1998]: 77). 

LDS scripture and prophetic teaching speak out strongly for social justice: for peace, equality, democracy, human rights, and wise stewardship of the earth’s resources. Latter-day Saints are enjoined to “plead the cause of the poor and the needy” (D&amp;C 124:75) and to work towards a society in which “there [are] no poor among [us]” (Moses 7:18). We are challenged to “renounce war and proclaim peace” (D&amp;C 98:16). The Book of Mormon teaches that “there should be an equality among all” (Mosiah 27:3) and calls us to stand against racism, gender inequity, and injustice on the principle that “black and white, bond and free, male and female;...all are alike unto God” (2 Nephi 26:33). The scriptures commend democracy, constitutional law, and human rights (Mosiah 29:26; D&amp;C 98:5; D&amp;C 101:77), while speaking harshly against inequity, exploitation, oppression, and violence (2 Nephi 20:1-2; 3 Nephi 24:5; D&amp;C 38:26; Moses 8:28). Scripture teaches us that we are stewards of the earth and its resources, which should be used “with judgment, not to excess” (D&amp;C 59:20). 

As Latter-day Saints, we seek the guidance of the Spirit and look to the teachings of Church leaders in our efforts to achieve equality and social justice in our communities and the world at large]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not label each other as liberal or conservative but try to understand our social gospel .   Please visit my blog at <a href="http://www.mormonzionproject.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mormonzionproject.wordpress.com</a>.  </p>
<p>Read below.    </p>
<p>As Latter-day Saints, we come from a heritage of people who had “a vision of a different world, a world where injustice and oppression, poverty and ignorance would be dispelled and a world where men and women would be brothers and sisters” (Alexander B. Morrison, in Church News [14 Oct. 1995]: 4). We have been urged by Church leaders to work towards making that vision a reality in today’s world by being “full participants in political, governmental, and community affairs,” “using gospel principles as a guide and&#8230;cooperating with other like-minded individuals” (First Presidency letter, 15 Jan. 1998, in Ensign [Apr. 1998]: 77). </p>
<p>LDS scripture and prophetic teaching speak out strongly for social justice: for peace, equality, democracy, human rights, and wise stewardship of the earth’s resources. Latter-day Saints are enjoined to “plead the cause of the poor and the needy” (D&amp;C 124:75) and to work towards a society in which “there [are] no poor among [us]” (Moses 7:18). We are challenged to “renounce war and proclaim peace” (D&amp;C 98:16). The Book of Mormon teaches that “there should be an equality among all” (Mosiah 27:3) and calls us to stand against racism, gender inequity, and injustice on the principle that “black and white, bond and free, male and female;&#8230;all are alike unto God” (2 Nephi 26:33). The scriptures commend democracy, constitutional law, and human rights (Mosiah 29:26; D&amp;C 98:5; D&amp;C 101:77), while speaking harshly against inequity, exploitation, oppression, and violence (2 Nephi 20:1-2; 3 Nephi 24:5; D&amp;C 38:26; Moses 8:28). Scripture teaches us that we are stewards of the earth and its resources, which should be used “with judgment, not to excess” (D&amp;C 59:20). </p>
<p>As Latter-day Saints, we seek the guidance of the Spirit and look to the teachings of Church leaders in our efforts to achieve equality and social justice in our communities and the world at large</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Hunter</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-127683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;After all, if members (and leaders) of the Church seek inspiration in voting, and if 80-90% of active members (and perhaps leaders) in the U.S. regularly vote for conservative candidates and positions, isn’t that pretty good evidence that political conservatism must be correct?&quot;

Or it could be seen as a symptom of just how pervasive the conflation of conservative political views with Mormon theology is. 

I have only met a small hand full of people who begin to understand the distinction between ideology and theology and the serious problems that occur when they are combined.  This being the case rather than discussing liberalism as a political ideology in relation to LDS theology, I think we may want to emphasize the significance, productivity and value of liberal theology itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After all, if members (and leaders) of the Church seek inspiration in voting, and if 80-90% of active members (and perhaps leaders) in the U.S. regularly vote for conservative candidates and positions, isn’t that pretty good evidence that political conservatism must be correct?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or it could be seen as a symptom of just how pervasive the conflation of conservative political views with Mormon theology is. </p>
<p>I have only met a small hand full of people who begin to understand the distinction between ideology and theology and the serious problems that occur when they are combined.  This being the case rather than discussing liberalism as a political ideology in relation to LDS theology, I think we may want to emphasize the significance, productivity and value of liberal theology itself.</p>
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		<title>By: esodhiambo</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[esodhiambo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think of being a liberal LDS as a non-stop missionary exercise.  I like to demonstrate to  my friends that you don&#039;t have to be an uptight Republican to be Mormon and I like to demonstrate to my ward that you can be a faithful Christian and lefty.  As has been amply said, so many on each side don&#039;t realize you can be both, and do them both well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of being a liberal LDS as a non-stop missionary exercise.  I like to demonstrate to  my friends that you don&#8217;t have to be an uptight Republican to be Mormon and I like to demonstrate to my ward that you can be a faithful Christian and lefty.  As has been amply said, so many on each side don&#8217;t realize you can be both, and do them both well.</p>
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		<title>By: Azúcar</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azúcar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#63 -- Amen and Hallelujah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63 &#8212; Amen and Hallelujah.</p>
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		<title>By: Azúcar</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azúcar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love being a liberal in a conservative culture; it&#039;s delightful.

Then again, I&#039;m ever the contrarian and I love a meaty discussion on progressive views.   

I do get right angry when it&#039;s even suggested that I&#039;m not a faithful member because of my beliefs.   Look, if you&#039;re going to call me to repentance, like some nut case did on my brief political statement after the &#039;08 election, I&#039;m going to challenge you right back.   I don&#039;t mind people who come by their political beliefs with honest thought; it&#039;s the mindless line repeating and the absolutely horrific tendency to nearly deify saturnine demagogues that riles me.

I see nothing incongruous with my progressive tendencies and my faith.  In fact, I&#039;m more than a little shocked that there aren&#039;t more of my brothers and sisters who feel the same way that I do. 

You&#039;d think that after twenty years I&#039;d be over the shock...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love being a liberal in a conservative culture; it&#8217;s delightful.</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m ever the contrarian and I love a meaty discussion on progressive views.   </p>
<p>I do get right angry when it&#8217;s even suggested that I&#8217;m not a faithful member because of my beliefs.   Look, if you&#8217;re going to call me to repentance, like some nut case did on my brief political statement after the &#8217;08 election, I&#8217;m going to challenge you right back.   I don&#8217;t mind people who come by their political beliefs with honest thought; it&#8217;s the mindless line repeating and the absolutely horrific tendency to nearly deify saturnine demagogues that riles me.</p>
<p>I see nothing incongruous with my progressive tendencies and my faith.  In fact, I&#8217;m more than a little shocked that there aren&#8217;t more of my brothers and sisters who feel the same way that I do. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that after twenty years I&#8217;d be over the shock&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am absolutely certain that Dottie is a liberal troll who has posted here in order to embarrass conservatives and make them look as profoundly thoughtless and stupid as possible.  Take your anti-conservative antics elsewhere!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am absolutely certain that Dottie is a liberal troll who has posted here in order to embarrass conservatives and make them look as profoundly thoughtless and stupid as possible.  Take your anti-conservative antics elsewhere!</p>
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		<title>By: W.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dottie.  That was the funniest post yet.  The &quot;illigegal&quot; thing was hysterical.  You&#039;re a genius.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dottie.  That was the funniest post yet.  The &#8220;illigegal&#8221; thing was hysterical.  You&#8217;re a genius.</p>
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		<title>By: rbc</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rbc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE #68
Why in the world would anyone turn to a book written by ETB for political guidance?  Didn&#039;t he toy with the idea of running with George Wallace?  That alone disqualifies him from any serious discussion about politics.  If your politics are informed by that crazy strain of political thought you are in for a very, very difficult four, and possibly, eight years of BHO.  I hope your commune is sufficiently stocked.

With respect to God and politics, I think God looks down on our forays and attempt(s) at self governance the way I watch my kids play house.  To him, I think it all seems like child&#039;s play.  Lord knows, judging by the very recent performance of our government, the children are clearly in charge.  But, their actions have zero impact on my ability to repent and worship God.  They just bring out the cranks like Dottie.   

It is absurd to claim to find the hand of God in any political party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE #68<br />
Why in the world would anyone turn to a book written by ETB for political guidance?  Didn&#8217;t he toy with the idea of running with George Wallace?  That alone disqualifies him from any serious discussion about politics.  If your politics are informed by that crazy strain of political thought you are in for a very, very difficult four, and possibly, eight years of BHO.  I hope your commune is sufficiently stocked.</p>
<p>With respect to God and politics, I think God looks down on our forays and attempt(s) at self governance the way I watch my kids play house.  To him, I think it all seems like child&#8217;s play.  Lord knows, judging by the very recent performance of our government, the children are clearly in charge.  But, their actions have zero impact on my ability to repent and worship God.  They just bring out the cranks like Dottie.   </p>
<p>It is absurd to claim to find the hand of God in any political party.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you are back on the strait and narrow, Christopher.

One of the most appealing things about conservatives is how they seem to instinctively understand that there is more to life than politics.  And one of the least appealing things about conservatives is how often they forget that, and make &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; a matter of politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you are back on the strait and narrow, Christopher.</p>
<p>One of the most appealing things about conservatives is how they seem to instinctively understand that there is more to life than politics.  And one of the least appealing things about conservatives is how often they forget that, and make <i>everything</i> a matter of politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/21/on-being-liberal-in-a-conservative-church/#comment-126114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark (#69), speak for yourself. Dottie&#039;s well-reasoned and thoughtful, yet stern voice of warning has persuaded me to switch my party affiliation back to the Republican party. As she points out so eloquently, Democrats hate freedom, love killing babies, and love lying. 

My weak testimony that came as a result of my withdrawing my membership in the Republican party four years ago is quickly improving, and I can once again declare with every fiber of my being that the GOP is true, and Rush Limbaugh is a prophet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark (#69), speak for yourself. Dottie&#8217;s well-reasoned and thoughtful, yet stern voice of warning has persuaded me to switch my party affiliation back to the Republican party. As she points out so eloquently, Democrats hate freedom, love killing babies, and love lying. </p>
<p>My weak testimony that came as a result of my withdrawing my membership in the Republican party four years ago is quickly improving, and I can once again declare with every fiber of my being that the GOP is true, and Rush Limbaugh is a prophet.</p>
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