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	<title>Comments on: General Authority Humor Scandal–This Is No Joke</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/25/general-authority-humor-scandal-this-is-no-joke/#comment-128543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruce, we&#039;ve sufficiently debunked chris&#039;s stupid screed, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, we&#8217;ve sufficiently debunked chris&#8217;s stupid screed, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Rogers</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/25/general-authority-humor-scandal-this-is-no-joke/#comment-128538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: Post 87 above:   When i signed up for this list, the instructions said, as I best recall, that there was to be no anti-mormon or bashing of GAs.  I suggest that the owner of this site examine that post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Post 87 above:   When i signed up for this list, the instructions said, as I best recall, that there was to be no anti-mormon or bashing of GAs.  I suggest that the owner of this site examine that post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Taggart</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/25/general-authority-humor-scandal-this-is-no-joke/#comment-128531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Taggart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris wrote:&quot;And to the rest of you - unless you’re related or have a very close relationship with GAs, you don’t have any idea who they are based on the 6-10 minutes you see them at Conference. For example, from my time in Europe, both Hans Ringger and Spencer Condie of the 70 were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference (Yes, Elder Ringger was released some time ago). I know other now-GAs from having lived in Utah. Only one I can think of was a nice guy, and honest through and through. The others were shady in their dealings and also jerks to others in real life. Yes, acting like a pompous prat who is better than those around you qualifies as being a jerk. President Monson was very nice on the occasions I have met him, but there’s no trace of that so-called teddy-bearishness.&quot;

Geezy Peezy. I&#039;m from Wyoming, and I think you&#039;re projecting. In any event, that&#039;s one hell of a broad brush you paint, er, scribble with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris wrote:&#8221;And to the rest of you &#8211; unless you’re related or have a very close relationship with GAs, you don’t have any idea who they are based on the 6-10 minutes you see them at Conference. For example, from my time in Europe, both Hans Ringger and Spencer Condie of the 70 were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference (Yes, Elder Ringger was released some time ago). I know other now-GAs from having lived in Utah. Only one I can think of was a nice guy, and honest through and through. The others were shady in their dealings and also jerks to others in real life. Yes, acting like a pompous prat who is better than those around you qualifies as being a jerk. President Monson was very nice on the occasions I have met him, but there’s no trace of that so-called teddy-bearishness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Geezy Peezy. I&#8217;m from Wyoming, and I think you&#8217;re projecting. In any event, that&#8217;s one hell of a broad brush you paint, er, scribble with.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/25/general-authority-humor-scandal-this-is-no-joke/#comment-127661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex Valencic (85.), via (83.) &amp; (84.)

&quot;Relatives and close friends of Alex Valencic tell me that he is not greedy or corrupt, but is, indeed, a nice guy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Valencic (85.), via (83.) &amp; (84.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Relatives and close friends of Alex Valencic tell me that he is not greedy or corrupt, but is, indeed, a nice guy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Valencic</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/03/25/general-authority-humor-scandal-this-is-no-joke/#comment-127605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Valencic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#77 There is a huge difference between saying I am lucky to have my wife as a spouse and saying my wife is lucky to have me as a spouse.

The first is the epitome of humility. The second is the epitome of pompous arrogance. Which is, I believe, the oh-so-subtle message of this folk tale.

Incidentally, I&#039;d like to second the notion that not all CEOs are greedy, corrupt men who cause financial markets to collapse. I am going to be the president/CEO of a small business in a few months, and I don&#039;t think that I&#039;ll have any meaningful impact on the financial markets. Nor am I greedy and corrupt. At least not too much... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77 There is a huge difference between saying I am lucky to have my wife as a spouse and saying my wife is lucky to have me as a spouse.</p>
<p>The first is the epitome of humility. The second is the epitome of pompous arrogance. Which is, I believe, the oh-so-subtle message of this folk tale.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;d like to second the notion that not all CEOs are greedy, corrupt men who cause financial markets to collapse. I am going to be the president/CEO of a small business in a few months, and I don&#8217;t think that I&#8217;ll have any meaningful impact on the financial markets. Nor am I greedy and corrupt. At least not too much&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, Justin, such was been my experience as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Justin, such was been my experience as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;[F]rom my time in Europe, both Hans Ringger and Spencer Condie of the 70 were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference.&lt;/i&gt;

Relatives and close friends of Elders Ringger and Condie tell me that they are, indeed, nice guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[F]rom my time in Europe, both Hans Ringger and Spencer Condie of the 70 were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference.</i></p>
<p>Relatives and close friends of Elders Ringger and Condie tell me that they are, indeed, nice guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who has served in church leadership at any level knows that &quot;a close personal friend&quot; could be ANY NUMBER of people in ward/stake/area leadership that you rubbed shoulders with.  It&#039;s every easy for me to imagine that both these great men know the same person, a CEO, who would ask his wife that question.  This isn&#039;t a stretch for the imagination at all, and I&#039;d hardly call it a &quot;scandal&quot;! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has served in church leadership at any level knows that &#8220;a close personal friend&#8221; could be ANY NUMBER of people in ward/stake/area leadership that you rubbed shoulders with.  It&#8217;s every easy for me to imagine that both these great men know the same person, a CEO, who would ask his wife that question.  This isn&#8217;t a stretch for the imagination at all, and I&#8217;d hardly call it a &#8220;scandal&#8221;! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Peter LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter LLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[62:&lt;i&gt;from my time in Europe, [GAs] were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference&lt;/i&gt;

I hear you there. I had the misfortune of being present at a zone conference when a member of the AA came visiting. I can live with condescending or iron-hand-in-an-iron-glove leaders, but gratuitously obnoxious like this guy was? No thanks. 

A couple of years later the same person spoke at a BYU stake conference. I was expecting more of the same, but nope, he was all sweetness and light, praising our righteousness for attending our meetings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62:<i>from my time in Europe, [GAs] were both huge jerks, but always tried to come across as nice guys in Conference</i></p>
<p>I hear you there. I had the misfortune of being present at a zone conference when a member of the AA came visiting. I can live with condescending or iron-hand-in-an-iron-glove leaders, but gratuitously obnoxious like this guy was? No thanks. </p>
<p>A couple of years later the same person spoke at a BYU stake conference. I was expecting more of the same, but nope, he was all sweetness and light, praising our righteousness for attending our meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCQ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wow, I feel so sure that he was supposed to be female. My world is crumbling! Could they have changed that point in later editions of the book that were printed after the 70s?&quot;

No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow, I feel so sure that he was supposed to be female. My world is crumbling! Could they have changed that point in later editions of the book that were printed after the 70s?&#8221;</p>
<p>No.</p>
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