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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tracy is right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may find the following instructive:

In past Conference editions of the Ensign, the table of contents lists all General Authorities by Elder/President. It lists all others by name only--no title at all--not even &quot;Brother&quot; or &quot;Sister.&quot; The same form is used for each individual talk throughout the reports. 

Thus, if the Ensign&#039;s editorial decisions are taken to be a reflection of proper form (which I do not assert myself), then the use of &quot;President&quot; is not a male/female thing, but Priesthood only.  The Sunday School General President gets the same treatment as the General Relief Society President.

Make of that what you will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may find the following instructive:</p>
<p>In past Conference editions of the Ensign, the table of contents lists all General Authorities by Elder/President. It lists all others by name only&#8211;no title at all&#8211;not even &#8220;Brother&#8221; or &#8220;Sister.&#8221; The same form is used for each individual talk throughout the reports. </p>
<p>Thus, if the Ensign&#8217;s editorial decisions are taken to be a reflection of proper form (which I do not assert myself), then the use of &#8220;President&#8221; is not a male/female thing, but Priesthood only.  The Sunday School General President gets the same treatment as the General Relief Society President.</p>
<p>Make of that what you will.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidH</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always call auxiliary presidents &quot;President&quot;, except for the young women president in our ward who told me she prefers &quot;Empress&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always call auxiliary presidents &#8220;President&#8221;, except for the young women president in our ward who told me she prefers &#8220;Empress&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy M</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got it on good authority for RS that it&#039;s PRESIDENT _____.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got it on good authority for RS that it&#8217;s PRESIDENT _____.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got back from the Priesthood session, and when I read the last few comments, it struck me that my own experience has been forged by a father and mother who used the titles when speaking of women in our wards growing up.  A RS Pres. is &quot;President _________&quot; to me because that&#039;s what I grew up hearing.  I&#039;ll have to step back and think about if I&#039;ve heard it from others, but that&#039;s what I say and think, so I&#039;m probably not as aware of others not saying it.  

I had never stopped and thought about that.  Thanks for making me do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from the Priesthood session, and when I read the last few comments, it struck me that my own experience has been forged by a father and mother who used the titles when speaking of women in our wards growing up.  A RS Pres. is &#8220;President _________&#8221; to me because that&#8217;s what I grew up hearing.  I&#8217;ll have to step back and think about if I&#8217;ve heard it from others, but that&#8217;s what I say and think, so I&#8217;m probably not as aware of others not saying it.  </p>
<p>I had never stopped and thought about that.  Thanks for making me do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ray, I&#039;ve never heard a Relief Society President called by her title in regular usage (i.e. any time one isn&#039;t being formally introduced from a pulpit setting).

It&#039;s always been &quot;Sister Jones.&quot; Not &quot;President Jones.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, I&#8217;ve never heard a Relief Society President called by her title in regular usage (i.e. any time one isn&#8217;t being formally introduced from a pulpit setting).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always been &#8220;Sister Jones.&#8221; Not &#8220;President Jones.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Moore Smith</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129738</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Moore Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I just posted on Mormon Momma:

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I once heard it in a ward and once in a general meeting. That&#039;s all I can recall. If you google &quot;President Packer&quot; on lds.org, you get over 500 hits, over 160 for &quot;President Uchtdorf.&quot; None of &quot;President Dalton&quot; or &quot;President Lant.&quot; You get three for &quot;President Beck,&quot; but only two are about her and none actually contain her name with the title.

On the flip side, there are 91 of &quot;Sister Dalton,&quot; 48 of &quot;Sister Lant,&quot; and 167 of &quot;Sister Beck.&quot;

I think it&#039;s safe to say that using &quot;president&quot; isn&#039;t the norm for females--even for the general presidents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I just posted on Mormon Momma:</p>
<p>**********</p>
<p>I once heard it in a ward and once in a general meeting. That&#8217;s all I can recall. If you google &#8220;President Packer&#8221; on lds.org, you get over 500 hits, over 160 for &#8220;President Uchtdorf.&#8221; None of &#8220;President Dalton&#8221; or &#8220;President Lant.&#8221; You get three for &#8220;President Beck,&#8221; but only two are about her and none actually contain her name with the title.</p>
<p>On the flip side, there are 91 of &#8220;Sister Dalton,&#8221; 48 of &#8220;Sister Lant,&#8221; and 167 of &#8220;Sister Beck.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s safe to say that using &#8220;president&#8221; isn&#8217;t the norm for females&#8211;even for the general presidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#279 - I&#039;ve heard female leaders referred to by their titles all my life.  I think it&#039;s important, even as I use first names almost all the time in private communcations with people - like e-mail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#279 &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard female leaders referred to by their titles all my life.  I think it&#8217;s important, even as I use first names almost all the time in private communcations with people &#8211; like e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: bookwisewin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bookwisewin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sister Lifferth said, &quot;calling priesthood leaders by their titles&quot; was important. 

I know you&#039;re all so over this thread, but can someone tell me why don&#039;t we call female leaders by their titles? I have, I think, heard a female leader called by her title two times in my life. If they are meaningful, let&#039;s use them consistently. If not, why make an issue of it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Lifferth said, &#8220;calling priesthood leaders by their titles&#8221; was important. </p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re all so over this thread, but can someone tell me why don&#8217;t we call female leaders by their titles? I have, I think, heard a female leader called by her title two times in my life. If they are meaningful, let&#8217;s use them consistently. If not, why make an issue of it?</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/04/saturday-morning-general-conference/#comment-129621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[queuno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;In the Press Conference…Elder Andersen directly said he would and will sustain those who are not from the US when the time comes.&lt;/i&gt;

Then he certainly did that when we sustained the First Presidency and general leadership of the Church.

Let&#039;s stop focusing on who didn&#039;t get called, and celebrate the ministry and leadership and experience of who DID get called...

Personally, I would have preferred that Kevin Barney be called to be an apostle, but my hopes were dashed, yet again.

(Seriously - wouldn&#039;t you love one of his talks in GC?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In the Press Conference…Elder Andersen directly said he would and will sustain those who are not from the US when the time comes.</i></p>
<p>Then he certainly did that when we sustained the First Presidency and general leadership of the Church.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stop focusing on who didn&#8217;t get called, and celebrate the ministry and leadership and experience of who DID get called&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally, I would have preferred that Kevin Barney be called to be an apostle, but my hopes were dashed, yet again.</p>
<p>(Seriously &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t you love one of his talks in GC?)</p>
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