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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-134178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vince Cable is brilliant, that&#039;s for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince Cable is brilliant, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: gomez</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-134176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gomez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starkey&#039;s opening rant was fantastic as was his point about rewards and penalties. I actually think a hung parliament with Vince Cable as chancellor may have merit. Thinking about it, its Osborne I have serious reservations about. If DC ditched Osborne and moved Ken Clarke to shadow chancellor I&#039;d be a lot more inclined to vote Tory. But I doubt Dave has the bottle to make such a move. Either way, Brown&#039;s time is definately far spent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starkey&#8217;s opening rant was fantastic as was his point about rewards and penalties. I actually think a hung parliament with Vince Cable as chancellor may have merit. Thinking about it, its Osborne I have serious reservations about. If DC ditched Osborne and moved Ken Clarke to shadow chancellor I&#8217;d be a lot more inclined to vote Tory. But I doubt Dave has the bottle to make such a move. Either way, Brown&#8217;s time is definately far spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-134172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gomez,
Did you see Starkey on Question Time last night? Well worth a watch.
Labour is finished. Give DC a turn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gomez,<br />
Did you see Starkey on Question Time last night? Well worth a watch.<br />
Labour is finished. Give DC a turn.</p>
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		<title>By: gomez</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-134171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gomez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronan, just in case you come back to this, I take it all back. I may still have serious reservations about DC, but after this budget of lies, deception and diversionary tactics, I&#039;d vote for traffic cone before I&#039;d vote for Brown and Darling. I&#039;m with Dave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronan, just in case you come back to this, I take it all back. I may still have serious reservations about DC, but after this budget of lies, deception and diversionary tactics, I&#8217;d vote for traffic cone before I&#8217;d vote for Brown and Darling. I&#8217;m with Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brown</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the part where they destroy the symbol of the cross and replace it with a dollar sign is pretty hard to miss.  It is also a good example of her heavy-handed earnestness.

As Bart would say, this book both sucks and blows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the part where they destroy the symbol of the cross and replace it with a dollar sign is pretty hard to miss.  It is also a good example of her heavy-handed earnestness.</p>
<p>As Bart would say, this book both sucks and blows.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132150</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently watched &lt;a href=&quot;http://digg.com/d1jlnG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ayn Rand&#039;s 1959 interview with Mike Wallace.&lt;/a&gt;  If you take her at her word, it is much more difficult to reconcile Christ-like charity with her ideas than some on this thread have suggested.

As she makes clear in her interview, self-interest (or selfishness) is not a feature of her system, it is the single guiding value of her system.  Self-interest for the sake of everybody getting only and precisely what they supposedly deserve. It is beyond me how one can square that with a system based almost completely on an infinitely selfless sacrifice on behalf of those who didn&#039;t deserve it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently watched <a href="http://digg.com/d1jlnG" rel="nofollow">Ayn Rand&#8217;s 1959 interview with Mike Wallace.</a>  If you take her at her word, it is much more difficult to reconcile Christ-like charity with her ideas than some on this thread have suggested.</p>
<p>As she makes clear in her interview, self-interest (or selfishness) is not a feature of her system, it is the single guiding value of her system.  Self-interest for the sake of everybody getting only and precisely what they supposedly deserve. It is beyond me how one can square that with a system based almost completely on an infinitely selfless sacrifice on behalf of those who didn&#8217;t deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca J</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cynthia, that AS condensed version was awesome.

&lt;i&gt;I don’t think Rand would have any problem with Jesus, as long as the charity was done by choice, not force (or the implied force of taxation/regulation).&lt;/i&gt;

Rand had a big problem with Jesus (or at least Christianity) and also with charity.  Her philosophy is fundamentally incompatible with the gospel because its ethical standard is egoism.  That&#039;s the opposite of Christianity and pretty much every religion out there.  Rand, of course, was vehemently anti-religion.

That said, I enjoy Rand&#039;s novels very much.  She spins a good yarn.  I also appreciate her ideas, even though I disagree with many of them.  She makes an elegant defense of capitalism.  I like her work because it&#039;s provocative.  I think it&#039;s brilliant and fatally flawed.  

Anyone who wants to take Objectivism seriously should read more about Rand&#039;s own life.  It really puts her philosophy into perspective.  She practiced what she preached, but she was truly a destructive person.  A psychopath who spun a good yarn*.  

* With the exception of the last bit of Atlas Shrugged, which was, as Scott B. put it, a big thud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia, that AS condensed version was awesome.</p>
<p><i>I don’t think Rand would have any problem with Jesus, as long as the charity was done by choice, not force (or the implied force of taxation/regulation).</i></p>
<p>Rand had a big problem with Jesus (or at least Christianity) and also with charity.  Her philosophy is fundamentally incompatible with the gospel because its ethical standard is egoism.  That&#8217;s the opposite of Christianity and pretty much every religion out there.  Rand, of course, was vehemently anti-religion.</p>
<p>That said, I enjoy Rand&#8217;s novels very much.  She spins a good yarn.  I also appreciate her ideas, even though I disagree with many of them.  She makes an elegant defense of capitalism.  I like her work because it&#8217;s provocative.  I think it&#8217;s brilliant and fatally flawed.  </p>
<p>Anyone who wants to take Objectivism seriously should read more about Rand&#8217;s own life.  It really puts her philosophy into perspective.  She practiced what she preached, but she was truly a destructive person.  A psychopath who spun a good yarn*.  </p>
<p>* With the exception of the last bit of Atlas Shrugged, which was, as Scott B. put it, a big thud.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Pete, there are, in fact, bow hunting, or more generally speaking, archaic hunting and survival, skillz, to go along with, or complement, if you will, my set of pompous grammar, or, to be more specific, pompous comma, skillz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Pete, there are, in fact, bow hunting, or more generally speaking, archaic hunting and survival, skillz, to go along with, or complement, if you will, my set of pompous grammar, or, to be more specific, pompous comma, skillz.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atlas Shrugged is not a conservative novel and Rand&#039;s message wasn&#039;t conservative. The &quot;moral of the story&quot; is the virtue of individualism versus collectivism, nothing more. I don&#039;t think Rand would have any problem with Jesus, as long as the charity was done by choice, not force (or the implied force of taxation/regulation). Sounds good to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlas Shrugged is not a conservative novel and Rand&#8217;s message wasn&#8217;t conservative. The &#8220;moral of the story&#8221; is the virtue of individualism versus collectivism, nothing more. I don&#8217;t think Rand would have any problem with Jesus, as long as the charity was done by choice, not force (or the implied force of taxation/regulation). Sounds good to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter LLC</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/04/18/reading-atlas-shrugged/#comment-132105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter LLC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott, as long as they are accompanied by a modicum of bow hunting and computer hacking skills, I&#039;m cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, as long as they are accompanied by a modicum of bow hunting and computer hacking skills, I&#8217;m cool.</p>
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