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		<title>By: Rick in Nashville</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138771</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tracy, you learned and have demonstrated to many others by your story here, one of the great spiritual lessons to be learned while we are in this world. That insight is, there are fewer coincidences in life than we might suppose.

As others have said elsewhere, life is like a tapestry in which we see only the back side. When we leave this world for the next, we are then allowed to see the front side that shows how all the threads that looked to have little rhyme or reason on the back, came together to create a beautiful work. Just as your experience recounts, from time to time, we are allowed to see glimpses of the finished side of this tapestry, while still in this world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy, you learned and have demonstrated to many others by your story here, one of the great spiritual lessons to be learned while we are in this world. That insight is, there are fewer coincidences in life than we might suppose.</p>
<p>As others have said elsewhere, life is like a tapestry in which we see only the back side. When we leave this world for the next, we are then allowed to see the front side that shows how all the threads that looked to have little rhyme or reason on the back, came together to create a beautiful work. Just as your experience recounts, from time to time, we are allowed to see glimpses of the finished side of this tapestry, while still in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: manaen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138247</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tracy,
Thank you for this -- I&#039;m eager to share this with my now-wife who was baptized two years ago next month.  We look forward to our times in the temple.
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She and you exemplify Elder Oaks&#039; observation that &lt;i&gt;Many who come in the eleventh hour have been refined and prepared by the Lord in ways other than formal employment in the vineyard. These workers are like the prepared dry mix to which it is only necessary to &quot;add water&quot;--the perfecting ordinance of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. With that addition--even in the eleventh hour--these workers are in the same state of development and qualified to receive the same reward as those who have labored long in the vineyard. &lt;/i&gt;  -- GenCon 10/200.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy,<br />
Thank you for this &#8212; I&#8217;m eager to share this with my now-wife who was baptized two years ago next month.  We look forward to our times in the temple.<br />
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She and you exemplify Elder Oaks&#8217; observation that <i>Many who come in the eleventh hour have been refined and prepared by the Lord in ways other than formal employment in the vineyard. These workers are like the prepared dry mix to which it is only necessary to &#8220;add water&#8221;&#8211;the perfecting ordinance of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. With that addition&#8211;even in the eleventh hour&#8211;these workers are in the same state of development and qualified to receive the same reward as those who have labored long in the vineyard. </i>  &#8212; GenCon 10/200.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not understand why Nauvoo has such a tremendous spirit about it, but it does, and it&#039;s even greater in the temple.  

As I sat in the baptistry with my wife and daughters bathing in the glow of the moment, I was trying to understand why I should feel so much more strongly there than in other temples, and I couldn&#039;t come to any conclusion.

Maybe there is something to sacred ground.  The sacrifices of the former inhabitants and the faith of their followers may have somehow sanctified that area.

The missionaries there struck me as top notch, especially in temple.  They were SO excited to have us there and wanted so much to show it off -- they kept asking permission of the temple presidency to take my underage daughters to just one more thing.  One of them appeared to have a bad leg, but he would carefully wipe the water from the wooden baptistry steps after each person with the same care one would use after washing a brand new car.  I was very touched by the temple president&#039;s comments prior to the ordinances, and seeing my expression, one of the workers made the off-hand comment that Pres. Petersen was one of the kindest men he&#039;d ever known.

My cynical side says maybe it&#039;s partly the expectation (dare I say superstition?) the tourists bring with them.  While Nauvoo felt glorious to me, Carthage jail did not.  I could not bring myself to sing &quot;I am a Child of God&quot; with the tour group, even at the guide&#039;s request.  The feeling of that song did not match the feeling of the place, and just hearing it made me feel ill.  I used my youngest child as an excuse to leave.  Was it just me, or does some shadow still linger there?

For whatever reason, visiting Nauvoo was a sacred experience to me as well.  Thank you for your post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why Nauvoo has such a tremendous spirit about it, but it does, and it&#8217;s even greater in the temple.  </p>
<p>As I sat in the baptistry with my wife and daughters bathing in the glow of the moment, I was trying to understand why I should feel so much more strongly there than in other temples, and I couldn&#8217;t come to any conclusion.</p>
<p>Maybe there is something to sacred ground.  The sacrifices of the former inhabitants and the faith of their followers may have somehow sanctified that area.</p>
<p>The missionaries there struck me as top notch, especially in temple.  They were SO excited to have us there and wanted so much to show it off &#8212; they kept asking permission of the temple presidency to take my underage daughters to just one more thing.  One of them appeared to have a bad leg, but he would carefully wipe the water from the wooden baptistry steps after each person with the same care one would use after washing a brand new car.  I was very touched by the temple president&#8217;s comments prior to the ordinances, and seeing my expression, one of the workers made the off-hand comment that Pres. Petersen was one of the kindest men he&#8217;d ever known.</p>
<p>My cynical side says maybe it&#8217;s partly the expectation (dare I say superstition?) the tourists bring with them.  While Nauvoo felt glorious to me, Carthage jail did not.  I could not bring myself to sing &#8220;I am a Child of God&#8221; with the tour group, even at the guide&#8217;s request.  The feeling of that song did not match the feeling of the place, and just hearing it made me feel ill.  I used my youngest child as an excuse to leave.  Was it just me, or does some shadow still linger there?</p>
<p>For whatever reason, visiting Nauvoo was a sacred experience to me as well.  Thank you for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: rameumptom</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138091</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Living only 5 hours away from Nauvoo in Indianapolis has been a treat for me.  I&#039;ve always had super wonderful experiences when I&#039;ve attended that temple. It really is my favorite, far and above the SLC and other temples.

The carpets are actually woven in the same England tapestry companies as the originals, with the same width and patterns used back then.  You note the seams in the carpets.

The murals are awesome in the various rooms. Pres Hinckley actually painted a small portion of one of the murals, IIRC.

I dunno, but while I get a wonderful feeling in all the temples, Nauvoo&#039;s spirit is just head and shoulders above the rest for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living only 5 hours away from Nauvoo in Indianapolis has been a treat for me.  I&#8217;ve always had super wonderful experiences when I&#8217;ve attended that temple. It really is my favorite, far and above the SLC and other temples.</p>
<p>The carpets are actually woven in the same England tapestry companies as the originals, with the same width and patterns used back then.  You note the seams in the carpets.</p>
<p>The murals are awesome in the various rooms. Pres Hinckley actually painted a small portion of one of the murals, IIRC.</p>
<p>I dunno, but while I get a wonderful feeling in all the temples, Nauvoo&#8217;s spirit is just head and shoulders above the rest for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy M</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aileen, I&#039;ve emailed you...

Everyone, thanks. Describing shining moments such as this always leaves me feeling ham-fisted. It&#039;s like trying to paint the delicate veins of a sunlit leaf with a power roller. Thank you for seeing beyond my writing limitations and recognizing what I was trying to convey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aileen, I&#8217;ve emailed you&#8230;</p>
<p>Everyone, thanks. Describing shining moments such as this always leaves me feeling ham-fisted. It&#8217;s like trying to paint the delicate veins of a sunlit leaf with a power roller. Thank you for seeing beyond my writing limitations and recognizing what I was trying to convey.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveP</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tracy, this was wonderful. You captured something profound and meaningful in your description. There are deep things that happen in this world with roots in the eternities. Thanks for sharing one so beautifully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy, this was wonderful. You captured something profound and meaningful in your description. There are deep things that happen in this world with roots in the eternities. Thanks for sharing one so beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Pratt</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Pratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gave me shivers.  Thank you, Tracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gave me shivers.  Thank you, Tracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful post, thanks.  

I was intrigued by your comment that the Nauvoo Temple&#039;s beauty from the outside is splendid.  But, &quot;[f]rom the inside, it defies description.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post, thanks.  </p>
<p>I was intrigued by your comment that the Nauvoo Temple&#8217;s beauty from the outside is splendid.  But, &#8220;[f]rom the inside, it defies description.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John C.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful, Tracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, Tracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia L.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/05/27/more-mormon/#comment-138041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynthia L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love you Tracy. I&#039;m so glad you wrote this up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love you Tracy. I&#8217;m so glad you wrote this up.</p>
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