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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 05:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love/d camp.
 SO MANY STORIES....

- My second year, (also the year I peed my pants in front of everybody) we were all playing cards in an empty cabin on the last night when this violent thunderstorm rolled in. Unlucky for us, we had open air cabins, so even though we were technically &quot;inside,&quot; we all got soaked. So we all just huddled together and waited for it to blow over. We woke up the next morning in a giant bundle of campers. I think I was using my friend Caroline&#039;s butt as a pillow.

- Two words: MOTHER MOO.

- It seems as though every girl has their period at camp. I guess its true that &quot;the cycles sync up&quot; with the people you spend a lot of time around. Slightly awkward for the stake prez or any male within earshot of some personal conversations...

- My fourth year we TPed the camp director, and we were all nervous because we had never TPed at this level before. So we were all on edge, and then I happen to look up at the door and I see the camp director staring back at me. I screamed and so everyone else looked and saw her, screamed, ran, etc. But she started laughing and hugged us and told us it was so cool that we would even think to prank her. Favorite director EVER. 

- My fifth year, when I was a JC, one of my friends heard that the first years were planning to TP us after dinner. So all the JCs finished dinner early and went to hide out in our cabin, lights out and totally silent. We were only there for a few minutes when we heard a bunch of 12 year old feet stomping up the hill. While they were TPing us we heard snippets of their gleeful conversation such as &quot;Guys, we are SO bad!!!&quot; and &quot;Wait, why are we doing this again?&quot; Once we felt we had given them enough time to adequately TP, we jump out of our cabin, thus scaring the living crap out of them, and chase them down. We caught them and escorted them back to our cabin to clean up what they had done. We get back only to discover that they had done the worst job ever and only two or three pieces of TP were lying on the ground. We still made them pick it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love/d camp.<br />
 SO MANY STORIES&#8230;.</p>
<p>- My second year, (also the year I peed my pants in front of everybody) we were all playing cards in an empty cabin on the last night when this violent thunderstorm rolled in. Unlucky for us, we had open air cabins, so even though we were technically &#8220;inside,&#8221; we all got soaked. So we all just huddled together and waited for it to blow over. We woke up the next morning in a giant bundle of campers. I think I was using my friend Caroline&#8217;s butt as a pillow.</p>
<p>- Two words: MOTHER MOO.</p>
<p>- It seems as though every girl has their period at camp. I guess its true that &#8220;the cycles sync up&#8221; with the people you spend a lot of time around. Slightly awkward for the stake prez or any male within earshot of some personal conversations&#8230;</p>
<p>- My fourth year we TPed the camp director, and we were all nervous because we had never TPed at this level before. So we were all on edge, and then I happen to look up at the door and I see the camp director staring back at me. I screamed and so everyone else looked and saw her, screamed, ran, etc. But she started laughing and hugged us and told us it was so cool that we would even think to prank her. Favorite director EVER. </p>
<p>- My fifth year, when I was a JC, one of my friends heard that the first years were planning to TP us after dinner. So all the JCs finished dinner early and went to hide out in our cabin, lights out and totally silent. We were only there for a few minutes when we heard a bunch of 12 year old feet stomping up the hill. While they were TPing us we heard snippets of their gleeful conversation such as &#8220;Guys, we are SO bad!!!&#8221; and &#8220;Wait, why are we doing this again?&#8221; Once we felt we had given them enough time to adequately TP, we jump out of our cabin, thus scaring the living crap out of them, and chase them down. We caught them and escorted them back to our cabin to clean up what they had done. We get back only to discover that they had done the worst job ever and only two or three pieces of TP were lying on the ground. We still made them pick it up.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATED CAMP.  so much.  YW are only more cruel in group situations.

Best story of young womens&#039; camp:  Young women in my ward spent the week throwing tampons at other campers, or hiding them in other camper&#039;s tents.

EFY was a thousand times better-more organized and did a better job of planning good, clean fun for the youth without resorting to immature pranks.  

Wow.  I sound bitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATED CAMP.  so much.  YW are only more cruel in group situations.</p>
<p>Best story of young womens&#8217; camp:  Young women in my ward spent the week throwing tampons at other campers, or hiding them in other camper&#8217;s tents.</p>
<p>EFY was a thousand times better-more organized and did a better job of planning good, clean fun for the youth without resorting to immature pranks.  </p>
<p>Wow.  I sound bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: going soon</title>
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		<dc:creator>going soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only been to one year as a camper, my 2nd year is coming up, but the best story is probably when our leader swallow a fly. during flag ceremony. All seven of us girls and the one other leader were trying to conceal our laughter at her trying to choke the bug back up while the other six wards stared at us strangely. 
Fun times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only been to one year as a camper, my 2nd year is coming up, but the best story is probably when our leader swallow a fly. during flag ceremony. All seven of us girls and the one other leader were trying to conceal our laughter at her trying to choke the bug back up while the other six wards stared at us strangely.<br />
Fun times.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous for this one</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous for this one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YIKES! 
we had NO general sickness. no sickness, no food poisoning.
Ardis, put NO in italics for me will you please? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YIKES!<br />
we had NO general sickness. no sickness, no food poisoning.<br />
Ardis, put NO in italics for me will you please? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous for this one</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous for this one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a Beehive one of our leaders had a baby at our camp in the high Sierras.  She had her dates wrong.  It was exceedingly cool.  

Years later, after a large scale  food poisoning mess one year we (the Stake YW Presidency) found a camp with real bathrooms and a great modern air conditioned kitchen and dining room.  The girls still had tent sites.  Since I had planned meals for years for a week long family reunion at Lake Powell I got put in charge of not making anyone sick with the food.   Each unit was assigned  to help and to clean up with 2 meals.  My real work was the planning and shopping. The girls did all the work.  It went well and I did it for 11 years. Twice I was pregnant, and one year I brought my nursing baby,  and then I moved away.  They offered me an assistant  the second year, but she was so much trouble I never took one after that.  The menus got better every year, both better food and less waste at both the midwestern camp and at Lake Powell.  I passed on my notes to my successor, but she had a better idea, and girls got sick again.  My greatest Girls&#039; Camp accomplishment was that in my 11 years, we had general sickness. I got the keys to the only air conditioned room, which after hours was occupied by only me and the Stake YW Presidency (where I only served that first year).  Much as I enjoyed it, this is a light I keep firmly under a bushel in my new ward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a Beehive one of our leaders had a baby at our camp in the high Sierras.  She had her dates wrong.  It was exceedingly cool.  </p>
<p>Years later, after a large scale  food poisoning mess one year we (the Stake YW Presidency) found a camp with real bathrooms and a great modern air conditioned kitchen and dining room.  The girls still had tent sites.  Since I had planned meals for years for a week long family reunion at Lake Powell I got put in charge of not making anyone sick with the food.   Each unit was assigned  to help and to clean up with 2 meals.  My real work was the planning and shopping. The girls did all the work.  It went well and I did it for 11 years. Twice I was pregnant, and one year I brought my nursing baby,  and then I moved away.  They offered me an assistant  the second year, but she was so much trouble I never took one after that.  The menus got better every year, both better food and less waste at both the midwestern camp and at Lake Powell.  I passed on my notes to my successor, but she had a better idea, and girls got sick again.  My greatest Girls&#8217; Camp accomplishment was that in my 11 years, we had general sickness. I got the keys to the only air conditioned room, which after hours was occupied by only me and the Stake YW Presidency (where I only served that first year).  Much as I enjoyed it, this is a light I keep firmly under a bushel in my new ward.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessyca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessyca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t true, so they lied to the girls. Lying to build trust? Lying like Jesus lied? 

Lying is wrong, period. These &quot;leaders&quot; set a horrible example, unless God changed his mind and no longer hates liars or lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t true, so they lied to the girls. Lying to build trust? Lying like Jesus lied? </p>
<p>Lying is wrong, period. These &#8220;leaders&#8221; set a horrible example, unless God changed his mind and no longer hates liars or lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Beckthewreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beckthewreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My camp experience...
 We were on &quot;the night hike&quot;. 
 As the hike commenced, we went to various stations and listened to the YCL&#039;s (Youth Camp Leaders) sing songs about gospel related subjects.
 During the middle of the hike while at a station, the older girls were trying to sing/teach us their lesson, and a Priesthood holder came running into the wooded area we were standing in. 
 He came running, out of breath, gasping, exclaiming that the Second Coming had happened, and that Christ had returned to Jerusalem and our lives (as we knew them) were complete.
  We had been out in the middle of nowhere for 4 days already... no electricity or communication with the outside world, so it seemed plausible.
 Immediately the girls in my group started crying and all I could think about was all the bad things that I hadn&#039;t repented of and now would have no chance to - since Christ was here.
 One of the girls was so upset that she went home that night. 
 The leaders were trying to let us see how we needed to change our lives so that we would be ready when the second coming did happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My camp experience&#8230;<br />
 We were on &#8220;the night hike&#8221;.<br />
 As the hike commenced, we went to various stations and listened to the YCL&#8217;s (Youth Camp Leaders) sing songs about gospel related subjects.<br />
 During the middle of the hike while at a station, the older girls were trying to sing/teach us their lesson, and a Priesthood holder came running into the wooded area we were standing in.<br />
 He came running, out of breath, gasping, exclaiming that the Second Coming had happened, and that Christ had returned to Jerusalem and our lives (as we knew them) were complete.<br />
  We had been out in the middle of nowhere for 4 days already&#8230; no electricity or communication with the outside world, so it seemed plausible.<br />
 Immediately the girls in my group started crying and all I could think about was all the bad things that I hadn&#8217;t repented of and now would have no chance to &#8211; since Christ was here.<br />
 One of the girls was so upset that she went home that night.<br />
 The leaders were trying to let us see how we needed to change our lives so that we would be ready when the second coming did happen.</p>
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		<title>By: ldsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to a couple of girl&#039;s camps, and my husband has come as one of the priesthood to help out.  Last year, less than half of the priesthood who had signed up came, so the few who were left for the week were worked 24 hrs in the heat with very little sleep.  There are some stake leaders in charge whose names are still 4 letter words to those brethern.  Which may explain my husband&#039;s actions one night when he decided to prank my girls.  A thunderstorm was coming in, and he said that the OK state police had put out a warning that the state mental institution prison had an escape and they were looking for the guy right outside our camp.  We had a nonmember girl who had never been camping or had any contact with the Church before.  She burst into tears.  Unknown to us, she came from a family that really had a family member committed to such a place after attacking her family in the middle of the night a few years before.  NOT FUNNY.  Believe me, I had him apologize A LOT after that one, especially to the poor girl.  Thankfully she accepted his apology and seemed to have a good time for the rest of camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to a couple of girl&#8217;s camps, and my husband has come as one of the priesthood to help out.  Last year, less than half of the priesthood who had signed up came, so the few who were left for the week were worked 24 hrs in the heat with very little sleep.  There are some stake leaders in charge whose names are still 4 letter words to those brethern.  Which may explain my husband&#8217;s actions one night when he decided to prank my girls.  A thunderstorm was coming in, and he said that the OK state police had put out a warning that the state mental institution prison had an escape and they were looking for the guy right outside our camp.  We had a nonmember girl who had never been camping or had any contact with the Church before.  She burst into tears.  Unknown to us, she came from a family that really had a family member committed to such a place after attacking her family in the middle of the night a few years before.  NOT FUNNY.  Believe me, I had him apologize A LOT after that one, especially to the poor girl.  Thankfully she accepted his apology and seemed to have a good time for the rest of camp.</p>
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		<title>By: livin in zion</title>
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		<dc:creator>livin in zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MUST COMMENT!!!

As a YW in AZ. I went to Camp LoMia every year and loved it. 
The last year things went bad. My &quot;secret sister&quot; (everyone exchanged names) gave me a gift of candy every day of camp. On the 3rd night of camp, I woke in the middle of the night to find a creature with a rather long &quot;rat like&quot; tail sitting on my head, eating my candy. Oh, how I wished for a gift of stickers instead! It was completely gross. 

More seriously, some girls came up with  the prank of putting dye in the shower heads in the bathhouse. One of the leaders using the showers almost got face full of dye. It turned into a huge big deal.

 At first the leaders put  the girls with their wards and tried to get a confession. That didn&#039;t work, so then all of us girls (well over a 100) all filed into the lodge where we were told the prank and how dangerous it was, and all the awful things that could have happened. We were asked to stand up if we knew anything about the prank. No one moved. Then we were asked to close our eyes and bow our heads. The prankers were asked to identify themselves, in this &quot;private&quot; way. No one confessed. The Camp Director was so upset this happened on her watch, she quit after camp. She had been the leader for years. 

Lots of gossip and speculation about that unknown prankster. 

As an adult leader, I have seen the girls need for priesthood divine interventions. I have come to the conclusion it is the girls who don&#039;t have a good father figure at home who need constant male reasurrance. 
I did have one young girl who was openly flirting with the priesthood leader. The poor guy was clueless and didn&#039;t get it. I had to talk to him and explain what was happening. He was mortified and reported back after camp to the stake priesthood leaders the importance of making sure no male leader is left with a camper, etc. so no one&#039;s reputation is tainted. (The girl involved had made false allegations of sexual abuse in the past)

By day 3 of camp, everyone&#039;s emotions are running high, due to a lack of sleep, the heat, junk food and female hormones run amok (leaders and girls!)

Lastly, the BEST camp activity ever was a realistic first aid drill I set up, with the YCL girls as victims in staged accidents around camp.  It was great fun to create bloody, gory wounds and see how the girls would deal with it. Every year there was at least one 1st yr. who would think it was real and start freaking out. I like to think of it as &quot;Motherhood training 101&quot; . It toughens you up real quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUST COMMENT!!!</p>
<p>As a YW in AZ. I went to Camp LoMia every year and loved it.<br />
The last year things went bad. My &#8220;secret sister&#8221; (everyone exchanged names) gave me a gift of candy every day of camp. On the 3rd night of camp, I woke in the middle of the night to find a creature with a rather long &#8220;rat like&#8221; tail sitting on my head, eating my candy. Oh, how I wished for a gift of stickers instead! It was completely gross. </p>
<p>More seriously, some girls came up with  the prank of putting dye in the shower heads in the bathhouse. One of the leaders using the showers almost got face full of dye. It turned into a huge big deal.</p>
<p> At first the leaders put  the girls with their wards and tried to get a confession. That didn&#8217;t work, so then all of us girls (well over a 100) all filed into the lodge where we were told the prank and how dangerous it was, and all the awful things that could have happened. We were asked to stand up if we knew anything about the prank. No one moved. Then we were asked to close our eyes and bow our heads. The prankers were asked to identify themselves, in this &#8220;private&#8221; way. No one confessed. The Camp Director was so upset this happened on her watch, she quit after camp. She had been the leader for years. </p>
<p>Lots of gossip and speculation about that unknown prankster. </p>
<p>As an adult leader, I have seen the girls need for priesthood divine interventions. I have come to the conclusion it is the girls who don&#8217;t have a good father figure at home who need constant male reasurrance.<br />
I did have one young girl who was openly flirting with the priesthood leader. The poor guy was clueless and didn&#8217;t get it. I had to talk to him and explain what was happening. He was mortified and reported back after camp to the stake priesthood leaders the importance of making sure no male leader is left with a camper, etc. so no one&#8217;s reputation is tainted. (The girl involved had made false allegations of sexual abuse in the past)</p>
<p>By day 3 of camp, everyone&#8217;s emotions are running high, due to a lack of sleep, the heat, junk food and female hormones run amok (leaders and girls!)</p>
<p>Lastly, the BEST camp activity ever was a realistic first aid drill I set up, with the YCL girls as victims in staged accidents around camp.  It was great fun to create bloody, gory wounds and see how the girls would deal with it. Every year there was at least one 1st yr. who would think it was real and start freaking out. I like to think of it as &#8220;Motherhood training 101&#8243; . It toughens you up real quick.</p>
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		<title>By: meggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>meggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, ooh, this is my favorite- at our girl&#039;s camp, two piece bathing suits are not allowed.  Even the tankinis that actually meet in the middle.  I asked for the rationale behind this and was told &quot;the top might ride up and expose (gasp!) the girl&#039;s stomach.&quot;  That very year one of the daughters of a leader wore a one piece suit with no straps.  Apparently it is okay if a swimsuit slips and exposes one&#039;s chest, but not one&#039;s belly.  True logic at it&#039;s finest.  But really, snarkiness aside, one year when my older sister was at girl&#039;s camp in No. California, it rained so hard that there were mudslides, and the fourth year girls who were on an overnight hike had to abandon all their gear in the mountains and run for their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, ooh, this is my favorite- at our girl&#8217;s camp, two piece bathing suits are not allowed.  Even the tankinis that actually meet in the middle.  I asked for the rationale behind this and was told &#8220;the top might ride up and expose (gasp!) the girl&#8217;s stomach.&#8221;  That very year one of the daughters of a leader wore a one piece suit with no straps.  Apparently it is okay if a swimsuit slips and exposes one&#8217;s chest, but not one&#8217;s belly.  True logic at it&#8217;s finest.  But really, snarkiness aside, one year when my older sister was at girl&#8217;s camp in No. California, it rained so hard that there were mudslides, and the fourth year girls who were on an overnight hike had to abandon all their gear in the mountains and run for their lives.</p>
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