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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-145882</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful satire that points up numerous points of inconsistency in the &quot;Spalding-Rigdon&quot; hypothesis for Book of Mormon authorship. At the same time, I am not so confident as many of my fellow hearty laughers that the matter is entirely settled in favor of their position. The reason the SR hypothesis is attractive to those who do not believe in the BoM&#039;s divine origins is that it is remarkably sophisticated (in some ways and not others) for a young man who showed little evidence of precocious, if rough-hewn, ability before. Furthermore, the idea of relying on Brodie or Vogel for a definitive evisceration of the SR hypothesis is almost as funny as the satire. As an ardent student of Mormon history who associates a little with Mormon historians of much greater merit than myself, I am constantly struck by the amount of things left to discover and work through. Given this state of things, I am not so eager to join the mockers. I may not believe the SR hypothesis, but an eagerness to lampoon those who pursue it strikes me as odd. If anything, the work they are doing will ultimately be useful for decisively disconfirming it (as I think shall happen), but declaring victory now with such lusty derision? I won&#039;t join you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful satire that points up numerous points of inconsistency in the &#8220;Spalding-Rigdon&#8221; hypothesis for Book of Mormon authorship. At the same time, I am not so confident as many of my fellow hearty laughers that the matter is entirely settled in favor of their position. The reason the SR hypothesis is attractive to those who do not believe in the BoM&#8217;s divine origins is that it is remarkably sophisticated (in some ways and not others) for a young man who showed little evidence of precocious, if rough-hewn, ability before. Furthermore, the idea of relying on Brodie or Vogel for a definitive evisceration of the SR hypothesis is almost as funny as the satire. As an ardent student of Mormon history who associates a little with Mormon historians of much greater merit than myself, I am constantly struck by the amount of things left to discover and work through. Given this state of things, I am not so eager to join the mockers. I may not believe the SR hypothesis, but an eagerness to lampoon those who pursue it strikes me as odd. If anything, the work they are doing will ultimately be useful for decisively disconfirming it (as I think shall happen), but declaring victory now with such lusty derision? I won&#8217;t join you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;d better release you from the High Council.</description>
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		<title>By: Raymond Takashi Swenson</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-143912</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Takashi Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the speculation and fanciful narratives that his contemporaries created about Joseph Smith don&#039;t answer the basic question:  Anyone who had a creative imagination and an ambition to become powerful and wealthy on the American frontier could do so within the established structure of Protestant churches and politics.  Joseph&#039;s claims put him into a constant headwind against the entire religious establishment of his day, while he could have had their support if he had used his gifts to echo the conventional wisdom.   He could have had popularity, power and wealth without ever leaving western New York if he had pursued a religious career along conventional lines. 

In light of all of the details we know from his own correspondence and the records left by those who knew him intimately, I frankly don&#039;t see how a credible case can be made that Joseph was anything less than totally sincere in his actions.  

The second stream of evidence is the nature of the teachings he produced, which offer a coherent view of Christianity as a religion that was held among the earlier pre-Christian patriarchs and prophets and a strong message of love and self-sacrifice, the best exemplar of which was Joseph himself.  Beauty and grandeur come out of those writings, which surely reflect the character of the man who produced them.  

The presidential campaign of 2008 demonstrates how strong the motive is for people to attack someone who is perceived as being &quot;too good to be true&quot;.  Unwillingness to accept Joseph Smith as genuine stems from that same cynicism and the suspicion that someone with an attractive message and character is surely deceiving us.  It is a skepticism that is aimed at all Mormons generally, and which feeds off any story about a Mormon with feet of clay.  It accounts for the popularity of accounts like &quot;Under the Banner of Heaven&quot; and &quot;Mormonism Unveiled.&quot;  

Only those who are willing to suspend their cynicism can be bothered to look over the evidence that believers in the ancient origins of the Book of Mormon have gathered, that shows it has uncanny knowledge about mundane things like sacred records on metal plates, Hebrew literary forms, Egyptian personal names, olive culture, the nature of supervolcanoes, and the geography of Arabia that neither Smith, nor Rigdon, nor Spaulding could have known--all things which Smith and his fellow advocates of the book ever seemed to have noticed, and which their adversaries noted, if at all, as points of absurd deviation from the conventional wisdom of 1830.  The cynics seldom seem to reach the point of noticing these things, let alone explaining how they got into the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the speculation and fanciful narratives that his contemporaries created about Joseph Smith don&#8217;t answer the basic question:  Anyone who had a creative imagination and an ambition to become powerful and wealthy on the American frontier could do so within the established structure of Protestant churches and politics.  Joseph&#8217;s claims put him into a constant headwind against the entire religious establishment of his day, while he could have had their support if he had used his gifts to echo the conventional wisdom.   He could have had popularity, power and wealth without ever leaving western New York if he had pursued a religious career along conventional lines. </p>
<p>In light of all of the details we know from his own correspondence and the records left by those who knew him intimately, I frankly don&#8217;t see how a credible case can be made that Joseph was anything less than totally sincere in his actions.  </p>
<p>The second stream of evidence is the nature of the teachings he produced, which offer a coherent view of Christianity as a religion that was held among the earlier pre-Christian patriarchs and prophets and a strong message of love and self-sacrifice, the best exemplar of which was Joseph himself.  Beauty and grandeur come out of those writings, which surely reflect the character of the man who produced them.  </p>
<p>The presidential campaign of 2008 demonstrates how strong the motive is for people to attack someone who is perceived as being &#8220;too good to be true&#8221;.  Unwillingness to accept Joseph Smith as genuine stems from that same cynicism and the suspicion that someone with an attractive message and character is surely deceiving us.  It is a skepticism that is aimed at all Mormons generally, and which feeds off any story about a Mormon with feet of clay.  It accounts for the popularity of accounts like &#8220;Under the Banner of Heaven&#8221; and &#8220;Mormonism Unveiled.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Only those who are willing to suspend their cynicism can be bothered to look over the evidence that believers in the ancient origins of the Book of Mormon have gathered, that shows it has uncanny knowledge about mundane things like sacred records on metal plates, Hebrew literary forms, Egyptian personal names, olive culture, the nature of supervolcanoes, and the geography of Arabia that neither Smith, nor Rigdon, nor Spaulding could have known&#8211;all things which Smith and his fellow advocates of the book ever seemed to have noticed, and which their adversaries noted, if at all, as points of absurd deviation from the conventional wisdom of 1830.  The cynics seldom seem to reach the point of noticing these things, let alone explaining how they got into the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Englund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Englund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier in post #82, Art Vanick had said: &quot;Spalding is being confirmed in new ways besides just the Conneaut witnesses and the other &#039;typical proofs&#039;….There was also the testimony of George Wilber, next-door neighbor of Sidney Rigdon, who saw Sidney and Joseph together in Bainbridge, Ohio in 1827 for an extended period of time.&quot;

I had not heard of the so-called &quot;testimony&quot; of George Wilbur prior to now, and so I thought I would investigate it further. The testimony apparently comes to us secondhand (via a C.E. Henry), and about 60 years after the event in question. My research uncovered several fatal flaws--Rigdon was 100+ miles away from where Wilber claimed he was, and Joseph Smith was nearly 480 miles away. See for yourself: 

1. For Wilber&#039;s testimony, see here: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/OH/miscoh05.htm#031486

2. Compare it against the Rigdon Timeline (used by Vanick et. al. in their &quot;Spalding Enigma&quot;) and Smith timeline here: http://www.scn.org/~bp760/rtimeline.htm

For a critical analysis of other Spalding witnesses, please see here: http://www.scn.org/~bp760/visit.htm

And here: http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneaut.htm

And here: http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneautb.htm#7

Thanks, -Wade Englund-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier in post #82, Art Vanick had said: &#8220;Spalding is being confirmed in new ways besides just the Conneaut witnesses and the other &#8216;typical proofs&#8217;….There was also the testimony of George Wilber, next-door neighbor of Sidney Rigdon, who saw Sidney and Joseph together in Bainbridge, Ohio in 1827 for an extended period of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had not heard of the so-called &#8220;testimony&#8221; of George Wilbur prior to now, and so I thought I would investigate it further. The testimony apparently comes to us secondhand (via a C.E. Henry), and about 60 years after the event in question. My research uncovered several fatal flaws&#8211;Rigdon was 100+ miles away from where Wilber claimed he was, and Joseph Smith was nearly 480 miles away. See for yourself: </p>
<p>1. For Wilber&#8217;s testimony, see here: <a href="http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/OH/miscoh05.htm#031486" rel="nofollow">http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/OH/miscoh05.htm#031486</a></p>
<p>2. Compare it against the Rigdon Timeline (used by Vanick et. al. in their &#8220;Spalding Enigma&#8221;) and Smith timeline here: <a href="http://www.scn.org/~bp760/rtimeline.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scn.org/~bp760/rtimeline.htm</a></p>
<p>For a critical analysis of other Spalding witnesses, please see here: <a href="http://www.scn.org/~bp760/visit.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scn.org/~bp760/visit.htm</a></p>
<p>And here: <a href="http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneaut.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneaut.htm</a></p>
<p>And here: <a href="http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneautb.htm#7" rel="nofollow">http://www.scn.org/~bp760/conneautb.htm#7</a></p>
<p>Thanks, -Wade Englund-</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamer</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-143012</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art (82): It’s clearly not invariable, because I didn’t bring up Brodie at all.  Neal brought up Fawn Brodie.  (And before him: Ben, Alan H, and Bob.)  I only responded to Neal’s characterization of Brodie, and that was only because I disagreed for the reasons I mentioned to him.

As I suggest in my satirical essay, I don’t think Rigdon and Spaulding being in the same vicinity in Pittsburgh is meaningful.  There are all sorts of coincidences in history.  Just because that opportunity existed, we are still required to imagine motives for Rigdon to choose Joseph Smith to publish his purloined text, we must theorize secret meetings between them, and we must imagine at least two additional co-conspirators in Cowdery and Pratt.  Why not just imagine a secret trip of Joseph Smith to Pittsburgh, cutting the irrelevant Ridgon out of the loop and eliminating the need for Pratt?  It’s just as possible (and equally unlikely) as imagining secret trips of Rigdon to Palmyra or Joseph to Bainbridge, Ohio.  

I’m not suggesting that Hurlbut created the Spaulding theory.  He was apparently hunting it down, having heard rumors.  However, the Conneaut testimony all occurs after the witnesses have been exposed to the Book of Mormon.  Do you have any writings from any of the witnesses mentioning the names “Nephi” and “Lehi” that can be dated before the publication of the Book of Mormon?

PS: Let’s not paste in long texts.  I’m happy to engage in personal dialogue and I’m sure you’re quite capable of summarizing your points and evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art (82): It’s clearly not invariable, because I didn’t bring up Brodie at all.  Neal brought up Fawn Brodie.  (And before him: Ben, Alan H, and Bob.)  I only responded to Neal’s characterization of Brodie, and that was only because I disagreed for the reasons I mentioned to him.</p>
<p>As I suggest in my satirical essay, I don’t think Rigdon and Spaulding being in the same vicinity in Pittsburgh is meaningful.  There are all sorts of coincidences in history.  Just because that opportunity existed, we are still required to imagine motives for Rigdon to choose Joseph Smith to publish his purloined text, we must theorize secret meetings between them, and we must imagine at least two additional co-conspirators in Cowdery and Pratt.  Why not just imagine a secret trip of Joseph Smith to Pittsburgh, cutting the irrelevant Ridgon out of the loop and eliminating the need for Pratt?  It’s just as possible (and equally unlikely) as imagining secret trips of Rigdon to Palmyra or Joseph to Bainbridge, Ohio.  </p>
<p>I’m not suggesting that Hurlbut created the Spaulding theory.  He was apparently hunting it down, having heard rumors.  However, the Conneaut testimony all occurs after the witnesses have been exposed to the Book of Mormon.  Do you have any writings from any of the witnesses mentioning the names “Nephi” and “Lehi” that can be dated before the publication of the Book of Mormon?</p>
<p>PS: Let’s not paste in long texts.  I’m happy to engage in personal dialogue and I’m sure you’re quite capable of summarizing your points and evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81: I believe Bordie felt Joseph Smith wrote the BoM (?) A “ a pious fraud “, comes from Dan Vogel.  Joseph Smith&#039;s life ,” schizophrenic” from Jan Shipp. A “Rough Stone”, from Bushman. “No man knows my history”, from Smith himself. 
I don&#039;t believe any of these statements counts as anti-Mormon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81: I believe Bordie felt Joseph Smith wrote the BoM (?) A “ a pious fraud “, comes from Dan Vogel.  Joseph Smith&#8217;s life ,” schizophrenic” from Jan Shipp. A “Rough Stone”, from Bushman. “No man knows my history”, from Smith himself.<br />
I don&#8217;t believe any of these statements counts as anti-Mormon.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Vanick</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-143006</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Vanick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,
Invariably Fawn Brodie is invoked whenever Mormons or even Smith-authorship non-Mormons wish to dismiss what have come to be called the Spalding authorship claims, but in light of an ever increasing body of pro-Spalding evidence, those who continue to hide behind Brodie&#039;s skirt are painting themselves into a corner.  Spalding is being confirmed in new ways besides just the Conneaut witnesses and the other &quot;typical proofs&quot;.  Everything from Rigdon indeed being in Pittsburgh at the same time as Spalding, as evidenced by multiple newspaper &quot;mail waiting&quot; lists, to articles in other newspapers, like the Hudson Ohio Observer, which independently uphold the testimony of the Conneaut witnesses, as the newspaper article came out months before Howe&#039;s book, yet no witnesses ever made any comments that somehow they had words put into their mouths, or they were confused and didn&#039;t know what they were saying, or any of the other nonsense that critics of Spalding offer.  There was also the testimony of George Wilber, next-door neighbor of Sidney Rigdon, who saw Sidney and Joseph together in Bainbridge, Ohio in 1827 for an extended period of time.  I&#039;m enclosing the text of the Observer article in this post:

The Ohio Observer, Hudson, Portage Co., OH
Masthead of VIII:15 (12 June 1834) issue reads Ralph S Walker, proprietor; 
Bradstreet &amp; Walker, editors; James Hull, printer.

This issue contains an article called &quot;Mormonism No.4&quot; credited to &quot;From the 
Junior Editor.&quot; The article (image attached) contains an extremely important 
early, and independent, confirmation of the Conneaut witnesses, written by 
the paper&#039;s junior editor who personally visited Conneaut and spoke with at 
least two, and probably more, of Spalding&#039;s former neighbors. The junior 
editor of the Ohio Observer at the time was James Barr Walker, whose bio is 
given below.

This article is especially important due to the fact that it was written 
after Hurlbut&#039;s trial in April of 1834, and before the publication of Howe&#039;s 
book in November of that year. This material provides a strong refutation of 
Matthew Roper&#039;s (and FARMS&#039;) contention that the Conneaut witnesses had been 
coached by Hurlbut, and that he had inaccurately reported their testimony.

A trasncription of the article is as follows:

FROM THE JUNIOR EDITOR.
MORMONISM.
NO. 4. [conclusion]

I have gone somewhat into detail in relation to Mormonite miracles and 
gifts, for without these Mormonism is nothing. It is only by such peculiar 
manifestations that they suppose God is distinguishing the &quot;Latter Day 
Saints&quot; from &#039; the heathen that perish.&#039; I shall in this number make some 
allusion to the Mormon Book. The internal evidences of this production have 
been ably considered, I am informed, by Alexander Campbell, and have not 
long since been noticed in The Ohio Observer. I shall not perhaps allude to 
them, at length. The &quot;Book of Mormon&quot; -- not called Bible by them -- a 
copy-right of which is granted to Joseph Smith, Jr. as Author and 
proprietor, and which, in the language of the title page, is &quot;an account 
written by the hand of Mormon upon plates taken from the plates of Nephi,&quot; 
is said by them to have been found by Smith inscribed on golden plates, the 
place of the deposite being revealed to him by an angel. It is written in 
scripture language and contains copious extracts from the prophets and other 
sacred writings. It gives an account of the journeyings and voyage of a 
remnant of the Israelites to this Continent, and of their settlement, wars 
and political transactions for a long period afterwards. The Gospel is also 
found in it, written, as they say, in a &#039;plainer and more intelligible style 
than by the Evangelists.&#039; It must be conceded, I think, the the scope and 
plan of the work and of the system built upon it, exhibit some evident marks 
of design and forethought, at the same time that there are many and clear 
manifestations of human contrivance.

It may not be uninteresting to state a few things in relation to Smith, and 
glance at some of the circumstances which led him on to this imposture. All 
authentic accounts agree in these particulars: -- that Smith was an 
ignorant, superstitious and dishonest member of society while at home. He 
has no reluctance in confessing his former ignorance -- and says that he has 
been miraculously assisted in being able to read, having never learned at 
school. In this, however, he is contradicted by the sworn testimony of his 
former instructor. That he is still superstitious, is shown by his keeping a 
horse-shoe nailed to the lintel of his door, until quite recently at least 
-- and by other conduct equally absurd. He was in the habit of telling 
people&#039;s fortunes, digging for money, and telling persons where treasures 
were hid. He is accused of such disgraceful acts as robbing his neighbors&#039; 
hen-roosts, and other petty acts of theft. But the testimony in regard to 
such points will be found in the publication alluded to in my first number. 
One incident I will mention, which serves both to show the superstition of 
his family, and how much he had to encourage him in the bold measures which 
he has since adopted. When 15 or 16 years old, he returned one day from the 
field with some shining sand, done up in his working frock. He told the 
family as he passed through the room, that he had found the golden Bible; 
referring to a story then in circulation, that such a Bible had been found 
in Canada. The family, then at supper, were anxious to see it; but he told 
them that he had a commandment forbidding it -- and that no one could see 
the golden Bible and live; and immediately locked up the sand in his chest. 
After supper he brought it out, for the purpose of showing how he had 
&#039;fooled&#039; them. But all ran out of the house in great fright, fearing the 
consequences of seeing the Bible. The next day or two he called on a 
mechanic, told him how he had deceived his kinsmen, and requested him to 
make a box for the sand -- adding, that &#039;he meant to see what d____d fools 
he could make of the folks,&#039; The plan got out, and nothing was done. But it 
seems that from this time he was satisfied what kind of materials he had to 
work upon in the community arround him; and not long after he indeed, as he 
said, found the bible, or the golden plates. His pretence passed off well -- 
and after raising expectations, he must of course bring something to pass.

To gain time for inventing some scheme, he pretended that he was prevented 
from getting hold of the plates by Divine interposirion. In this time 
accomplices were found, who would help him on his project. The offspring of 
their secret consultations, was the Book of Mormon.

A short digression will here be necessary for tracing out more particularly 
the true origin of this book. -- Some years ago there was a clergyman by the 
name of Solomon Spaulding, in the township of Salem in the North-Eastern 
part of this State, who wrote much, for his own diversion, about the origin 
of the Aborigines of this country -- he believed them to be the Ten Tribes 
-- adopting fictitious names, and giving his writings the shape of a 
history. A short time previous to his death, being in straitened 
circumstances, he determined to have his manuscripts published, and took 
them to Pittsburgh for that purpose, where he died. The manuscripts fell 
into the hands of his relatives, it is supposed, some of whom live near 
Palmyra, Smith&#039;s former residence. Though this cannot now be obtained, there 
are several persons in Salem, now Conneaut, who have seen it, and recollect 
distinctly the character of the fiction. They were intimate with Mr. 
Spalding, and used frequently to converse familiarly about his story, and to 
read it, or hear it read to them. One man with whom I conversed, said he 
recollected the names of the characters and places, and that in general they 
remained the same in the Book of Mormon, as in the manuscript of Spaulding. 
He feels not the least hesitation in testifying to this, and to the identity 
of the works so far as relates to the narrative, or historical part. Indeed 
the resemblance is so striking, that it was detected the first evening the 
Mormonites preached in that place, merely from the passages read in the Book 
during service. There is all the certainty on the subject, in the minds of 
those who have seen the manuscript, that could be felt in any case, unless 
the two books could be laid side by side and compared. One man especially, 
by the name of Miller, who worked for Mr. Spalding several weeks, perhaps 
months, states that the manuscript lay on a shelf in the room where he 
slept, and that he spent many of his leisure hours in reading it, so long as 
he worked at the house.

These particulars will be stated at length, and in the form of written 
testimony over responsible names, in the work to which I have already 
referred [i.e. Howe&#039;s forthcoming book], which it is not doubted will 
contain a full exposure of this gross imposture.
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BIOGRAPHY OF James Barr Walker

WALKER, James Barr, clergyman, born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 July, 
1805; died in Wheaten, Illinois, 6 March, 1887. His father died when the son 
was a child, and he and his widowed mother resided near Pittsburg, where 
James worked in a factory, was errand-boy in a country store, and then 
labored four years in a printing-office. At the age of twenty he walked to 
New York, where he became clerk in the office of Mordecai M. Noah, and he 
was afterward a teacher in New Durham, New Jersey He then studied law in 
Ravenna, Ohio, was graduated at Western Reserve college in 1831, and then 
edited successively the &quot;Ohio Observer&quot; at Hudson, the &quot; Watchman of the 
Valley&quot; at Cincinnati, and the &quot;Watchman of the Prairies&quot; at Chicago (now 
the &quot;Advance &quot;)--all religious newspapers. He also engaged in the 
publication and sale of books, but abandoned it for the ministry, and in 
1841 was licensed to preach by the presbytery of Chicago. He then resided in 
Mansfield, Ohio, where he established a private asylum for orphans, and he 
was for some time acting pastor of a church in Sandusky. He was lecturer on 
the harmony between science and revealed religion at Oberlin college and 
Chicago theological seminary. Western Reserve college gave him the degree of 
D.D. Dr. Walker was the author of &quot;The Philosophy of the Plan of Salvation,&quot; 
published anonymously under the editorship of Professor Calvin E. Stowe 
(Boston, 1855), which went through several editions in England, and has been 
translated into five foreign languages, including Hindustanee; &quot;God revealed 
in Nature and in Christ,&quot; in opposition to theories of development (1855); 
&quot;Philosophy of Scepticism and Ultraism&quot; (1857) ; &quot;Philosophy of the Divine 
Operation in the Redemption of Man&quot; (London, 1862); &quot;Poems&quot; (1862) ; &quot;Living 
Questions of the Age&quot; (Chicago, 1869); and &quot;Doctrine of the Holy Spirit&quot; 
(1870).

Among J.B. Walker&#039;s other works is: Walker, James Barr, Experiences of 
Pioneer Life in the Early Settlements and Cities of the West, (Chicago: 
Sumner &amp; Co, 1881). Subj: History of the Ohio River Valley. I examined this 
volume at Heinz History Center on 07-0502. P.50 mentions Walker was 
apprenticed to Eichbaum &amp; Johnston in Pittsburgh from aprox. 1820-26. 
Unfortunately, the only mention of Mormonism is pp.99-105, and this is 
mostly anout Eliza Snow, whom Walker had known and with whom he had 
exchanged poetry prior to her having become a Mormon. I copied pp.99-105, 
but not p.50.

Apparently the Ralph S. Walker named as editor on the newspaper&#039;s masthead, 
was James Barr Walker&#039;s cousin. The Bradstreet involved was Stephen Ingram 
Bradstreet (1794-1837), who was a close associate of Cleveland printer Ziba 
Willes. Willes (or Willis, 1795-1830) was E.D. Howe&#039;s partner in the 
founding of the Cleaveland Herald in 1819. When Howe went to Painesville to 
start the Telegraph in 1821, he sold his interest in the Herald to Willes, 
who continued to edit it until 1826 when he &quot;withdrew,&quot; either due to 
illness or to his anti-Masonic sympathies, and turned the paper over to 
Jewett Paine (or Prime). Paine, in turn, was succeeded, in 1828, by John R. 
St. John who remained until 1832. Bradstreet&#039;s close friend, John W. Willey, 
was the first mayor of Cleveland. Willey&#039;s sister, Fanny, was married to 
Luther Willes (1789-1833), brother of Ziba Willes and also a printer and 
partner in the same establishment. It was probably through the Willey-Willes 
connection that Bradstreet and the Walkers came to know Eber Howe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,<br />
Invariably Fawn Brodie is invoked whenever Mormons or even Smith-authorship non-Mormons wish to dismiss what have come to be called the Spalding authorship claims, but in light of an ever increasing body of pro-Spalding evidence, those who continue to hide behind Brodie&#8217;s skirt are painting themselves into a corner.  Spalding is being confirmed in new ways besides just the Conneaut witnesses and the other &#8220;typical proofs&#8221;.  Everything from Rigdon indeed being in Pittsburgh at the same time as Spalding, as evidenced by multiple newspaper &#8220;mail waiting&#8221; lists, to articles in other newspapers, like the Hudson Ohio Observer, which independently uphold the testimony of the Conneaut witnesses, as the newspaper article came out months before Howe&#8217;s book, yet no witnesses ever made any comments that somehow they had words put into their mouths, or they were confused and didn&#8217;t know what they were saying, or any of the other nonsense that critics of Spalding offer.  There was also the testimony of George Wilber, next-door neighbor of Sidney Rigdon, who saw Sidney and Joseph together in Bainbridge, Ohio in 1827 for an extended period of time.  I&#8217;m enclosing the text of the Observer article in this post:</p>
<p>The Ohio Observer, Hudson, Portage Co., OH<br />
Masthead of VIII:15 (12 June 1834) issue reads Ralph S Walker, proprietor;<br />
Bradstreet &amp; Walker, editors; James Hull, printer.</p>
<p>This issue contains an article called &#8220;Mormonism No.4&#8243; credited to &#8220;From the<br />
Junior Editor.&#8221; The article (image attached) contains an extremely important<br />
early, and independent, confirmation of the Conneaut witnesses, written by<br />
the paper&#8217;s junior editor who personally visited Conneaut and spoke with at<br />
least two, and probably more, of Spalding&#8217;s former neighbors. The junior<br />
editor of the Ohio Observer at the time was James Barr Walker, whose bio is<br />
given below.</p>
<p>This article is especially important due to the fact that it was written<br />
after Hurlbut&#8217;s trial in April of 1834, and before the publication of Howe&#8217;s<br />
book in November of that year. This material provides a strong refutation of<br />
Matthew Roper&#8217;s (and FARMS&#8217;) contention that the Conneaut witnesses had been<br />
coached by Hurlbut, and that he had inaccurately reported their testimony.</p>
<p>A trasncription of the article is as follows:</p>
<p>FROM THE JUNIOR EDITOR.<br />
MORMONISM.<br />
NO. 4. [conclusion]</p>
<p>I have gone somewhat into detail in relation to Mormonite miracles and<br />
gifts, for without these Mormonism is nothing. It is only by such peculiar<br />
manifestations that they suppose God is distinguishing the &#8220;Latter Day<br />
Saints&#8221; from &#8216; the heathen that perish.&#8217; I shall in this number make some<br />
allusion to the Mormon Book. The internal evidences of this production have<br />
been ably considered, I am informed, by Alexander Campbell, and have not<br />
long since been noticed in The Ohio Observer. I shall not perhaps allude to<br />
them, at length. The &#8220;Book of Mormon&#8221; &#8212; not called Bible by them &#8212; a<br />
copy-right of which is granted to Joseph Smith, Jr. as Author and<br />
proprietor, and which, in the language of the title page, is &#8220;an account<br />
written by the hand of Mormon upon plates taken from the plates of Nephi,&#8221;<br />
is said by them to have been found by Smith inscribed on golden plates, the<br />
place of the deposite being revealed to him by an angel. It is written in<br />
scripture language and contains copious extracts from the prophets and other<br />
sacred writings. It gives an account of the journeyings and voyage of a<br />
remnant of the Israelites to this Continent, and of their settlement, wars<br />
and political transactions for a long period afterwards. The Gospel is also<br />
found in it, written, as they say, in a &#8216;plainer and more intelligible style<br />
than by the Evangelists.&#8217; It must be conceded, I think, the the scope and<br />
plan of the work and of the system built upon it, exhibit some evident marks<br />
of design and forethought, at the same time that there are many and clear<br />
manifestations of human contrivance.</p>
<p>It may not be uninteresting to state a few things in relation to Smith, and<br />
glance at some of the circumstances which led him on to this imposture. All<br />
authentic accounts agree in these particulars: &#8212; that Smith was an<br />
ignorant, superstitious and dishonest member of society while at home. He<br />
has no reluctance in confessing his former ignorance &#8212; and says that he has<br />
been miraculously assisted in being able to read, having never learned at<br />
school. In this, however, he is contradicted by the sworn testimony of his<br />
former instructor. That he is still superstitious, is shown by his keeping a<br />
horse-shoe nailed to the lintel of his door, until quite recently at least<br />
&#8211; and by other conduct equally absurd. He was in the habit of telling<br />
people&#8217;s fortunes, digging for money, and telling persons where treasures<br />
were hid. He is accused of such disgraceful acts as robbing his neighbors&#8217;<br />
hen-roosts, and other petty acts of theft. But the testimony in regard to<br />
such points will be found in the publication alluded to in my first number.<br />
One incident I will mention, which serves both to show the superstition of<br />
his family, and how much he had to encourage him in the bold measures which<br />
he has since adopted. When 15 or 16 years old, he returned one day from the<br />
field with some shining sand, done up in his working frock. He told the<br />
family as he passed through the room, that he had found the golden Bible;<br />
referring to a story then in circulation, that such a Bible had been found<br />
in Canada. The family, then at supper, were anxious to see it; but he told<br />
them that he had a commandment forbidding it &#8212; and that no one could see<br />
the golden Bible and live; and immediately locked up the sand in his chest.<br />
After supper he brought it out, for the purpose of showing how he had<br />
&#8216;fooled&#8217; them. But all ran out of the house in great fright, fearing the<br />
consequences of seeing the Bible. The next day or two he called on a<br />
mechanic, told him how he had deceived his kinsmen, and requested him to<br />
make a box for the sand &#8212; adding, that &#8216;he meant to see what d____d fools<br />
he could make of the folks,&#8217; The plan got out, and nothing was done. But it<br />
seems that from this time he was satisfied what kind of materials he had to<br />
work upon in the community arround him; and not long after he indeed, as he<br />
said, found the bible, or the golden plates. His pretence passed off well &#8212;<br />
and after raising expectations, he must of course bring something to pass.</p>
<p>To gain time for inventing some scheme, he pretended that he was prevented<br />
from getting hold of the plates by Divine interposirion. In this time<br />
accomplices were found, who would help him on his project. The offspring of<br />
their secret consultations, was the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>A short digression will here be necessary for tracing out more particularly<br />
the true origin of this book. &#8212; Some years ago there was a clergyman by the<br />
name of Solomon Spaulding, in the township of Salem in the North-Eastern<br />
part of this State, who wrote much, for his own diversion, about the origin<br />
of the Aborigines of this country &#8212; he believed them to be the Ten Tribes<br />
&#8211; adopting fictitious names, and giving his writings the shape of a<br />
history. A short time previous to his death, being in straitened<br />
circumstances, he determined to have his manuscripts published, and took<br />
them to Pittsburgh for that purpose, where he died. The manuscripts fell<br />
into the hands of his relatives, it is supposed, some of whom live near<br />
Palmyra, Smith&#8217;s former residence. Though this cannot now be obtained, there<br />
are several persons in Salem, now Conneaut, who have seen it, and recollect<br />
distinctly the character of the fiction. They were intimate with Mr.<br />
Spalding, and used frequently to converse familiarly about his story, and to<br />
read it, or hear it read to them. One man with whom I conversed, said he<br />
recollected the names of the characters and places, and that in general they<br />
remained the same in the Book of Mormon, as in the manuscript of Spaulding.<br />
He feels not the least hesitation in testifying to this, and to the identity<br />
of the works so far as relates to the narrative, or historical part. Indeed<br />
the resemblance is so striking, that it was detected the first evening the<br />
Mormonites preached in that place, merely from the passages read in the Book<br />
during service. There is all the certainty on the subject, in the minds of<br />
those who have seen the manuscript, that could be felt in any case, unless<br />
the two books could be laid side by side and compared. One man especially,<br />
by the name of Miller, who worked for Mr. Spalding several weeks, perhaps<br />
months, states that the manuscript lay on a shelf in the room where he<br />
slept, and that he spent many of his leisure hours in reading it, so long as<br />
he worked at the house.</p>
<p>These particulars will be stated at length, and in the form of written<br />
testimony over responsible names, in the work to which I have already<br />
referred [i.e. Howe's forthcoming book], which it is not doubted will<br />
contain a full exposure of this gross imposture.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>BIOGRAPHY OF James Barr Walker</p>
<p>WALKER, James Barr, clergyman, born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 July,<br />
1805; died in Wheaten, Illinois, 6 March, 1887. His father died when the son<br />
was a child, and he and his widowed mother resided near Pittsburg, where<br />
James worked in a factory, was errand-boy in a country store, and then<br />
labored four years in a printing-office. At the age of twenty he walked to<br />
New York, where he became clerk in the office of Mordecai M. Noah, and he<br />
was afterward a teacher in New Durham, New Jersey He then studied law in<br />
Ravenna, Ohio, was graduated at Western Reserve college in 1831, and then<br />
edited successively the &#8220;Ohio Observer&#8221; at Hudson, the &#8221; Watchman of the<br />
Valley&#8221; at Cincinnati, and the &#8220;Watchman of the Prairies&#8221; at Chicago (now<br />
the &#8220;Advance &#8220;)&#8211;all religious newspapers. He also engaged in the<br />
publication and sale of books, but abandoned it for the ministry, and in<br />
1841 was licensed to preach by the presbytery of Chicago. He then resided in<br />
Mansfield, Ohio, where he established a private asylum for orphans, and he<br />
was for some time acting pastor of a church in Sandusky. He was lecturer on<br />
the harmony between science and revealed religion at Oberlin college and<br />
Chicago theological seminary. Western Reserve college gave him the degree of<br />
D.D. Dr. Walker was the author of &#8220;The Philosophy of the Plan of Salvation,&#8221;<br />
published anonymously under the editorship of Professor Calvin E. Stowe<br />
(Boston, 1855), which went through several editions in England, and has been<br />
translated into five foreign languages, including Hindustanee; &#8220;God revealed<br />
in Nature and in Christ,&#8221; in opposition to theories of development (1855);<br />
&#8220;Philosophy of Scepticism and Ultraism&#8221; (1857) ; &#8220;Philosophy of the Divine<br />
Operation in the Redemption of Man&#8221; (London, 1862); &#8220;Poems&#8221; (1862) ; &#8220;Living<br />
Questions of the Age&#8221; (Chicago, 1869); and &#8220;Doctrine of the Holy Spirit&#8221;<br />
(1870).</p>
<p>Among J.B. Walker&#8217;s other works is: Walker, James Barr, Experiences of<br />
Pioneer Life in the Early Settlements and Cities of the West, (Chicago:<br />
Sumner &amp; Co, 1881). Subj: History of the Ohio River Valley. I examined this<br />
volume at Heinz History Center on 07-0502. P.50 mentions Walker was<br />
apprenticed to Eichbaum &amp; Johnston in Pittsburgh from aprox. 1820-26.<br />
Unfortunately, the only mention of Mormonism is pp.99-105, and this is<br />
mostly anout Eliza Snow, whom Walker had known and with whom he had<br />
exchanged poetry prior to her having become a Mormon. I copied pp.99-105,<br />
but not p.50.</p>
<p>Apparently the Ralph S. Walker named as editor on the newspaper&#8217;s masthead,<br />
was James Barr Walker&#8217;s cousin. The Bradstreet involved was Stephen Ingram<br />
Bradstreet (1794-1837), who was a close associate of Cleveland printer Ziba<br />
Willes. Willes (or Willis, 1795-1830) was E.D. Howe&#8217;s partner in the<br />
founding of the Cleaveland Herald in 1819. When Howe went to Painesville to<br />
start the Telegraph in 1821, he sold his interest in the Herald to Willes,<br />
who continued to edit it until 1826 when he &#8220;withdrew,&#8221; either due to<br />
illness or to his anti-Masonic sympathies, and turned the paper over to<br />
Jewett Paine (or Prime). Paine, in turn, was succeeded, in 1828, by John R.<br />
St. John who remained until 1832. Bradstreet&#8217;s close friend, John W. Willey,<br />
was the first mayor of Cleveland. Willey&#8217;s sister, Fanny, was married to<br />
Luther Willes (1789-1833), brother of Ziba Willes and also a printer and<br />
partner in the same establishment. It was probably through the Willey-Willes<br />
connection that Bradstreet and the Walkers came to know Eber Howe.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamer</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-142992</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal (80):  Rolling up Fawn Brodie and Philastus Hurlbut together into a sloppy category of “anti-Mormon” isn’t particularly helpful.  Brodie, of course, utterly rejected the Spaulding theory.  Also, it should be noted that having approached the question in a non-devotional way, Brodie stands at the head of our present historiographical understanding that discounts the Spaulding theory.  (This is the one question on which all historians who are practicing Mormons inevitably invoke Brodie.)

Hurlbut was neither a historian nor a biographer; he was a guy who collected affidavits, looking specifically for negative witnesses.  However, even in his case, we should be careful to note that his interviews in Palmyra (as opposed to Conneat), are extremely valuable for our understanding of Joseph Smith’s early life.  Like everything, they need to be read for what they are. (In the same way that we have to read George A. Smith’s remarks about Thomas B. Marsh in their context).

The “con-man,” like any archetype, is just an archetype.  As far as I recall, Brodie does not invoke that archetype.  Her account may not be sympathetic to a traditional LDS understanding of Joseph, but it remains a generally sympathetic account of him as a person, which gives her explanation of how a person (who had been a treasurer seeker) evolved into a religious leader --- without falling back on reductionist tropes such as “it was all just a con.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal (80):  Rolling up Fawn Brodie and Philastus Hurlbut together into a sloppy category of “anti-Mormon” isn’t particularly helpful.  Brodie, of course, utterly rejected the Spaulding theory.  Also, it should be noted that having approached the question in a non-devotional way, Brodie stands at the head of our present historiographical understanding that discounts the Spaulding theory.  (This is the one question on which all historians who are practicing Mormons inevitably invoke Brodie.)</p>
<p>Hurlbut was neither a historian nor a biographer; he was a guy who collected affidavits, looking specifically for negative witnesses.  However, even in his case, we should be careful to note that his interviews in Palmyra (as opposed to Conneat), are extremely valuable for our understanding of Joseph Smith’s early life.  Like everything, they need to be read for what they are. (In the same way that we have to read George A. Smith’s remarks about Thomas B. Marsh in their context).</p>
<p>The “con-man,” like any archetype, is just an archetype.  As far as I recall, Brodie does not invoke that archetype.  Her account may not be sympathetic to a traditional LDS understanding of Joseph, but it remains a generally sympathetic account of him as a person, which gives her explanation of how a person (who had been a treasurer seeker) evolved into a religious leader &#8212; without falling back on reductionist tropes such as “it was all just a con.”</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Kramer</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/18/the-spaulding-fable/#comment-142987</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add a tidbit.

As I read American literature, I am regularly surprised by the common appearance of a staple of American type: the con-man.

The con-man is charismatic, handsome, intelligent, lazy, clever, crafty, and a treasure-hunter.  He is also a stereotype.  His adventures when taken together add up to both the American dream and the fear it generates.  He suggests that the dream is a con, a big one.  It promises riches for every gold-rusher.  It also promises that a sucker is born every minute.

The con-man is someone to be feared and someone to be admired.  He is Flem Snopes and Tom Sawyer.

This narrative is as old as America itself.  Trading beads for land with the Indians.  Making treaties never to be kept.

I submit that the anti-Mormon exploitation of the narrative of the con-man, exhibited with great facility by Hurlbut and Brodie in describing Joseph Smith, is what drives much doubt about the prophet and the Book of Mormon.  It&#039;s as American as apple pie.

Just a thought . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add a tidbit.</p>
<p>As I read American literature, I am regularly surprised by the common appearance of a staple of American type: the con-man.</p>
<p>The con-man is charismatic, handsome, intelligent, lazy, clever, crafty, and a treasure-hunter.  He is also a stereotype.  His adventures when taken together add up to both the American dream and the fear it generates.  He suggests that the dream is a con, a big one.  It promises riches for every gold-rusher.  It also promises that a sucker is born every minute.</p>
<p>The con-man is someone to be feared and someone to be admired.  He is Flem Snopes and Tom Sawyer.</p>
<p>This narrative is as old as America itself.  Trading beads for land with the Indians.  Making treaties never to be kept.</p>
<p>I submit that the anti-Mormon exploitation of the narrative of the con-man, exhibited with great facility by Hurlbut and Brodie in describing Joseph Smith, is what drives much doubt about the prophet and the Book of Mormon.  It&#8217;s as American as apple pie.</p>
<p>Just a thought . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe it was a pious fraud with the most righteous of intentions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, well that&#039;s much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe it was a pious fraud with the most righteous of intentions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, well that&#8217;s much better.</p>
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